I don't think there's a second 3k in that workout. Looks like it finished with 5x200 at 3k pace, then 4x1k.
I don't think there's a second 3k in that workout. Looks like it finished with 5x200 at 3k pace, then 4x1k.
all the yanks hating on the workout and saying it has no purpose - did any of you go on to run 3:34?
also... do people stateside really not know who CPT is? olympic semifinalist, has run 3:34 twice, ran 3:52 to place 5th at 5th ave mile, is a huge cleve etc etc
CanadianHere wrote:
imarunr wrote:So:
30 min. warmup
5 x :30 hills
5 x 200m
1 x 3k
5 x :30 hills
5 x 200m
1 x 3k
4 x 1k
30 min. cooldown
28km total workout
I believe CPT's PB is only 3:34.23. Not 3:33 like some of these guys are stating.
But put that aside, someone please tell me the purpose of this workout. Seriously! What is the purpose of this workout? Sprints, 3kms, hills, 1kms, and it's the distance of a long run?
Someone please tell me why a 1500m runner would EVER be doing a 28km workout. This must have taken at minimum 2 hours to complete.
I think toward the end of the video, they listed the time the workout started and the time it ended. From memory, I think it was just over THREE HOURS, including the warmup & cooldown.
As to the purpose of the workout, maybe they're just more efficient in the Great White North. You cram in your hill rep session, sprints, tempo runs, intervals AND your long run all into a SINGLE workout! Then you can take the rest of the week off. LOL. :)
christopher robin wrote:
also... do people stateside really not know who CPT is? olympic semifinalist, has run 3:34 twice, ran 3:52 to place 5th at 5th ave mile, is a huge cleve etc etc
Could somebody please explain to me where the term "cleve" came from?
I've seen it a few times on Canadian threads and feel left out.
Cleve alert. OK CPT's PB is "only" 3:34
christopher robin wrote:
all the yanks hating on the workout and saying it has no purpose - did any of you go on to run 3:34?
Are you asking for a list of all the sub 3:34 runners in the us, or just all the sub 3:34 ones who don't do 3 hour long garbage bucket workouts where they do a moderate amount of everything, but none to an independently challenging degree? Interestingly enough both those lists will be about the same, at least for the last 20 years.
30 min warmup
5x30" hills (30" rest)
5x200m (30" rest)@31
3k-8:45
5x30" hills
5x200 (30" rest)-31
4x1k (2' rest?)-2:54,2:50,2:44,2:39 (something like that)
30 min cooldown
That is a long w/u and c/d. For a 3:34 guy what are the paces here?
They look like they are getting after it on the hills. Then Philibert is doing about 3k pace for the 200s, albeit on short rest. He is doing maybe 10k or slower pace on the 3k. And he is doing maybe 10k pace down to 5k-3k pace on the 1k's. This is a strength workout that keeps them in touch with their speed. Obviously, something is working for him to run 3:34. To get to 3:30, he might need top level partners and a more conventional training system.
"60 quarters, Bruce!"
Something like that.
garbage bucket wrote:
christopher robin wrote:all the yanks hating on the workout and saying it has no purpose - did any of you go on to run 3:34?
Are you asking for a list of all the sub 3:34 runners in the us, or just all the sub 3:34 ones who don't do 3 hour long garbage bucket workouts where they do a moderate amount of everything, but none to an independently challenging degree? Interestingly enough both those lists will be about the same, at least for the last 20 years.
Great response to this ignorant kid who can't tell me the purpose of this workout. This workout has no purpose, sure one kid can run(at the time of the workout) approximately 3:40s. Maybe he could be running 3:32 instead of 3:34 now if he ran better quality workouts. But how many of these kids would become injured after a 3+ hour workout?
If my coach told me to do this workout and couldn't provide a proper purpose of what this workout would do for me; that person would no longer be my coach.
the purpose of the workout was to become a better runner.
philibert-thiboutot did, and if you look up the other runners doing it they all did too. lots of studs came out of laval.
your coach tells you to do a workout you don't like, and your response is to quit? sounds like you're a huge b***ch tbh
I didn't see evidence of a second 3k. It's roughly 11k of work (2k in hill sprints, 2k in 200s, 3k continuous, 4K in intervals).
former CIS guy wrote:
christopher robin wrote:also... do people stateside really not know who CPT is? olympic semifinalist, has run 3:34 twice, ran 3:52 to place 5th at 5th ave mile, is a huge cleve etc etc
Could somebody please explain to me where the term "cleve" came from?
I've seen it a few times on Canadian threads and feel left out.
Cash me ouside, how ba dah?
You are certainly a cleve if you don't know what a cleve is.
"Canada, a sort of culturally barren snowy wasteland full of moose and transgender 5-year-olds. " -Milo
Sometimes, I read critics telling that many Letsrun's forum users talk without knowing what they are talking about. That is not my general point of view since I find, most of the times, that posts and comments seems to come from knowledgeable runners. But for the first time, here, I see how it can be true that a lot of gossip rules some posts...
1) workout is from 2013, when CPT and other partners where not as fast as they are right now. Better stop wondering if the guy runs 3:34 or 3:33, because he was not then a 3:40.
2) It is a workout in the last part of a cross-country season where guys have to race over 10k. So, better stop asking why a 1500m runner on track should prepare like this in track season, since it is not a training for 1500 or even track.
3) I don't why many assume the coach doesn't know or can't tell the purpose of the workout. I know the coach, and I can bet all I possess that there is a well planed purpose for this one. He is not the guy of coach to give random workout. He is more the king who thinks a lot about, do carefull planing and search for the right dosage between intensity and volume at the right time.
4) Many comments guessing the duration of the workout, or wrongly calculating the pace (in 2013...) of some intervals. Also some comments about when or why this training session, what is said in the video. All this only prove you don't speak french and are willing to make some bald guess based on opinions about what should or should not be shown in the video.
Easy now. Everybody knows that the workout taken in context is just that a late season workout. Chill and don't take yourself so seriously. You got trolled.