Oregon women just set new NCAA DMR record - 10:48.77

jjjjjj wrote:

Rainsberger's 1600m split is awfully good.

3:54 is pretty incredible as a split at this time of year. Was Cheserek drafting and then kicking to that time?

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TrackCoach wrote:

Wow!

I did not see that coming, that TN team that set the record was stacked with talent. I guess a 3:20 lead off and a 4:30 anchor will always do the trick. Who is the girl that lead off, she looks really good.

Lilly Burdon. She's young. Ran cross but not at NC's. Has a 4:38 mile PR but this year it looks as if she's on another level. That 3:20 1200 is 4:27 mile pace!

jjjjjj wrote:

Rainsberger's 1600m split is awfully good.

3:54 is pretty incredible as a split at this time of year. Was Cheserek drafting and then kicking to that time?

Here's how it played out. It looked like NJNY put a team out there to give some good competition to Oregon in their quest for an NCAA qualifier. NJNY only put one of their blue chip milers in there and that was Alexander on the lead off. It looked to me as if he was told to run an evenly paced 2:54 cuz that's what he did. Like a robot. Straight 29.5 laps. Running a 2:54 as a solo time trial shows he is in crazy shape. He handed off with a couple second lead over Penn who had a couple seconds on Oregon.

Then NJNY held the lead thru the 400 and 800 and at the handoff to the anchor NJNY had a 2 second lead. As Ed does, he made up the 2 seconds right away, pulling up on Travis Mahoney's shoulder by 300 meters into the race. He shadowed Mahoney til the 800 and then took off. Ed ran 3:54. Mahoney ran 4:01. In defense of Mahoney, he does have a 3:58 mile PR but is primarily a steepler. He's an 8:25 guy.

Chez looked like he's in the shape of his life!

Got Record wrote:

Couple things. Rainsberger looked very relaxed running 4:30. I know it was a relay and a 1600, but even adding a second, that's 4:31. Plus she had no one to run against. Last year a 4:32 was the #2 time going into NCAA's. Not that you can count a relay split in the rankings but it shows that she is a monster threat at one mile.

Yah and Colby was sick on the lead off.

Congrats to the women, great run.

why did you add a second? If that is for the running start, you need to add more than another second for the extra 9.3 meters she will have to run in the mile (or do they run the 1600m in the NCAA Division I championships?).

Doesn't change the fact she ran great- just helping you make the conversion more accurate.

No, that pretty much sucks.

Clock Tower Pumpkin wrote:

No, that pretty much sucks.

Don't say that too loud. Anyone that has run competitively knows just how fast 2:57.9 is for a 1200. Particularly in Jan. That is smokin'. And by season's end he'll be even faster.!

Got Record wrote:

Couple things. Rainsberger looked very relaxed running 4:30. I know it was a relay and a 1600, but even adding a second, that's 4:31. Plus she had no one to run against. Last year a 4:32 was the #2 time going into NCAA's. Not that you can count a relay split in the rankings but it shows that she is a monster threat at one mile.

Had the opportunity to listen to Lisa Rainsberger talk at the Distance Summit in Colorado Springs a few weeks ago. She was really on point concerning the development of young runners. She never pushed her daughter into running and just let her fall in love with it on her own. She related a story of her first CC race as a freshman where with little training she won the race. She said when she saw the look on her daughter's face as she crossed the finish line she thought to herself, "We're in trouble" because she knew her daughter had caught the running bug in that instant and there was no turning back. Her training slowly progressed and intensified throughout HS but never came close to overtraining. She will be a force for Team USA in the future.

Anyone have video of it?

Is that Austrian guy Niki Franzmair still around to possibly run the 800m leg?

What happened to Freddy Ovett?

Freddy only ran unattached at Oregon for one year and then went back to GB. Franzmair only ran one year, ran that great 1:46 leg on their national championship DMR, then went back home to Germany and last I heard he enlisted in their military. Also heard he may resume running.

Sorry, Nikki's from Austria, not Germany.

Tennessee, a powerhouse in 2009 !

What happened to that coach ?

C/M Runner wrote:

Oregon DMR splits:

Burdon - 3:20.558(3:20.558)

Horsley - 4:14.319(53.762)

Rogers - 6:17.845(2:03.526)

Rainsberger - 10:48.768(4:30.923)

Stanford could possibly get the record

Aragon and Cranny are both 4:09 1500m runners (2 fastest 1500m times going into the outdoor season), and Olivia Baker runs a 2:01 in the open. Gabrielle Gayles has run 53.59 in the open.

A 4:09 is 66.4 seconds per lap. I'll put Aragon around 4:30 for 1600m since I have no reason to believe she'd be in any worse mile shape than Raisenberg which is a 4:12 1500m. 67.2 per lap, since its a 1200m, and her 800m is 2:04 (62 per lap), she could at least pull 65.67's for 3 laps. That's 3:17 for 1200m. Fast split, yes, but she is a 4:09 runner.

Their 400m runner has already run a 55 rust Buster and has an indoor PR of 54 mid, so I'm calling a 54 flat split

Olivia Baker has ran 2:01, but since it's indoor, but again a relay split, I'll call a 2:02

Cranny split 4:30 her FR year on the DMR coming off a 4:09 HS SR year to finish 2nd at Nationals. She's made good strides and believe she can at least match that performance considering she's ran 4:09 again last summer (in a tactical race for the first half) and has adjusted to the training well. I'll call a 4:29.

Aragon- 3:17

Gayles- 54 (4:11)

Baker- 2:02 (6:13)

Cranny- 4:29 (10:42) round up maybe 10:43

In Oregon's defense, they could probably go a little faster as well, but don't count out Stanford.

Oregon could go faster. First of all, it's only January. By March they will be faster. Also Rogers, just by herself, has gone 4 seconds faster. Lastly, the 400 runner has to be one of their better 400 runners or they wouldn't have run her. But being one of their top quarter milers you would think she would also have at least a second faster in her as well.

Everything else equal, no improvement from the 1200 and 1600 legs, that's a 10:43.

NOP Skeptic wrote:

C/M Runner wrote:

Oregon DMR splits:

Burdon - 3:20.558(3:20.558)

Horsley - 4:14.319(53.762)

Rogers - 6:17.845(2:03.526)

Rainsberger - 10:48.768(4:30.923)

Stanford could possibly get the record

Aragon- 3:17

Gayles- 54 (4:11)

Baker- 2:02 (6:13)

Cranny- 4:29 (10:42) round up maybe 10:43

In Oregon's defense, they could probably go a little faster as well, but don't count out Stanford.

Just because Stanford has the potential to race fast doesn't mean they actually will, anytime you're trying to set a record you're front running and that's harder. Oregon won't run another real DMR until NCAA's. Seeing Stanford's ability to run from the front in their attempt should show how strong they are.

Hopefully at NCAA's these 2 teams will be able to push each other to the record, but it can always get tactical. A lot of it really comes down to the 1200m, they set the tone.

Cranny ran 3:18 today coming off injury. They ran 11:01. Get Cranny on anchor and get these people into a race together.

Cranny and Rainsberger can renew the HS rivalry. Which wasn't much of on because Cranny always won, but still.

Stanford won't even come close to Oregon at NCAA's indoor in the DMR why because Stanford wastes more talent then any team in the Country maybe combined. Stanford for the most part makes it's runners slower and Oregon makes it's runners faster. Also Oregon peaks it's runners for NCAA I mean Oregon women's DMR was what 12 seconds faster then Stanford DMR yesterday and will only get faster at NCAA's.

They are now only about 8 seconds away from the DMR indoor world record of 10:40.31 that was just set today by Coburn, McLaughin, Martienz, and Simpson. Katie Rainsberger's leg is only 3 seconds behind Jenny! It's only January. It would be crazy if they broke 10:40 at nationals... I'm not sure how likely it would be though.