I don't understand why a camaro is not your choice.
I don't understand why a camaro is not your choice.
This guy gets it. Just get a basic car for your daily commute. Anything else is a waste unless you actually need it. If you must have a truck i invite you to read Mr. Money Mustache's take on trucks. V6 vehicles are fast and powerful, but do you really need it and is it worth the extra $$?
If you need to "offroad" get a pair of running shoes and a mountain bike. Way more fun anyway.
add some thrill wrote:
If it was a car, I'd say go with a 4 cylinder, but trucks are heavy & usually sluggish & slow. Go with a V6. A Tacoma weighs around 4,500 pounds. In comparison a Camry (which is a pretty large car) weighs 3300 pounds.
This. Spot on.
Drove one for the first time yesterday, hiway and rural roads.great truck, this
EvilMinded wrote:
add some thrill wrote:If it was a car, I'd say go with a 4 cylinder, but trucks are heavy & usually sluggish & slow. Go with a V6. A Tacoma weighs around 4,500 pounds. In comparison a Camry (which is a pretty large car) weighs 3300 pounds.
This. Spot on.
Drove one for the first time yesterday, hiway and rural roads.great truck, this
Power isn't every thing, gearing is a big part of it and the 4 cylinder Tacoma has really aggressive gears so a comparison to the camery isn't accurate. Also the Tacoma has .3 more liters of displacement over the camery which means its will have more torque through out the rev range.
Tacoma's are over priced for what you get. Buy a Nissan Frontier. More for your money & very reliable.
exthrower wrote:
Red eye radio wrote:Colorado diesel is very expensive. I think 40k minimum
AND...A diesel will run for 500,00 to 100,000,000 miles....2-3 times as many miles as a gas engine...
I don't necessarily disagree with this but its a GM...
Hmm, thought this thread was dead. Anyways.
My daily driver is a bicycle or motorcycle on most days. Now I want a truck for going deeper into the remote areas and camping in places beyond a trail head or campground. And other truck stuff, liking hauling. I can't carry a week's worth of supplies for the desert on a bike or on my back, I've tried that method. Plus, trucks are fun.
Or maybe I could just get a cargo van and a dirt bike. Still, there will be issues with carrying supplies.
Yea, yea, just rent a truck when you want it, but doing that for a few weeks a year adds up real quick.
I looked at full-size trucks with at least an extended cab and they don't fit in my garage. Too big. Plus if you want a diesel engine, they start very pricey.
nissanna wrote:
Tacoma's are over priced for what you get. Buy a Nissan Frontier. More for your money & very reliable.
Not a bad suggestion. Just feel like the Tacoma is a better long-term value because of resale value.
If I'm buying a truck it's because I want the ability to do truck things. Haul stuff, tow things, get through poor driving conditions with ease. Basically things that require more power than you need in a sedan. Now, if you have no intention of ever doing any of those things, get the 4 cylinder. But I know if I'm buying a truck, I'm going to err on the side of more power than less, assuming it's reliable power.
feldman wrote:
If I'm buying a truck it's because I want the ability to do truck things. Haul stuff, tow things, get through poor driving conditions with ease. Basically things that require more power than you need in a sedan. Now, if you have no intention of ever doing any of those things, get the 4 cylinder. But I know if I'm buying a truck, I'm going to err on the side of more power than less, assuming it's reliable power.
Yea, that's my idea about a truck, too, I have the intention of doing some of those things.
Trucks and many buyers these days are ridiculous, people buy them at family vehicles or to satisfy their hyper masculine egos without using the truck nearly for what it is intended to do.
Bad rating from consumer reports, most reports probably coming from the v6
Uriel. wrote:
If you can, get a Hilux instead:
http://www.newsweek.com/why-rebel-groups-love-toyota-hilux-74195
Buy a Toyota because rebel groups like them? You know what else rebel groups like? Crapping on walls. Raping women, children, and men. Great group to get ideas from. Such a great thought process they have.
exthrower wrote:
AND...A diesel will run for 500,00 to 100,000,000 miles...
Guess that's Chevy quality control for ya...
Not for the $ wrote:
Uriel. wrote:If you can, get a Hilux instead:
http://www.newsweek.com/why-rebel-groups-love-toyota-hilux-74195Buy a Toyota because rebel groups like them? You know what else rebel groups like? Crapping on walls. Raping women, children, and men. Great group to get ideas from. Such a great thought process they have.
Good troll, but missed the mark. 5/10
It is about the truck not the rebels.
Blueridge wrote:
I have the "big" four in my '02 - had it for 11 yrs. I've hauled quite a bit of stuff and have never felt at loss for power. Since I'm in the mtns., I've done my share of rock-crawling, too - it's been more than adequate power. I've taken quite a few distance road trips, cruises nicely at 65 - never thought about a six.
This. 10/10 (ditto for my '03)
cheap old guy wrote:
Blueridge wrote:I have the "big" four in my '02 - had it for 11 yrs. I've hauled quite a bit of stuff and have never felt at loss for power. Since I'm in the mtns., I've done my share of rock-crawling, too - it's been more than adequate power. I've taken quite a few distance road trips, cruises nicely at 65 - never thought about a six.
This. 10/10 (ditto for my '03)
My older brother has had both versions ('05 4 cyl, '13 6 cyl). I loved both trucks, drove them both, never had problems with either.
The one question the OP hasn't answered is what are you going to be hauling? That might make the difference here.
4 cyl can do almost everything the v6 can.
6 cyl obviously has better towing capacity. I trust it a little more in the mountains. Toyota also makes a great v6. I'd expect to get more life out of it than the 4.
If it were me, given equivalent fuel economy and greater resale value and slightly superior versatility, I'd put up the extra few grand and go v6. But I also want to be able to tow a ski boat, and the v6 is better for that. You aren't a wasteful American for buying more power. You're buying versatility.
Former Tacoma 4x4 owner here. I had the 6 cylinder for 15 years and probably never came close to maxing out the power usage for towing or hauling. I had a few loads of gravel that was way closer to maxing out my springs than my engine. I did some light off-roading and the Tacomas are great for that. I am sure a 4 cylinder could have handled everything I threw at my truck. Again, nothing major but that sounds like what you are expecting.
But, if there is no gas mileage difference I would still lean toward the 6. I say that mainly for the ability to merge onto highways and get around big trucks with confidence. I realize they can get a lot out of 4 cylinders these days but they can get even more out of a 6.
My truck was 22 years old when I parked it on the corner of my yard with a For Sale sign in the window. Someone called me with in 2 hours and bought it the next day.
V6 is the best model more power and only a 1 mpg difference
granted there is no such thing as a V4 Toyota.
but Saab sold a V4 in the 1970s.
I was told that it was actually a Ford tractor engine.
I had that engine in my 1970 Saab 95 station wagon.