How many American Records have been set when not winning?

Rupp's 10000 AR was a win at Prefontaine.

ekw wrote:

nerdy virgin xc runner wrote:

You usually PR when you're busting your balls trying to catch up to better people, so it makes sense that the ARs are the same.

I though that too. Too bad that only seems to be an American mentality, eh? As an American we only try hard when someone else is beating us. As an American we only are motivated to do better when there is a carrot on a stick. What ever happened to trying harder just to better ourselves without the involvement of another person?

A related question: How many current WRs were set without a rabbit, "without the involvement of another person?" The truth is, people seldom run PRs in races they win, and people even less often set PRs in races they lead wire to wire. Part of what makes Rudisha's London 800m OLY win so extraordinary. A wire-to-wire WR in a race that is seldom won by anyone who led at 400m, or even 600m.

michael t smith wrote:

ekw wrote:

I though that too. Too bad that only seems to be an American mentality, eh? As an American we only try hard when someone else is beating us. As an American we only are motivated to do better when there is a carrot on a stick. What ever happened to trying harder just to better ourselves without the involvement of another person?

A related question: How many current WRs were set without a rabbit, "without the involvement of another person?" The truth is, people seldom run PRs in races they win, and people even less often set PRs in races they lead wire to wire. Part of what makes Rudisha's London 800m OLY win so extraordinary. A wire-to-wire WR in a race that is seldom won by anyone who led at 400m, or even 600m.

100,200,400, and all the field events on both the mens and womens side.

MEN'S OUTDOOR LEGAL MARKS : 100 M: Tyson Gay's 9.69 was winning effort in Shanghai in 2009. 200 M: Michael Johnson's 19.32 was winning effort in Atlanta in 1996. 400 M: Michael Johnson's 43.18 was winning effort in Sevilla in 1999. 800 M: Johnny Gray's 1:42.80 was winning effort in New Orleans in 1992. 1500 M: Bernard Lagat's 3:29.30 was winning effort in Rieti in 2005. Mile: Alan Webb's 3:46.91 was winning effort in Brasschaat in 2007. 3000 M: BERNARD LAGAT'S 7:29:00 WAS NOT WINNING EFFORT IN RIETI IN 2010. HE WAS 2ND BEHIND TARIKU BEKELE. 5000 M: BERNARD LAGAT'S 12:53.60 WAS NOT WINNING EFFORT IN MONACO IN 2011. HE WAS 2ND BEHIND MO FARAH. 10000 M. Galen Rupp's 26:44.36 was winning effort in Euegene in 2014. Half-Marathon: Ryan Hall's 59:43 was winning effort in Houston in 2007. Marathon: RYAN HALL'S 2:04:58 WAS NOT WINNING EFFORT IN BOSTON IN 2011. HE WAS FOURTH BEHIND GEOFFREY MUTAI, MOSES MOSOP, AND GEB GEBREMARIAM. But Khalid Khannouchi's 2:05:39 was a winning effort in London in 2002.

Hall's Boston time is not an AR

baconheart wrote:

current

mens outdoor on 800-2nd,5000-2nd marathon-4th steeple-2nd

bob Kennedy's AR was an 8th place performance ARs

The American record for the men's marathon was a winning effort. Deena Kastor's American record for the women's marathon was also a winning effort.

Teg took 3rd to Mottram and T. Bekele in his 2 mile AR

millennial runner wrote:

Winning is overrated.

Winning is not overrated.

No one has mentioned Evan Jaeger's 3000m Steeplechase AR at the Olympics where he won Silver

Zay wrote:

No one has mentioned Evan Jaeger's 3000m Steeplechase AR at the Olympics where he won Silver

Evan's American Record was not set in Rio, but in Paris in 2015 and he came in second behind Jairus Birech

The Insider wrote:

Rupp's 10000 AR was a win at Prefontaine.

That was his second AR at 10000m.

In 2011 Rupp ran 26:48.00AR at Diamond League Brussels and finished 3rd.

stateroftheoblivious wrote:

The Insider wrote:

Rupp's 10000 AR was a win at Prefontaine.

That was his second AR at 10000m.

In 2011 Rupp ran 26:48.00AR at Diamond League Brussels and finished 3rd.

So, 26:48:00 is NOT the AR.