Coaching malpractice does not equal doping. Was the regimen of medications for Mo (or other NOP athletes) on the WADA prohibited list?
This seems to point more to Salazar as dangerous medical quack, or Salazar as crackpot purveyor of scientific fraud, than to a doping violation.
It also sounds like the British doctors are, rightfully, keeping an eye on their athletes. I hope they maintain their vigilance, especially with respect to Mo Farah (and any other British athlete who might fall under Salazar's purview).
The Farah "prescription drug" was for VITAMIN D
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Caffeine is a legal supplement. Nobody would blink an eye if it was published that Alberto was having his group drink tea or coffee before practice.
Now, if it was published that he was having them take 3000mg of caffeine in suppository form, would people suddenly care? -
here we go again... wrote:
Letsrun conveniently keeps that out of their font page recap.
Yes, Vitamin D. The horror.
Completely agree, Raphael Palmerio had the same thing happen to him! It was a Vitamin B12 pill nothing more! -
here we go again... wrote:
Letsrun conveniently keeps that out of their font page recap.
Yes, Vitamin D. The horror.
Completely agree, Raphael Palmerio had the same thing happen to him! It was a Vitamin B12 pill nothing more! -
Anyone still making fun that Mo was caught for Vit D needs to read letsruns latest article. Many more details. Very damning.
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2buckchuck wrote:
No illegal smoking guns in here, but looks pretty obvious that at the very least there's a pretty hefty bag of pills being carried around by someone at NOP. Good thing they have Lance's ear to make sure it's all kept firmly in the gray area.
A great but somewhat snarky recap. -
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fsafafe wrote:
here we go again... wrote:
Or maybe because there is barely a scant of sunlight in the great northwest. Lots of people in the NW take large amounts of VitaminD. Good for bone health (promotes calcium absorption).
It's vitamin D. Sounds like Farah was taking too much of it and the UK doctors backed him off on it. Good for them. Probably realized he didn't need as much if he was training in places like Kenya or Ethiopia in the winter.
It's vitamin D. The Russians are passing tampered blood through holes in the wall and you guys are going bonkers over an athlete taking too much Vitamin D.
Let's pump the brakes here folks and use your heads. Your hatred for the NOP and lust for blood is blinding your rational thinking.
Ah, but we have no idea the dosage was. It sounds like it could have been really high, like tens of thousands IU regularly. I am not trying to slander anyone - am purely interewsted in the reasoning of a massive vit d dose.
Doesn't sound like there is much concrete evidence against Salazar
1. Isn't max daily recommended amount different by country...?
2. Since when is vitamin D a "drug?"
There are herbal supplements that doctors consider drugs...
Vitamin B shots are given by university doctors to athletes all the time...
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Billy Fap wrote:
Letsrun:
" Farah has also admitted in the past to taking L-carnitine, but said that he tried it as part of a drink and not an infusion. However, The Sunday Times reported on Sunday that he received it via an infusion before the 2014 London Marathon. UK Athletics, whose medical staff administered the infusion said that, to its knowledge, the infusion was in accordance with WADA guidelines."
It's the UK staff that should be on the hotseat.
Chalk up another Mo lie, if you look back 3-4 years I think you will find Mo saying he gave up l-carnitine because it caused him to bulk up.
Salazar was asked what supplements his athletes took, he said nothing just a little bit of beta-alanine. -
Bad Wigins wrote:
Dr Shady wrote:
Since when is vitamin D a prescription drug?
^^^ this
it would be interesting to know what pharmacy they get all this stuff from.
Gebre's 7/11 in Ethiopia -
There is no true DRI for vitamin D or upper toxicity limit yet as it is so highly dependent on each individual.
Clinical research does suggest a regular dose of 3000-5000 is necessary to maintain adequate levels whilst this is vastly different to government recommendations which are notoriously ill-informed.
Blood testing is required to understand the state of each person and their required dosing. 100nmol/L is generally considered adequate whilst some have found 200nmol/L is beneficial whilst borders toxicity. To get to this level supplementation can be administered up to 40,000iu over 6 weeks or 20,000iu over 12 weeks then a maintenance dosage.
This is often given as an intramuscular bolus injection which would obviously be a very large dose rather than daily oral supplementation (maybe this is what happened?) but interestingly this has seen to not be effective as smaller daily doses.
Skin pigmentation does blunt the effect of Vitamin D synthesis from sunlight so it wouldn't be unheard of for an athlete to still require supplementation.
The half-life of vitamin d can be as short as 4 weeks from a dose that maintains adequate levels.
Perhaps this helps clear up Vitamin D, not whether any rules were broken but just it as a supplement.
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Do medications that speed up blood circulation contain vitamin D? Just my doctor prescribed special pills for blood circulation. Since I have extremely poor blood circulation. I don't remember their names. I bought them on https://RocketmanNaturals.com. And I read in a health book that my blood group just needs vitamin D. And I wanted to know if I need to buy vitamins separately? Or they are already in the pills that the doctor prescribed for me. If there are people who understand in this something, I would be grateful for your help.
