HardLoper wrote:
Ho Hum wrote:Obama ordered that people from those countries would no longer be on the Visa Waiver Program, except under some circumstances, meaning that they would be subject to extra vetting. He did not do anything close to banning them.
But he also came up with the list, which means it had nothing to do with Trump's interests contrary to yesterday's fake news.
HardLoper, you might be able to use your own thinking power to ask yourself the following question. I will not answer them for you, it is up for you to debate internally. Try to not be biased, I know it is really really hard for Americans to not fall on the left or the right and get stuck there forever.
In the exec order, which you can read online (or is that fake news too) he starts off by talking about the Saudis who were involved in 9/11 as a little emotional piece to show his inspiration for the order.
...in no instance was that more apparent than the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, when State Department policy prevented consular officers from properly scrutinizing the visa applications of several of the 19 foreign nationals who went on to murder nearly 3,000 Americans.
He goes on to say therefore he is banning entry for people from those countries in list XYZ.
I hereby proclaim that the immigrant and nonimmigrant entry into the United States of aliens from countries referred to in section 217(a)(12) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1187(a)(12), would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and I hereby suspend entry into the United States, as immigrants and nonimmigrants, of such persons for 90 days from the date of this order. (clearly bans greencard holders and dual citizens btw, and nowhere specifies that 'sports stars or entertainers' are exempt like some people have been saying)
He then adds:
I hereby proclaim that the entry of nationals of Syria as refugees is detrimental to the interests of the United States and thus suspend any such entry until such time as I have determined that sufficient changes have been made to the USRAP to ensure that admission of Syrian refugees is consistent with the national interest.
Interesting, so why exactly did he not decide to specifically add the Saudis like he did the Syrians. He definitely didn't forget about 9/11.