balance wrote:
...it can take a long period of time to recover from these workouts...
...but you can only do some much intensity before you begin to break down. It can take many easy regeneration days of long slow running to recover enough to be able to do another hard workout...
Balance. First of all thanks for you reply.
I´m not the kind of man that asks questions, but before he aks he thinks he knows the answer, a diffrent answer than the one he asks. If i did ask a questioon to you my main goal that´s to know your opinion.
But, if you permit me, just a few my considerations about what you said your comment about the need for recover after that workouts.
I don´t disagree that the last period before a peak/target goal competition, that we may decrease the intensity and keep on with aerobic training.
But i also use that workouts more than 2 weeks before the comepetition.
But about the recover of a workout, let me remember you that´s proved that after a track 1500m/3000m/5000m run we may recover in 2 days 48 hours after the run - that´s what the physiologists they say. If don´t in all big track competitions as the Olympics or Wchamps or Continental Champs or even WcrossCChamps - at that top competitive level - we wouldn´t have heats, semi-finals and finals ssepate by 48h to 72hours (2 to 3 days). And it seems that the runners don´t show any trace of umcomplete recover. Remember the cases of Bekele, or male Kelly Holmes (double win in Athens) or El Guerrouj (1500m heats, simi-final and final, and 5000m simi-final and final) and win both events, running a lot of runs separate just by 1 or 2 days distance.
El Guerrouj didn´t show any trace of tiredness.
Then i don´t believe that any of the workouts i suggest, needs more than 48h to 72hours to recover if after the workout you decrase the training intensity and the volume, or even if ther´s the need - you take a day off, wich i find, i guess.
But continue my comment. Fist time my attention focus in the need or an hard stimulus before a major competition that´s in 1972 olympics, when the spain runner Mariano Haro (27:42) did 4th in the 10000m olympics. The final was in the evening, but in te morning of that final he did 4X1000m/2:36 average (quite all-out) rec=3min. Mariano´s coach justifies that workout as a very good one that act as a "stimulus" and since they try that once for mariano it works find, and before a competiton - the day before or in the morning of the day Mariano uses do to that, some reps just to relax. Mariano haro did a long career - 25 years running. a few times he did win over Carlos Lopes. In no occasion Mariano did show to be tired with that pre-competition workouts all or that troubles his competition perfromance. On the contrary when he disns´t that that´s when the problesm that occur.
I myself, i did my best 1500m track runs in the second or third attempt separete by 1-2 days each one. One of my runners he did give up in the morning of a 5000m run because he felt no able to run for the estimate pace, and in the evening he did his 3000m PB ! It worked !
Also some of my runers that do road runs, they do 2 runs in the same day, and the second one that´s the best result !
Then without deny that we may slow down the intensity in the period close to the competition, i don´t understand why you say that one needs more than 48-72 hours to recover from that my workouts, as i don´t understand why you exclude the need from a strong/intense strong stimulus right before the race.
One more info. Since lots of years that i coach and use that workouts - no one my runners did claim that when they do that check test workouts before they enter in the competition they felt tired. But the opposite that´s true, they said that´s the check workout they think that´s the last key detail for the good run they did.