Trump Doctrine wrote:
Clearly, Trump puts country before party.
I fixed it for you... Clearly, Trump puts himself and Russia before the US.
Can you say "obstruction of justice" and "RICO?"
Mueller time is fast approaching.
Trump Doctrine wrote:
Clearly, Trump puts country before party.
I fixed it for you... Clearly, Trump puts himself and Russia before the US.
Can you say "obstruction of justice" and "RICO?"
Mueller time is fast approaching.
FBI deputy director McCabe is stepping down today. I would expect him to be a witness in an upcoming obstruction of justice case.
Not good news for Trumpers.
Objective question for the group.... wrote:
I have an objective question for everyone. It’s easy because it’s multiple choice with choices that everyone agrees are the ONLY reasonable options....Donald J. trump; horrible president or worst president in modern history?
You have to consider all things...his personality, his lying, the US status in the world because he is our President, the racism, the sexism, the criminal behavior both before being elected and since being in office, his laziness, his mindblowing number of days away from the White House at his properties with most of that golfing, his unpreparedness for being President...when you take everything into account, he is by far the worst President in modern history, and it isn't even close.
nontrumper wrote:
FBI deputy director McCabe is stepping down today. I would expect him to be a witness in an upcoming obstruction of justice case.
Not good news for Trumpers.
Or maybe it's because Republicans are getting ready to release the "memo" and maybe it shows him abusing his power. Let's find out.
nontrumper wrote:
From conservative NEVER Trumper Rick Wilson:
"If Barack Obama proposed a nationalized 5G network, conservatives would be losing their goddamned minds on economic, free-market, and privacy grounds."
They were howling when Obama proposed domestic spending as a way to improve economic activity. A strategy that is known and trusted to bring economies out of low levels of activity. They chose to let the recession rumble on, declaring it fiscally irresponsible, over the well-being of voters. Party over country.
Until a small spending bill passed and they lined up to have the money spent in their districts.
With the recent tax breaks for the wealthy, they have charted their own course for fiscal irresponsibility. This time it's going to be exactly like the last two times, increasing disparity between a few wealthy and the rest of America.
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Every country that has more regulatory presence in network availability does it a bit differently. Some provide a "common carrier" infrastructure onto which service providers compete on mostly providing customer service. Some enforce a single infrastructure standard, peering standards and let providers compete on providing service and standardized infrastructure.
And then you have America with multiple standards, multiple infrastructure buildouts and resulting lower capacity, high consumer costs, and poor urban availability. America is a big country and it's very expensive and difficult to have excellent coverage everywhere. In terms of urban availability, the U.S. is far behind many industrialized nations. All consequences of "free" markets.
obvious problem wrote:
Also, do you really believe that a college degree counts as having an eduction?
Your typo aside, yes. If you are talking or writing about someone who is "educated", unless there is clarifying text attached to it ("educated in the ways of the street"), then yes, that means college-educated. I don't make the rules, but I know the rules.
Flagpole wrote:
Objective question for the group.... wrote:
I have an objective question for everyone. It’s easy because it’s multiple choice with choices that everyone agrees are the ONLY reasonable options....Donald J. trump; horrible president or worst president in modern history?
You have to consider all things...his personality, his lying, the US status in the world because he is our President, the racism, the sexism, the criminal behavior both before being elected and since being in office, his laziness, his mindblowing number of days away from the White House at his properties with most of that golfing, his unpreparedness for being President...when you take everything into account, he is by far the worst President in modern history, and it isn't even close.
Trump is on track to become a top three President. He's already ahead of Reagan's pace, and Reagan's beggiest mistake was granting amnesty to illegals before border security was in place. If Trump can win the Battle of the Border, he just might make it to the second best President. No one can beat Washington, so second is as high as he can get.
DiscoGary wrote:
So Flagpole is making the case that the Republican Party is supported by blue collar people and the Democrat Party is supported by wealthy elites.
I agree!
Well, TRUMP was supported by blue collar uneducated people and Hillary was supported by educated people. Not all educated people are wealthy. Plumbers and truck drivers make more than Social Workers.
There are wealthy elites on both sides of the aisle, but the most educated ones are Democrats. That has long been the case and was even more stark with Trump as uneducated voters greatly supported Trump.
Again...this is all ancillary to the biggest truth...
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Sourced wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
So Flagpole is making the case that the Republican Party is supported by blue collar people and the Democrat Party is supported by wealthy elites.
I agree!
I think Flagpole is making the case that he is willing to lie in order to try and support his argument.
Lying is not something Flagpole does.
DiscoGary wrote:
Or maybe it's because Republicans are getting ready to release the "memo" and maybe it shows him abusing his power. Let's find out.
The guy responsible for the memo, Nunes, is the same one that took his subcommittee's Congressional evidence directly to the White House last year. This will be another one of Nunes' obvious attempts at turning the Republic into a fascist State.
Once again, the same domestic spying has been ongoing since Cheney and was recently reauthorized by Congress and re-signed into law by the President. Extremists on the Right can't discuss Cheney's role, or the fact it is all within the bounds of Law while subverting the Republic.
Good job wasting the taxpayers' time Conservative Justice Warriors.
You got the spirit of it right, but I really did have a 19% college-educated vote for Trump somewhere; did not pull it out of thin air. I know that people can look this stuff up. For some reason I can no longer find it...perhaps it was an error that whoever published it retracted...I don't know. Just can't find it again. I will go with the other stats I found which also show that uneducated voters voted in droves for Trump and Hillary won the educated vote, and then the graduate degree vote by a lot.
The important thing though is that no matter who elected Trump, he is a criminal and a con man.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Flagpole wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
So Flagpole is making the case that the Republican Party is supported by blue collar people and the Democrat Party is supported by wealthy elites.
I agree!
Well, TRUMP was supported by blue collar uneducated people and Hillary was supported by educated people. Not all educated people are wealthy. Plumbers and truck drivers make more than Social Workers.
There are wealthy elites on both sides of the aisle, but the most educated ones are Democrats. That has long been the case and was even more stark with Trump as uneducated voters greatly supported Trump.
Is there something wrong with that?
Noob Alert wrote:
...you think Trump lies more than the others, but you'd be wrong.
Dude, that is simply not true. Trump lies way more than other Presidents...it is not even close and it is demonstrably so.
Bump the Trump wrote:
I'll give it to you, Flagpole, your minions sure are loyal to you. You should be proud of them.
I do not have minions and do not want any. The majority of Americans do not approve of Trump, and this board is no different. The people here who post against Trump are just clearly smart individuals.
Trump is screwed.
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
Or maybe it's because Republicans are getting ready to release the "memo" and maybe it shows him abusing his power. Let's find out.
The guy responsible for the memo, Nunes, is the same one that took his subcommittee's Congressional evidence directly to the White House last year. This will be another one of Nunes' obvious attempts at turning the Republic into a fascist State.
Once again, the same domestic spying has been ongoing since Cheney and was recently reauthorized by Congress and re-signed into law by the President. Extremists on the Right can't discuss Cheney's role, or the fact it is all within the bounds of Law while subverting the Republic.
Good job wasting the taxpayers' time Conservative Justice Warriors.
So its Bush's fault!
No this hasn't been going on. Obama used the national security apparatus to spy on the opposition party with the intent of overthrowing the elected President. Nixon never came close to something as bad as this, and neither did Cheney.
This is probably the biggest scandal in the history of the US because it is an attempt to cancel the results of the election which would effectively end our democratic process. The fact that Trump has unmasked this corruption is one of the things that puts him above many other Presidents.
Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:
WTF are you talking about? I've criticized Flagpole as much as anyone, that's a known fact. He at least corrected his mistake. TRUMP NEVER DOES THAT. NEVER. And it makes him a lying POS, with no class, no character, and you know it.
Yep...you for sure have criticized me, and it was right of you to point out that I did correct a mistake (I will call it a mistake, but I really did see that 19% somewhere, but I could have checked more figures first before using that one). What that means of course is that you have integrity. Most people don't.
If I make a mistake here or made a prediction that turns out not to come true, I will ALWAYS own up to it. Always have and always will. That sounds hard for some people on this board because they would never do that, but when integrity is your guide, it's not hard at all.
Flagpole wrote:
Sourced wrote:
I think Flagpole is making the case that he is willing to lie in order to try and support his argument.
Lying is not something Flagpole does.
Too late, brother. You've been busted.
Got an answer yet, Flagpole?
Softie wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Well, TRUMP was supported by blue collar uneducated people and Hillary was supported by educated people. Not all educated people are wealthy. Plumbers and truck drivers make more than Social Workers.
There are wealthy elites on both sides of the aisle, but the most educated ones are Democrats. That has long been the case and was even more stark with Trump as uneducated voters greatly supported Trump.
Is there something wrong with that?
I have never said so or insinuated so. The fact is that uneducated people far outvoted for Trump than for Clinton. Trump voters are apparently embarrassed by that as they like to mention that educated white men voted for Trump more than they did for Clinton. Doesn't matter to them that educated women voted for Hillary and not The Donald.
I'm just looking at demographics, and the fact is that the more educated you are (especially graduate level) the more likely you were to vote for Hillary and the less educated you are, the more likely you were to vote for Trump.
That can mean a lot of things. Decide for yourself if that's bad or good.
The MAIN point though is that Trump is a criminal and he will have to pay the piper.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.