Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Trump fan boys look funny.

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/patrick-edward-mccaughey-charged-capitol-riot-222542341.html

agip wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Sounds like a good idea to me.

for many years right wingers have been very wrong on facts.

They simply believe false things.

Something has to change...democracy doesn't work if a third of voters believe utter lies.

I don't know how to change this...I suspect the answer will have to come from corporate america though. Not funding egregious Rs, like the ones who voted to overturn democracy this month.

Scare politicians straight, until they stop lying.

We need truth. We can deal with disagreements if they are couched in truth.

Easy to share your pessimism, and hopeful that there is some partial solution. However, very hard for me to be optimistic. Any functioning adult should, no matter how much Fox News is whispering in their ear, watch most Trump speeches/interviews and easily come away with impressions of (really extreme) dishonesty, narcissism, incompetence, shallowness, etc. And yet, over and over again, they don't. They can and do EASILY see the same flaws in people in their everyday lives, but ignore or deny it in a president (of all people!). Very hard to see how one fixes this dynamic in so many people.

Calamity Joe wrote:

rebooted wrote:

Sally, register your new name. Stop hiding.

Marietta talks trash about me. You really think we are the same. Seriously?

EVERYBODY talks trash about you. Surely you have not been left out of that party!

Dr. Racket wrote:

Whatever, it's a done deal anyways so the only thing to do is sit back and hope for a best case scenario.

The way the Paris Accord is structured, it's more like an "evolving deal" which I think is inherent in international diplomacy that will span many decades.

You are correct though that it lacks enforcement mechanisms, that is, a gentleman's agreement. It was largely the inclusion of enforcement terms that caused Kyoto's downfall, so diplomats settled for a deal that was possible, rather than hold out for perfect but not achievable.

Another common gripe is that it allows emerging countries to grow emissions commensurate with growing energy production for a period. This is necessary because no one is going to sign up to permanent third-world status.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Paradoxical wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoT95B90cwU&ab_channel=FoxNews

Watch AOC say we need to spend tax dollars on "deprogramming" Trump supporters.

Why does anyone care what she thinks? She's one of 435 House members and other than its leaders, they rank behind, the President, Vice-President, Senators and Governors. She won her election by receiving 110,000 votes.

Few Democrat politicians take her seriously.

Boogeywoman... brown girl from the coast

Sally Vix wrote:

rebooted wrote:

Sally, #pathetic

Trollminator and Flagpole. Have either of you guys been in prison? If so ... What was it like?

LOLz, get your head in the game trump lover

Montreal is still in effect today and it was just updated in 2019 to include HFC's as well as CFC's. It's still working!

Kyoto didn't meet all of its goals but it is still having an effect today as much of the international climate agreement infrastructure relies on the Conference of Parties, which came out of Kyoto.

If you are talking about the Paris "Green Climate Fund", the US has only chipped in $1 billion of its $3 billion pledge. So it's pretty disingenuous to say that China and India should "cough up several billion dollars".

But the Green Climate Fund is only a very small part of the Paris accords. A much larger part is the commitment to reduce emissions. In fact, your idea to "heavily subsidize green tech and green jobs and export that to other countries" is exactly what Paris says we should do.

In other news, Genesis has officially changed the title of one of their songs to "Noncitizen."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/21/politics/alien-biden-immigration-law/index.html

Sally Vix wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Why does anyone care what she thinks? She's one of 435 House members and other than its leaders, they rank behind, the President, Vice-President, Senators and Governors. She won her election by receiving 110,000 votes.

Few Democrat politicians take her seriously.

She is one of the very few non-House-leadership people who actually gets coverage in the mainstream media. No one cares what Democrat Bob in Cleveland says. They DO care what AOC says .

The only place I see coverage of her is on Fox News. They love going to to Obama then Hillary then AOC whenever there is damaging news about conservatives.

I also hate AOC and the whole rest of the Squad along with all of the progressives who were elected last Fall. I also don't like Boebert and Greene and the others who want to conceal carry in the halls of Congress, but that is another kettle of fish. In all things moderation.

Ihatejoe wrote:

I also hate AOC and the whole rest of the Squad along with all of the progressives who were elected last Fall. I also don't like Boebert and Greene and the others who want to conceal carry in the halls of Congress, but that is another kettle of fish. In all things moderation.

hoping this is satire. Otherwise, argh.

"In all things moderation"

but also

"I hate AOC and the whole rest of the squad" (despite the fact I agree with them on 8/10ths of policy)

But yeah, remember, don't take extreme positions. Be moderate. In all things. But hate people who are 80% friends. Got it?

Ihatejoe wrote:

I also hate AOC and the whole rest of the Squad along with all of the progressives who were elected last Fall. I also don't like Boebert and Greene and the others who want to conceal carry in the halls of Congress, but that is another kettle of fish. In all things moderation.

Unlike the Senate, the House is designed to include some representatives with more radical viewpoints. AOC represents a district in Queens and her constituents were apparently pleased with her first term because they sent her back again. That's who she speaks for. Greene represents a very different constituency.

We have a very diverse country and it seems like having all viewpoints included, even more radical ones, is a good thing. AOC has to work with people with different agendas and viewpoints to get anything done. She has no real power on her own and Boebert and Green will need to learn that too if they want to be effective

As for Pelosi, despite the right trying to make her into a radical, no one could stay in a position of power for as long as she has unless they were a pragmatist, first and foremost.

agip wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Sounds like a good idea to me.

for many years right wingers have been very wrong on facts.

They simply believe false things.

Something has to change...democracy doesn't work if a third of voters believe utter lies.

I don't know how to change this...I suspect the answer will have to come from corporate america though. Not funding egregious Rs, like the ones who voted to overturn democracy this month.

Scare politicians straight, until they stop lying.

We need truth. We can deal with disagreements if they are couched in truth.

I wish we could deprogram the lies out of left wingers, like the lie that Trump's policies (not Obama's) put immigrant children in cages, the lie that Trump called neo-nazi's "fine people", the lie that Trump called immigrants (not ms-13 members) "animals," the lie that Trump's covid-19 response was ineffective even though Biden proposed the same things Trump did and the states with the worst outcomes were all Democrat-run, the lie of Trump's prid quo pro that lead to his impeachment, the lie that he incited the capitol breach, the lie that the US is "systemically racist," the lie that gun control works, the lie that you can keep your health plan under Obamacare, the lie that BLM actually cares about black lives (not just the ones that can be used to reinforce a certain political narrative).

If only we could just deprogram those lies that would be great. Oh wait, no I actually believe in free-speech and common decency so I would never argue that we should be spending tax dollars on converting Liberals - and the fact that you would not outright condemn this proposal by multiple politicians so far shows your lack of morality. I've said it once on this board - liberals do not care about morality, they only care about power.

Marietta Tar Heel wrote:

In other news, Genesis has officially changed the title of one of their songs to "Noncitizen."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/21/politics/alien-biden-immigration-law/index.html

Debate: which movie was better Noncitizen or the sequel, Noncitizens?

no, it's not good to have 'all viewpoints' represented.

The nation is not helped having Green in congress, and would not benefit from having, say, the grand sphinx manticore of the Klan in congress.

Paradoxical wrote:

Marietta Tar Heel wrote:

In other news, Genesis has officially changed the title of one of their songs to "Noncitizen."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/21/politics/alien-biden-immigration-law/index.html

Debate: which movie was better Noncitizen or the sequel, Noncitizens?

The original, of course.

Mr. Biden, tear down this wall.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/biden-border-wall-executive-order/2021/01/20/5f472456-5b32-11eb-aaad-93988621dd28_story.html

Paradoxical wrote:

I wish we could deprogram the lies out of left wingers, like the lie that Trump's policies (not Obama's) put immigrant children in cages,

Family separation was a Trump policy. Sessions announced the new policy on camera. Then he implemented the new policy. The video of Sessions announcing new policy is out there for anyone to see.

Obama never, ever, ever had a policy that babies should be taken from their mothers at the border.

But Trump did. He kidnapped those children and now Biden has signed an executive order that says government agencies have to do everything possible to get those kids back with their parents.

Trump did say that neo- Nazis and Proud Boys were " fine people" Millions watch him say it. So... it's not a lie ?