I think she stepped on the line a few times, ESPN showed like a zillion replays of it during the 5ks, I think it's bs though, if she didn't obstruct anyone or go over the line she gained nothing and took away nothing from the race by stepping on the line.
Yes, it wasn't inward, therefore it's still a record of some type. She better get her lawyer on it.
Next up, FloJo's pharmaceutical rep, or Schipper's.
She absolutely did step inward and is justifiably disqualified. The violation has nothing to do with her stepping on the outside of the line on the first straightaway. As they eventually clearly showed, she stepped on the inside line coming around the first curve towards the beginning of the race. It is a clear disqualification.
My Own Private Idaho wrote:
That was NOT a lane violation per NCAA Track and Field Rulebook:
SECTION 4. Legal Running
Legal Running in Lanes
ARTICLE 1. In all races run in lanes, each competitor shall keep within their assigned lane from start to finish. However, without material advantage gained and no other runner being obstructed, a competitor may run outside their assigned lane in the straightaway or outside the outer line of their lane on a curve.
She stepped on the line on the inside of her lane on the curve clearly at least once. She was appropriately DQd.
Once again, undoubtedly let by the unknowing Brojos, this cesspool of misinformation they run is wrong.
Steve on a cell in Brooklyn wrote:
My Own Private Idaho wrote:That was NOT a lane violation per NCAA Track and Field Rulebook:
SECTION 4. Legal Running
Legal Running in Lanes
ARTICLE 1. In all races run in lanes, each competitor shall keep within their assigned lane from start to finish. However, without material advantage gained and no other runner being obstructed, a competitor may run outside their assigned lane in the straightaway or outside the outer line of their lane on a curve.
She stepped on the line on the inside of her lane on the curve clearly at least once. She was appropriately DQd.
Once again, undoubtedly let by the unknowing Brojos, this cesspool of misinformation they run is wrong.
It's undebatable that the time shouldn't count for a record, but I feel like she should be allowed in the final based on the fact that it's beyond obvious she deserves to be and didn't impede anyone.
Damn shame. When I saw it live I was like holy crap she's all over the inside and outside.
Mrr82 wrote:
It's undebatable that the time shouldn't count for a record, but I feel like she should be allowed in the final based on the fact that it's beyond obvious she deserves to be and didn't impede anyone.
Damn shame. When I saw it live I was like holy crap she's all over the inside and outside.
What's undebatable is that she stepped on the inside line of her lane which is a clear DQ. There's no "allowing" around that.
I don't know what race some of you were watching but she clearly stepped on the line twice coming out of the first turn and twice going into the second turn. I do believe this is an advantage as in the end the trajectory she ran was a "short" 200.
YMMV wrote:
She is obviously inexperienced with banked indoor tracks, which makes her time all the more impressive. She will be massive outdoors.
She is not inexperienced with banked indoor tracks. She competed and trained on the armory track in New York City for four years.
She stepped on the inside line. That means disqualification. People who are disqualified don't advance. End of story.
And, as someone pointed out above: she did not "break" an American record; she bettered the American-record time, but did not do so legally.
[Okay, one small caveat: had she somehow been *pushed* onto the inside line of her lane--say that someone in an outside lane had taken a bizarre fall--it's possible that she could advance to the next round. It's even possible, though less likely, that the time she ran would be accorded new-record status. (Officials always have the option to make calls based on "fairness.")
[But the chances of a freak-fall scenario like that are pretty slim.]
Ultrahype wrote:
I don't know what race some of you were watching but she clearly stepped on the line twice coming out of the first turn and twice going into the second turn. I do believe this is an advantage as in the end the trajectory she ran was a "short" 200.
Someone is batshit stupid....no one is suggesting it's not an advantage. It however had nothing to do with her qualifying as could have run an extra 5 meters and still made it.
Did another school protest? Just wondering.
Gator Bait wrote:
Did another school protest? Just wondering.
No, it was the LRC police that notified the NCAA and got her DQ'd.
Mrr82 wrote:
Steve on a cell in Brooklyn wrote:She stepped on the line on the inside of her lane on the curve clearly at least once. She was appropriately DQd.
Once again, undoubtedly let by the unknowing Brojos, this cesspool of misinformation they run is wrong.
It's undebatable that the time shouldn't count for a record, but I feel like she should be allowed in the final based on the fact that it's beyond obvious she deserves to be and didn't impede anyone.
Damn shame. When I saw it live I was like holy crap she's all over the inside and outside.
I feel she should also be awarded a semi-final finisher's medal.
Stupid? So if you run on the lane line but win by enough you should still qualify as the advantage didn't really matter? GTFOH
Runner35824 wrote:
This is total b.s.. If this is the d.q. pic. She stepped on the outside line and is d.q.ed. unless i am mistaken you have to take two steps out of lane to be d.q.ed. onestep on outside line is to no disadvantage and should not be a d.q.
Not BS at all. Her entire right foot is the next lane. If the runner in that lane was closer she would have been spiked. Not good. Definite DQ.
Left Foot Out wrote:
Runner35824 wrote:This is total b.s.. If this is the d.q. pic. She stepped on the outside line and is d.q.ed. unless i am mistaken you have to take two steps out of lane to be d.q.ed. onestep on outside line is to no disadvantage and should not be a d.q.
Not BS at all. Her entire right foot is the next lane. If the runner in that lane was closer she would have been spiked. Not good. Definite DQ.
Wrong photo. She was disqualified for stepping on the *inner* line while on the curve(s). A very straightforward DQ.
lease wrote:
She stepped on the inside line. That means disqualification. People who are disqualified don't advance. End of story.
And, as someone pointed out above: she did not "break" an American record; she bettered the American-record time, but did not do so legally.
[Okay, one small caveat: had she somehow been *pushed* onto the inside line of her lane--say that someone in an outside lane had taken a bizarre fall--it's possible that she could advance to the next round. It's even possible, though less likely, that the time she ran would be accorded new-record status. (Officials always have the option to make calls based on "fairness.")
[But the chances of a freak-fall scenario like that are pretty slim.]
There should be exceptions in cases like this. If the purpose of heats is to have the best women advance, she should be allowed in. Some people take the rules a little to much at face value, like when they dq'd a girl in the 3 or 5k for a false start. Some level of common sense needs to be applied in some cases. I get "rules are rules" but that isn't what the sport is about. People should understand why the rules are there and DQ people when there is good reason, not just because that's what is written down in the rulebook.
Runner85 wrote:
lease wrote:She stepped on the inside line. That means disqualification. People who are disqualified don't advance. End of story.
And, as someone pointed out above: she did not "break" an American record; she bettered the American-record time, but did not do so legally.
[Okay, one small caveat: had she somehow been *pushed* onto the inside line of her lane--say that someone in an outside lane had taken a bizarre fall--it's possible that she could advance to the next round. It's even possible, though less likely, that the time she ran would be accorded new-record status. (Officials always have the option to make calls based on "fairness.")
[But the chances of a freak-fall scenario like that are pretty slim.]
There should be exceptions in cases like this. If the purpose of heats is to have the best women advance, she should be allowed in. Some people take the rules a little to much at face value, like when they dq'd a girl in the 3 or 5k for a false start. Some level of common sense needs to be applied in some cases. I get "rules are rules" but that isn't what the sport is about. People should understand why the rules are there and DQ people when there is good reason, not just because that's what is written down in the rulebook.
So you just want to pick and choose which rules apply to other people. Got it. Typical millennial attitude.
Why do you think your interpretation should apply? Why not some guy standing next to you?
Left Foot Out wrote:
Runner35824 wrote:This is total b.s.. If this is the d.q. pic. She stepped on the outside line and is d.q.ed. unless i am mistaken you have to take two steps out of lane to be d.q.ed. onestep on outside line is to no disadvantage and should not be a d.q.
Not BS at all. Her entire right foot is the next lane. If the runner in that lane was closer she would have been spiked. Not good. Definite DQ.
She could have run entirely in the lane to her right and she would not have been DQ'd.
Ignorance of the rules in the sport the board professes to follow is remarkable.
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