L'Equipe Publishes list of drugs/vitamins Rowbury & Rupp were on before Rio - French doctor responds, "It's quite astounding as

probably a waste of money, unless there is a significant placebo effect!!!

trying too hard to see wrote:

Interesting to see the drugs that Rowberry and Rupp declared:

LRC Editor's note: We have published a story on the latest Fancy Bears leak involving Galen Rupp and Shannon Rowbury:

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2017/03/fancy-bears-releases-vitamins-medications-galen-rupp-shannon-rowbury-rio/

Here is a translated version of the initial L'Equipe story.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lequipe.fr%2FAthletisme%2FArticle%2FLa-derive-medicamenteuse-des-athletes-de-salazar%2F782249

Looks like they take vitamin supplements and a number of other things, none of which are considered PED's and none illegal and/or banned.

Most of us question them because it seems ridiculous that so many world class distance runners all seem to have asthma and thyroid issues, especially since the drugs used to treat these conditions can have performance enhancing effects. Common sense would make it seem logical that the strongest, healthiest and fittest are the best runners. Not people on a ton of medication for a variety of ailments. Getting a drug you don't need prescribed to you to possibly enhance your performance is cheating. You are just getting around the rules by having an unethical doctor give you the prescription. I can't say Rupp and Rowbury are doing this but it is suspicious.

Skeptic One wrote:

Most of us question them because it seems ridiculous that so many world class distance runners all seem to have asthma and thyroid issues, especially since the drugs used to treat these conditions can have performance enhancing effects. Common sense would make it seem logical that the strongest, healthiest and fittest are the best runners. Not people on a ton of medication for a variety of ailments. Getting a drug you don't need prescribed to you to possibly enhance your performance is cheating. You are just getting around the rules by having an unethical doctor give you the prescription. I can't say Rupp and Rowbury are doing this but it is suspicious.

Rowbury is not taking prescription drugs. Get your facts straight.

Letsrun twitter posted a crappy stock tip

https://twitter.com/letsrundotcom/status/837324166718238720

Why broadcast their "secrets" to their competitors? Well, for starters, their is no secret about distance running. At the end of the day, the athlete with the most talent, the greatest will, and the most relentless pereseverance wins. You need all three to succeed. Alberto could send me Rupp's entire training and nutrition regimen for the past 8 years, and I promise you I wouldn't medal at the Olympics. Even if my natural ability was greater than Galen's, I know I wouldn't be able to commit to the training as relentlessly as he has.

So I agree with the transparency argument. Let the competition know what you're doing. Dare them to try to match your resolve. That was Pre's mentality, and he was reverred for it.

I am disappointed to find out that none of them drink half of a pot of coffee everyday. Shucks.

Right? I was actually expecting something material. It just seems like they did everything legal that they thought would give them a benefit. This whole thing seems like much ado about nothing. No allegations of testosterone, HGH, EPO, something no one has heard of, etc.? This is pretty boring.

Thyroid users go to special olympics.

The lipoflush that's listed under rowbury seems kind of sketchy.

If I took all that, by the time I finished I'd forget to go running.

Skeptic One wrote:

Most of us question them because it seems ridiculous that so many world class distance runners all seem to have asthma and thyroid issues, especially since the drugs used to treat these conditions can have performance enhancing effects. Common sense would make it seem logical that the strongest, healthiest and fittest are the best runners. Not people on a ton of medication for a variety of ailments. Getting a drug you don't need prescribed to you to possibly enhance your performance is cheating. You are just getting around the rules by having an unethical doctor give you the prescription. I can't say Rupp and Rowbury are doing this but it is suspicious.

Alberto Salazar and Dr. Jeffrey Brown are both suspicious and really stupid. Alberto and Jeffrey have an integrity deficit.

Shannon Rowbury uses legal supplements.

Shannon Rowbury is NOT on any thyroid or asthma drugs and is NOT SUSPICIOUS AT ALL.

In conclusion:

1) SHANNON ROWBURY (IRISH) IS THE CLEAN 1500m and 5000m RECORD HOLDER for the USA.

The only evidence we have seen thus far from the FancyBears is that Alberto Salazar will have his athletes take every legal supplement which may give his athletes an edge.

Further, he is constantly testing new ways to gain an edge. Having his flunkies, assistants, or taking things himself to see what happens (even if those would be illegal on an athlete because it violates the 50ML of IV Fluids rule), does not mean that the athletes themselves are breaking the rules.

Yes, some of his athletes have been diagnosed with thyroid issues. It's possible that the doctor prescribing the medication is eager to do so. But regardless, that medication is not banned.

I am not going to defend everything Alberto Salazar has done or said to others, or the ways he tries to gain an edge. I am just pointing out that the best "negative finding" you can make from what has been presented is an insinuation. And in the alternative, you can also conclude that Alberto Salazar is aggressive about making sure his athletes have every legal advantage they can possibly get.

This list is laughably tame and shows zilch. I take that stuff and several more -- all from Amazon. Wake me up when we see evidence of Rupp using illegal drugs.

What RX are you talking about wrote:

Skeptic One wrote:

Most of us question them because it seems ridiculous that so many world class distance runners all seem to have asthma and thyroid issues, especially since the drugs used to treat these conditions can have performance enhancing effects. Common sense would make it seem logical that the strongest, healthiest and fittest are the best runners. Not people on a ton of medication for a variety of ailments. Getting a drug you don't need prescribed to you to possibly enhance your performance is cheating. You are just getting around the rules by having an unethical doctor give you the prescription. I can't say Rupp and Rowbury are doing this but it is suspicious.

Rowbury is not taking prescription drugs. Get your facts straight.

From the Aczone website:

ACZONE® (dapsone) Gel, 7.5% is a prescription medicine used on the skin (topical) to treat acne in people 12 years and older.

An Anthropologist wrote:

[T]heir [sic] is no secret about distance running. At the end of the day, the athlete with the most talent, the greatest will, and the most relentless pereseverance [sic] wins.

Also the iron supplements, zma, the asthma meds, the two separate thyroid meds. I don't think running agrees with that boy.

Well, those are just the supplements these two declared. Of course they only declare the innocent stuff.

yyy wrote:

probably a waste of money, unless there is a significant placebo effect!!!

For example:

No pesky prescription from a doctor was needed in Florida.

Nike says:

JUST DO IT!!!

I have asthma and Hashimotos Hypothyroidism. I take both Synthoid and Cytomel as well as use an Albuterol inhaler. These are pretty common health issues and medications. Some people with hypothyroidism do fine with just synthryoid and some need Cytomel as well. The thyroid issue is pretty easy to confirm with a history of lab work. Also, if someone takes Cytomel and it isn't needed, or too high of a dose, it will increase heart rate, which is not exactly performance enhancing for an endurance athlete. I found this out from experience when my doctor increased my dose too much a couple years ago. These meds are not giving any performance benefit and it doesn't mean someone isn't healthy.