Sarah baxter

SARAH BAXTER redshirt sophmore 2017

baxter fan wrote:

When did she start to fall off? I remember her winning NXN her senior year against some intense competition. I vaguely remember her getting injured in her senior year of track, so maybe that's where things started to go badly? U of O was probably her biting off more than she could chew, however she could've transferred after freshman year at U of O didn't work out yet she didn't. There must be something about the program that caused her to stay despite not being a scoring athlete.

After an entire high school career of only winning, losing NXN was too much for her. Then her only race next track season was a tie with Bethan Knights in the 3200. Some people get used to being #1 and cannot handle anything else.

I mean if she is running 16:45 on the track she hasn't gotten worse. I would have predicated that someone who dominated XC but didn't have the track(800/1600) times to match to probably have a similarly college career thus far.

I can name---but I won't-- two other Big Name HS females that did nothing in college and another former ____ national champ from English speaking country. All to the same school, none with any success at all after inj. This stuff happens.

It's starts with coming to school with a preexisting inj. Their workouts don't go well, they go into shock, perhaps getting another different inj from compensating, they fade and become irrelevant.

Recruiting females is tricky. You have to know what you are doing. It isn't just about CC success and track times. You look at body type and how healthy you think the runner can remain under a sustained training program. There's a lot of money involved. Making too many mistakes sinks a program: particularly one that doesn't allow the 'running off' of students on 'ship.

Wogan wrote:

I can name---but I won't-- two other Big Name HS females that did nothing in college and another former ____ national champ from English speaking country. All to the same school, none with any success at all after inj. This stuff happens.

It's starts with coming to school with a preexisting inj. Their workouts don't go well, they go into shock, perhaps getting another different inj from compensating, they fade and become irrelevant.

Recruiting females is tricky. You have to know what you are doing. It isn't just about CC success and track times. You look at body type and how healthy you think the runner can remain under a sustained training program. There's a lot of money involved. Making too many mistakes sinks a program: particularly one that doesn't allow the 'running off' of students on 'ship.

#truth

Wogan wrote:

Recruiting males is tricky. You have to know what you are doing. It isn't just about CC success and track times. You look at body type and how healthy you think the runner can remain under a sustained training program. There's a lot of money involved. Making too many mistakes sinks a program: particularly one that doesn't allow the 'running off' of students on 'ship.

Wogan wrote:

I can name---but I won't-- two other Big Name HS females that did nothing in college and another former ____ national champ from English speaking country. All to the same school, none with any success at all after inj. This stuff happens.

It's starts with coming to school with a preexisting inj. Their workouts don't go well, they go into shock, perhaps getting another different inj from compensating, they fade and become irrelevant.

Recruiting females is tricky. You have to know what you are doing. It isn't just about CC success and track times. You look at body type and how healthy you think the runner can remain under a sustained training program. There's a lot of money involved. Making too many mistakes sinks a program: particularly one that doesn't allow the 'running off' of students on 'ship.

Agreed.

High school success does not always lead to success in college and beyond. People always expect linear progression out of HS phenoms but that's just not what happens. It's very difficult to know the future.

(btw, It's hardest on the kid so negative comments about the athletes are lame.)

negative comments about the athletes are lame."

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Ok. I won't do that.

We just graduated a runner who is a cute kid from a picture perfect northern town. She came with a big HS rep but really wasn't all that talented in spite of her successes.

She comes here and basically jogs for 4 years and maybe RS a couple (In/Out) season. Didn't score meaningful CC point in career. No serious inj's.

Attitude is she's 'here for the relationships and travel and pick up a BS. Now she's in grad school doing a lame major at an athletic factory in the South not known for middle distance. Probably getting a little aid too as a 5th year with some elib. left. Certinally wish her well: but if we make too many mistakes like this we are looking for another job. Some HS kids think they "won" a scholarship and are just here to collect their grant-in-aid.

short answer... wrote:

It's hardest on the kid so negative comments about the athletes are lame.

Usually a lousy coach is to blame, and these types quickly dump their ineptitude on the runner.

BolaZudd wrote:

Talent never goes away. expect Great Things!!!

Totally! Just ask german fernandez, right?

Julian_Fernandez_the_real_one wrote:

BolaZudd wrote:

Talent never goes away. expect Great Things!!!

Totally! Just ask german fernandez, right?

Ask him German if motivation goes away while you're at it.

I expect Great Things from Sarah this year.

MAGA

Poor comparison.

Lynn Jennings was studying at Princeton University when athletes weren't recruited at the Ivies. Her studies may explain why she was quite for 4-5 yrs. Baxter is at "Camp Running University."

Shadow Lurker wrote:

Wogan wrote:

I can name---but I won't-- two other Big Name HS females that did nothing in college and another former ____ national champ from English speaking country. All to the same school, none with any success at all after inj. This stuff happens.

It's starts with coming to school with a preexisting inj. Their workouts don't go well, they go into shock, perhaps getting another different inj from compensating, they fade and become irrelevant.

Recruiting females is tricky. You have to know what you are doing. It isn't just about CC success and track times. You look at body type and how healthy you think the runner can remain under a sustained training program. There's a lot of money involved. Making too many mistakes sinks a program: particularly one that doesn't allow the 'running off' of students on 'ship.

#truth

One Power 5 team I follow has two NXN/Foot Locker finalists that have struggled. One a junior and one a sophomore. I do not think the first has ever competed for the team and the 2nd only a few times. One or both have been injured multiple times. Both had a serious injury in HS but did come back in high school. One came back in high school even faster. The other got close in XC but not track due to another injury. Another Power 5 team has two women who ran the 1600 or maybe it was the mile in the 4:40's in high school. One or both competed at Brooks PR. Still no points at college track meets that matter from either and neither has come to close to being top 7 on XC team after 3 years. I know of several other athletes from my state that were state champions that have struggled with injuries in college. A parent of a male distance runner at a power 5 team told me basically his son found it difficult to stay healthy through 3 seasons of running every year. So some men have difficulties with injuries throughout college too. I know some athletes give up the struggle and drop off the team. I don't know how those that struggle with multiple injuries keep enduring. Now that I know more about the teams that I follow and their injuries my interest in college running and these teams has waned. I don't blame the runners or coaches for the injuries. I just find more enjoyment in my own running as a hobby jogger. I too have been injured and lost weeks or months of training but unlike these college runners I am not looking NCAA eligibility slowly slipping away as healthy freshmen join the team and take varsity spots.

Mogan wrote:

Wogan wrote:

Recruiting males is tricky. You have to know what you are doing. It isn't just about CC success and track times. You look at body type and how healthy you think the runner can remain under a sustained training program. There's a lot of money involved. Making too many mistakes sinks a program: particularly one that doesn't allow the 'running off' of students on 'ship.

Says someone that has clearly never recruited males. It is much easier to identify future potential & there is A LOT less money involved.

Off the Oregon roster

I just pretend she changed her name to Emma Abrahamson and picked up a wicked vlog habit.

Heard she had many injuries-not only as a senior in high school, but at Oregon too. Perhaps she decided enough was enough and didn't want to do it anymore.

It's crazy to think Sarah Baxter ran faster as a freshman in high school than she has in college! And her freshman year wasn't her best year in high school either, her junior year was.

I don't care how many injuries or setbacks you have, when you are a gifted and talented runner who has accomplished things....you keep striving until you get back there. Good luck to her.