Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

Also, its my observation that people with limited argument typically have to resort to name calling and other ways to deflect scrutiny of the validity or data sources of their argument(s). Racist, bigot, Hitler, Nazi etc ad nauseam...... I haven't heard Trump called Stalin, Pol Pot or Idi Amin though as yet and am surprised. But I'm sure that will surface eventually.

Lol. Seriously, is that "your observation" oh enlightened one ?? What a bright guy you are! Let ME share an observation with YOU:

Right Wingers, like, called Obama EVERY SINGLE ONE of the names you list above, and then some (x1000), and I guaranF'ntee you it didn't bother you one teeny bit, nor did you share your "observation" with anyone who called him those names that " people with limited arguments typically have to resort to name calling and other ways to deflect scrutiny of the validity or data sources of their argument(s)". Right? Right. You goddamned hypocrite. (Hey, when the shoe fits...? I am just channeling my inner trump and calling it like I see it: you ARE a goddamned hypocrite of the highest level.)

Flagpole wrote:

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

I can read just fine. The results of the "stupid" cognitive test indicates your disdain for the test and the Administrator of said test, IE the MD, OR that you're a licensed professional qualified to question the validity. Which you're clearly not. Your answer that "you don't care" indicates that your interpretation of his actions are designed to fit the narrative you and others on the far left espouse. There is no other narrative that will suffice, except the one you believe..........and absent of evidence. So the reality is that there is nothing, no degree of evidence to the contrary, or even exoneration that that will make this change. So sad for you.

[sigh]. You are exhausting, brother. I don't have disdain for the test. Its intent is to see if someone is starting down the path toward dementia, and he passed it, so whoopee! As I have so clearly said twice now, I don't care if he passed the test or not, and I am not saying he is mentally unfit (perhaps morally unfit though) to serve as President. I don't care if he passes any other more intrusive test. I only care about his actions, not the reasons for them. His actions as President are abhorrent, and whether he is mentally unstable, has a lack of a filter and good judgement, or is just a plain old a$$hole, it doesn't matter to me. It only matters that he be removed from office as soon as possible.

I THINK he will not make it to the 2020 election, but I am not guaranteeing that.

I THINK he will be impeached and convicted or he will resign before that process is through due to obstruction of justice, money laundering, likely perjury, and possibly conspiracy against the United States.

While it is important for the US and the world that he be removed from office, I will take him losing in 2020 as a good thing as long as the investigation still continues if they haven't reached a conclusion (well, honestly even without that...he just needs to be gone). I hope that they don't abandon the chase of Trump if Trump doesn't win a second term.

Trump is clearly guilty of something or else he wouldn't be instructing Bannon what to say to Congress, firing Comey, involving himself where ever possible to try to stop or curtail this investigation.

Trump - serial liar, criminal, racist, overall horrible human being.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Flagpole wrote:

Well now wrote:

Shut up, Flagpole. You spout off about Trump being a "serial liar" and "criminal" and all sorts of other nonsense, when you supported HILLARY F***NG CLINTON to be President. Whatever faults Trump has, multiply them times 10 and you may then get a sense of how rotten Hillary is.

Mueller may be looking at charges himself over Uranium One.

1) Hillary is not the President.

2) Hillary is a better person, despite her flaws, than Trump is.

3) Hillary is experienced at governing.

4) And this is the important one...it doesn't matter how horrible Hillary actually is. That doesn't mean that Trump's serial lying and criminal behavior and likely collusion with a foreign enemy nation is acceptable, because it isn't. We have never had a President accused of such horrible unlawful behavior.

The truth will be known, and Trump will pay the price.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

[sigh]. You are exhausting, brother. I don't have disdain for the test. Its intent is to see if someone is starting down the path toward dementia, and he passed it, so whoopee! As I have so clearly said twice now, I don't care if he passed the test or not, and I am not saying he is mentally unfit (perhaps morally unfit though) to serve as President. I don't care if he passes any other more intrusive test. I only care about his actions, not the reasons for them. His actions as President are abhorrent, and whether he is mentally unstable, has a lack of a filter and good judgement, or is just a plain old a$$hole, it doesn't matter to me. It only matters that he be removed from office as soon as possible.

I THINK he will not make it to the 2020 election, but I am not guaranteeing that.

I THINK he will be impeached and convicted or he will resign before that process is through due to obstruction of justice, money laundering, likely perjury, and possibly conspiracy against the United States.

While it is important for the US and the world that he be removed from office, I will take him losing in 2020 as a good thing as long as the investigation still continues if they haven't reached a conclusion (well, honestly even without that...he just needs to be gone). I hope that they don't abandon the chase of Trump if Trump doesn't win a second term.

Trump is clearly guilty of something or else he wouldn't be instructing Bannon what to say to Congress, firing Comey, involving himself where ever possible to try to stop or curtail this investigation.

Trump - serial liar, criminal, racist, overall horrible human being.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Was not the original intent to show ironclad evidence of collusion? Since that likely will not be shown, then fish around for something else........anything else to try and throw him out of office? All on a warrant that was likely illegally obtained or obtained under false pretenses to begin with? Would most CEO's be able to withstand that kind of scrutiny? Would you? No skeletons in your closet? I doubt it. Fish around long enough you're gonna find something. The issue is that the warrant was obtained under false pretenses, the FBI, HRC and the DNC were all complicit. Sounds like collusion to me. I'm not in denial about anything, I just don't see evidence of collusion coming . The left is just rabidly trying to get him out of office by any mechanism possible, nothing more will be sufficient. If that does indeed happen, which I think unlikely, I'm just fine with Pence as a replacement. And however you slice it, a former dog catcher is better than the option of having had HRC in there. And its OK............I abhor the lying, corrupt, incompetent HRC at least as much as you do Trump, quite probably more.

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

[sigh]. You are exhausting, brother. I don't have disdain for the test. Its intent is to see if someone is starting down the path toward dementia, and he passed it, so whoopee! As I have so clearly said twice now, I don't care if he passed the test or not, and I am not saying he is mentally unfit (perhaps morally unfit though) to serve as President. I don't care if he passes any other more intrusive test. I only care about his actions, not the reasons for them. His actions as President are abhorrent, and whether he is mentally unstable, has a lack of a filter and good judgement, or is just a plain old a$$hole, it doesn't matter to me. It only matters that he be removed from office as soon as possible.

I THINK he will not make it to the 2020 election, but I am not guaranteeing that.

I THINK he will be impeached and convicted or he will resign before that process is through due to obstruction of justice, money laundering, likely perjury, and possibly conspiracy against the United States.

While it is important for the US and the world that he be removed from office, I will take him losing in 2020 as a good thing as long as the investigation still continues if they haven't reached a conclusion (well, honestly even without that...he just needs to be gone). I hope that they don't abandon the chase of Trump if Trump doesn't win a second term.

Trump is clearly guilty of something or else he wouldn't be instructing Bannon what to say to Congress, firing Comey, involving himself where ever possible to try to stop or curtail this investigation.

Trump - serial liar, criminal, racist, overall horrible human being.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

My goal in life is to be exhausting. You sound like my long suffering wife.

nontrumper wrote:

It's like you're intentionally trying to not be well informed. Do you honestly expect Mueller to release evidence to the public during an on-going investigation? Bannon has not denied that he referred to Jr.'s meeting as "treasonous." This is just a small block of ice on the somewhat larger tip of the iceberg as it relates to Mueller's investigation.

Skeletons in the closest?! So money laundering, obstruction of justice, and possible charges related to collusion and coordination with Russia are just skeletons hanging in a laundry closet in Trump Tower? HAHAHA.

I don't think we can spell out the dossier more clearly, as it has been repeated multiple times, by multiple posters, but it is raw intelligence and even Steele himself doesn't think it is entirely true. Deza. Russia. Read up about it. It's there. And regardless, this investigation was not started by Steele's dossier. It came about from intelligence shared by our allies. Multiple allies.

Trump is f*cked.

Country over party.

Flagpole wrote:

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

Was not the original intent to show ironclad evidence of collusion? Since that likely will not be shown, then fish around for something else........anything else to try and throw him out of office? All on a warrant that was likely illegally obtained or obtained under false pretenses to begin with? Would most CEO's be able to withstand that kind of scrutiny? Would you? No skeletons in your closet? I doubt it. Fish around long enough you're gonna find something. The issue is that the warrant was obtained under false pretenses, the FBI, HRC and the DNC were all complicit. Sounds like collusion to me. I'm not in denial about anything, I just don't see evidence of collusion coming . The left is just rabidly trying to get him out of office by any mechanism possible, nothing more will be sufficient. If that does indeed happen, which I think unlikely, I'm just fine with Pence as a replacement. And however you slice it, a former dog catcher is better than the option of having had HRC in there. And its OK............I abhor the lying, corrupt, incompetent HRC at least as much as you do Trump, quite probably more.

Dude, unless you start to be rational, I will have to stop responding to you.

1) Hillary Clinton is not even close to the liar that Trump is...it is not even a contest. Trump has that won easily. He also has her beaten soundly on being more corrupt and more incompetent (actually, I didn't like Hillary all that much, but she was not incompetent at all...she was one of the most qualified people to ever run for President).

2) You seem pretty sure of yourself that collusion (conspiracy) will not be shown for Trump. Not sure why you are so certain of that. Evidence of collusion is already there...we will see if Mueller has more or if he feels that what we all know about already is enough to bring a charge. Trump is definitely not out of the woods with that.

3) Warrant was not illegally obtained. Sorry.

4) If you are the President of the United States, especially if you decide not to share your tax information, and you are suspected of collusion with RUSSIA, then too bad, brother. It is more than fair to go after financial records to see if there is a reason why you might be under the thumb of a foreign power. The special counsel has that purview. The President of the US should be under much greater scrutiny than any CEO, but it seems like you are accepting of corruption and illegal financial dealings. That is not right, brother. Yes, I would stand up to that kind of scrutiny. Of course I would. I have a couple of speeding tickets in my life...both times I was unaware I was speeding, but I was still at fault, and I have not broken any other laws. I even pay taxes on items I purchase from out of state that don't initially collect tax. And, I expect my President to be the same.

5) Liberals are not against Donald Trump because he is a Republican. We are against him because he is Donald Trump, and the reason we want him out of office is that he is constantly attacking American institutions, lying about absolutely everything, and he likely worked with a foreign power to help with his election. Really, only the last one is actionable, and that's why he is being investigated.

6) Mueller wouldn't be investigating if Trump didn't obstruct by firing Comey. He only has himself to blame for this type of scrutiny. Someone who is as crooked as Donald Trump has been should have known better than to run for President.

7) Donald Trump is a bad person and a criminal. You know it too or you wouldn't have brought up his not being able to withstand this type of scrutiny.

8) You do not have to like Hillary Clinton to also say you don't like Donald Trump, and you should not like Donald Trump. He is away from the White House at one of his properties almost a third of the time playing golf which costs American taxpayers a ton of money. He is the most dishonest person by far to ever be in the White House. He is chaos personified. Lindsay Graham is mystified. Mitch McConnell said that he doesn't even know what Trump's views are (that's not strong leadership). Trump spews hate and racism on a regular basis to the point that England didn't want him to come visit. The rest of the world sees him as a joke. He has pissed off at least half the planet, and that ultimately is not good for our national security...and, as the Mueller investigation will clearly show, he is a criminal. Find a mirror, brother and consider changing your world view.

To state again, if you don't post with some rational thought, don't expect comments from me. You are on the wrong side of this issue.

Count Chocula wrote:

obvious problem wrote:

In other words "the ends justify the means" which is the only sane argument left for supporting Trump at this point. All the rest is just trolling.

How is this "the ends justify the means"? There are several different positions that you are conflating:

1) One voted for Trump, but no longer supports him and thinks that are legal justifications to end his presidency

2) One voted for Trump, no longer supports him, but doesn't think there are legal means to end his presidency

3) One voted for Trump, continues to support him, but thinks there are legal justifications to end his presidency

4) One voted for Trump, continues to support him, and does not think there are legal justifications to end his presidency

Voting for someone in 2016 does not mean that you support them in 2018. Just because you don't actively support someone doesn't mean that you want to see them removed from office.

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

I also never said I "like" Donald Trump. I tolerate him because he's getting things done