Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

May have to dig into those details.

This isn't an undocumented immigrant taking a risk to cast a vote.

It's possibly checking a box to set up voter registration.

Doesn't say they voted unless I missed that part.

All the more reason for a federal voting system. Can't leave this to the states, right?

(And PA is a state that shockingly went for a Trump. Upsetting all models)

Russians

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Well, well, well. Democrat PA Secretary of State resigned yesterday after allowing thousands of illegals voting.

Don't go changing the story now. The original claim is MILLIONS of votes.

You have quite a few zeros to go.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Well, well, well. Democrat PA Secretary of State resigned yesterday after allowing thousands of illegals voting.

Don't go changing the story now. The original claim is MILLIONS of votes.

You have quite a few zeros to go.

No more zeros required to identify libbbtwats as slimy sub speci pieces of $hit.

It is evident.

You piece of $hit😆❗️

The Gallant Pig Man wrote:

Or they just skip that step and demand that we shut up.

I think it’s step 1 now.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Well, well, well. Democrat PA Secretary of State resigned yesterday after allowing thousands of illegals voting.

Don't go changing the story now. The original claim is MILLIONS of votes.

You have quite a few zeros to go.

California has millions of illegals who voted.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Don't go changing the story now. The original claim is MILLIONS of votes.

You have quite a few zeros to go.

California has millions of illegals who voted.

And the libbbtwats still LOST😆❗️

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Well, well, well. Democrat PA Secretary of State resigned yesterday after allowing thousands of illegals voting.

Thousands????? Learn to read your links: "44 voted in one election and 46 voted in more than one election"

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Don't go changing the story now. The original claim is MILLIONS of votes.

You have quite a few zeros to go.

California has millions of illegals who voted.

Evidently they all voted in red districts districts that chose Trump over Hillary by >10%.

Where R They wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

California has millions of illegals who voted.

Evidently they all voted in red districts districts that chose Trump over Hillary by >10%.

^THIS. The majority of illegals in California work on farms. Those farms are in heavily Republican voting districts. That also means that the business owners hiring them are most likely Republicans. So, how is that Trump handily won those districts?

Trump made moves to make health insurance more expensive.

Cutting subsidies. Not reaching out to get young healthy people signed up.

He owns it now.

When all of these voters see their premiums jacked up now they can't blame it on Obamacare.

What happened to letting it implode?

He's sabotoging it.

Red Farms wrote:

Where R They wrote:

Evidently they all voted in red districts districts that chose Trump over Hillary by >10%.

^THIS. The majority of illegals in California work on farms. Those farms are in heavily Republican voting districts. That also means that the business owners hiring them are most likely Republicans. So, how is that Trump handily won those districts?

for pete's sake, trump didn't win on economics. His economic plans are trade wars.

Trump won on the culture war. Rural people love the culture war - it's what they do. They care more about the culture war than their pocket.

oh never mind - I missed the point of your argument.

Please ignore my above post.

Apologies.

EAB

L L wrote:

Trump made moves to make health insurance more expensive.

Cutting subsidies. Not reaching out to get young healthy people signed up.

He owns it now.

When all of these voters see their premiums jacked up now they can't blame it on Obamacare.

What happened to letting it implode?

He's sabotoging it.

I think you're putting too much faith in the American people to recognize that Trump is forcing Obamacare to fail (which could have happened anyway eventually).

I'm disturbed that the president is only choosing to support the laws that he personally likes. If you want to get rid of the ACA, then do that. But don't sabotage a constitutional law just because you don't like it. That is irresponsible. Imagine if Trump decided to sabotage Social Security.

Count Chocula wrote:

L L wrote:

Trump made moves to make health insurance more expensive.

Cutting subsidies. Not reaching out to get young healthy people signed up.

He owns it now.

When all of these voters see their premiums jacked up now they can't blame it on Obamacare.

What happened to letting it implode?

He's sabotoging it.

I think you're putting too much faith in the American people to recognize that Trump is forcing Obamacare to fail (which could have happened anyway eventually).

I'm disturbed that the president is only choosing to support the laws that he personally likes. If you want to get rid of the ACA, then do that. But don't sabotage a constitutional law just because you don't like it. That is irresponsible. Imagine if Trump decided to sabotage Social Security.

well that's the tricky part. The trump admin is claiming, with some integrity, that the subsidies are not legal. I'm not sure how all that plays out.

And of course there is a long lasting understanding that the exec branch has wide discretion to enforce laws, because not every law can be enforced in a limited budget scenario.

best solution is for congress to fix this into a real law that the prez can't ignore.

This is what's going to happen:

In January, health insurance premiums are going to jump for everyone, with deductibles going up and/or it will cover less.

People will see this. They will feel it.

They know Congress failed to enact a new healthcare law.

They will know that Trump made orders to scale back subsidies.

Costs go up on Trump and this Congress' watch.

I think people will connect the dots.

L L wrote:

This is what's going to happen:

In January, health insurance premiums are going to jump for everyone, with deductibles going up and/or it will cover less.

People will see this. They will feel it.

They know Congress failed to enact a new healthcare law.

They will know that Trump made orders to scale back subsidies.

Costs go up on Trump and this Congress' watch.

I think people will connect the dots.

I'm sure some people will realize that, but I don't know how many people are closely paying attention.

This is anecdotal, but I know people who in 2012 complained about their insurance premiums rising due to "Obamacare", despite it not taking effect until 2014.

L L wrote:

This is what's going to happen:

In January, health insurance premiums are going to jump for everyone, with deductibles going up and/or it will cover less.

People will see this. They will feel it.

They know Congress failed to enact a new healthcare law.

They will know that Trump made orders to scale back subsidies.

Costs go up on Trump and this Congress' watch.

I think people will connect the dots.

no, doesn't work like that.

This year, the costs to consumers are locked in - can't change.

people will buy on the exchanges, 80% of them will have subsidized prices, done.

Next year many insurance companies will probably drop out unless congress gets them back their subsidies.

This year, the worst thing that could happen is that insurance companies will drop out now - they are allowed to if the subsidies go away.

This year is almost over.

Next year is only a couple months away.

Because of the uncertainty of not knowing what the law was going to be and the subsidy guarantees only being month-to-month, the renewals will likely be high.

What's locked in is the new rates that people haven't seen yet.

I am sure it will be the biggest jump in recent years.

Smaller paychecks are on their way.

Smaller paychecks (because of higher premiums) means lower consumer confidence and spending.

That may sway job numbers negative again. Unemployment is very low right now and is more likely to go up than down from here.

One year from now we may be looking at higher health costs that everyone will feel and slow economic growth. We may even be due for a recession.

October 2018 could be a bit ugly.

We may need a new war to distract us.

ok agreed.

At some point maybe the Dems should just stop trying to save the republicans - let them go hang themselves. take away all the healthcare. See how that goes at the ballot box. The Dems need to stop being set up.

it's just so many lives the repubs are f'ing over.