The Farah "prescription drug" was for VITAMIN D

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Farah World Traveller wrote:

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here we go again... wrote:

Or maybe because there is barely a scant of sunlight in the great northwest. .

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Farah spends very little time in the great northwest. He is usually is sunny southern Europe or always sunny Africa. Do try to keep up, okay.

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wejo wrote:

Did you even read the article? We didn't leave that out at all.

We said, "The USADA report stated that Farah was one of multiple athletes given prescription drugs with no medical need in order to boost performance. Salazar took what USADA called “egregious risks†by urging Farah to take dangerous doses of a legal vitamin D prescription drug. The Sunday Times says Farah’s British doctors intervened after concern about Farah’s health. "

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why d'ya think?

alberto salazar = Letsrun's "Paula Radcliffe doped" masking agent



come on guys, be objective

Yeah... Vitamin D. As in Dianabol.

News flash: You don't need a script for legit vitamins.

USADA, is that all you've got? What a joke. Vitamin D and carnitine?

Get a job doing something else, you jokers.

From Wikipedia:

"Calcitriol (INN), also called 1,25-dihydroxycholecalciferol or 1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D3, is the hormonally active metabolite of vitamin D...

Calcitriol is marketed under various trade names including Rocaltrol (Roche), Calcijex (Abbott), Decostriol (Mibe, Jesalis), Biowoz (Solmarc) and Vectical (Galderma), Rolsical (Sun Pharma)...

Calcitriol is prescribed for... prevention of corticosteroid-induced osteoporosis."

^^^ The last line there is the key.

The UK Times article doesn't specify what the legal vitamin D prescription drug was that Farah is supposed to have been stopped from taking by UK doctors. But it does seem reasonable to assume that because it does say it's a prescription drug, it's more likely to be something like Calcitriol than simply megadoses of your generic OTC Vitamin D supplement.

From that assumption, fairly reasonable to assume that one might be using high doses of a legal drug like Calcitriol to counteract the negative effects on bone density of corticosteroid use, such as, say, prednisone? (This is legal w/ a TUE of course).

No illegal smoking guns in here, but looks pretty obvious that at the very least there's a pretty hefty bag of pills being carried around by someone at NOP. Good thing they have Lance's ear to make sure it's all kept firmly in the gray area.

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fsafafe wrote:

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here we go again... wrote:

Or maybe because there is barely a scant of sunlight in the great northwest. Lots of people in the NW take large amounts of VitaminD. Good for bone health (promotes calcium absorption).

It's vitamin D. Sounds like Farah was taking too much of it and the UK doctors backed him off on it. Good for them. Probably realized he didn't need as much if he was training in places like Kenya or Ethiopia in the winter.

It's vitamin D. The Russians are passing tampered blood through holes in the wall and you guys are going bonkers over an athlete taking too much Vitamin D.

Let's pump the brakes here folks and use your heads. Your hatred for the NOP and lust for blood is blinding your rational thinking.

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Ah, but we have no idea the dosage was. It sounds like it could have been really high, like tens of thousands IU regularly. I am not trying to slander anyone - am purely interewsted in the reasoning of a massive vit d dose.

Doesn't sound like there is much concrete evidence against Salazar

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Vitamin Dumb wrote:

To the Nike employees saying "vitamin D is totally safe and legal": consider the dose.

The amount you get in a glass of milk is 400 iu.
The amount of a typical pill taken daily is 1000 iu.
You can also buy non-prescription pills of 5000 iu.

Much research suggests that 3000-5000 iu/day is needed to maintain healthy levels. This can be received through sun, supplements, or a combination of both. Note that in northern latitudes (most of the US and Europe) you generate none from the sun from November to March. But your body will store surplus (gained in the summer) and access it through the winter.

A day in the sun during the summer will generate a max of about 20,000 iu.

For someone extremely deficient in vitamin D, a prescription dose of 10,000-40,000 iu/day is given for a few weeks to restore healthy levels.

A daily dose of 40,000 for more than 1-2 months is toxic for most people.

If Mo was taking a dose thought to be harmful to his health, that means it was a daily dose of 40,000 for many months, or a higher daily dose for a shorter time.

In other words, a dosage 10x higher than any normal person would take for health reasons.

Yes, there are reasons to be highly suspicious of why he was taking this. Likely because some other drug was causing an extreme depletion of his natural stores.

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Since when is vitamin D a prescription drug? Don't you think somethings wrong when all of Salazar's athletes become human pin cushions? Most people rarely get stabbed by the needle. NOP athletes get picked more times than the Rose of Treslise.

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2buckchuck wrote:

From Wikipedia:

"Calcitriol (INN), also called 1,25-dihydroxycholecalciferol or 1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D3, is the hormonally active metabolite of vitamin D...

Calcitriol is marketed under various trade names including Rocaltrol (Roche), Calcijex (Abbott), Decostriol (Mibe, Jesalis), Biowoz (Solmarc) and Vectical (Galderma), Rolsical (Sun Pharma)...

Calcitriol is prescribed for... prevention of corticosteroid-induced osteoporosis."

^^^ The last line there is the key.

The UK Times article doesn't specify what the legal vitamin D prescription drug was that Farah is supposed to have been stopped from taking by UK doctors. But it does seem reasonable to assume that because it does say it's a prescription drug, it's more likely to be something like Calcitriol than simply megadoses of your generic OTC Vitamin D supplement.

From that assumption, fairly reasonable to assume that one might be using high doses of a legal drug like Calcitriol to counteract the negative effects on bone density of corticosteroid use, such as, say, prednisone? (This is legal w/ a TUE of course).

No illegal smoking guns in here, but looks pretty obvious that at the very least there's a pretty hefty bag of pills being carried around by someone at NOP. Good thing they have Lance's ear to make sure it's all kept firmly in the gray area.

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vitamin D in certain doses and forms is a prescription drug. try reading the thread. or is reading optional for nike employees like you?

"Millar, who was banned from the sport for two years in 2004 after admitting to doping, told The Telegraph that Kenacort, one of the trade names for triamcinolone, was the “most potent†drug he used in his career, describing it as a huge performance enhancer and a dangerous one because of its “powerful, destructive†side effects."

80 mg injection of triamcinolone ( corticosteroid ) before the big race for a performance boost.

Letsrun:

" Farah has also admitted in the past to taking L-carnitine, but said that he tried it as part of a drink and not an infusion. However, The Sunday Times reported on Sunday that he received it via an infusion before the 2014 London Marathon. UK Athletics, whose medical staff administered the infusion said that, to its knowledge, the infusion was in accordance with WADA guidelines."

It's the UK staff that should be on the hotseat.

Farah's game is, UK Athletics made me stop taking that stuff.

There is nothing to stop world-traveller Farah from taking the stuff whenever he wants. There are many reasons Farah likes to train in places that are not the UK or even the US.

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Dr Shady wrote:
Since when is vitamin D a prescription drug?

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The (Huge) Difference Between Vitamins D3 and D2 And Why You Should Never Take D2

https://saveourbones.com/the-huge-difference-between-vitamins-d3-and-d2-and-why-you-should-never-take-d2/

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Vitamin Dumb wrote:
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Yes, there are reasons to be highly suspicious of why he was taking this. Likely because some other drug was causing an extreme depletion of his natural stores.

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Black skin blocks the absorbtion of Vitamin D so many in northern climates become deficient. Just saying.