Trollminator wrote:
https://twitter.com/morethanmysle/status/1330172951493226504?s=21
critic 100 wrote:
If Trump is not a racist, then why is he calling voter fraud in densley black counties in swing states?
HERE YA GO BOYS, A LINK THAT NO LIBERAL WILL WATCH OR POST. LOL!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjAvw_aplKQ
the trumpists are trying to stall until the electoral college meets. Remember that. They don't mind losing case after case because their goal is not just to toss votes for Joe, it is to prevent the EC from getting to 270.
With that in mind, they lost another one. Trumpists, come back into the light. Stop this.
https://twitter.com/jgeltzer/status/1330290635614646273?s=20
Why does our President have to embarrass himself and beg for swing states to not count ballots and just call him the winner?
The last acr of a desperate man will be to tell his supporters to take up arms and kill every non Trump supporters. Civil war comes next. What a nasty. mean man.
Yep. Trump got more votes from blacks in this election compared to 2016.
2% in 2016, 3% in 2020. That made all the difference in the world.
Flagpole continues his losing streak wrote:
critic 100 wrote:
If Trump is not a racist, then why is he calling voter fraud in densley black counties in swing states?
Another loser liberal who can't think for themselves and uses race when they run out of bullets in a discussion. Trump was cheated where he was cheated, has nothing to do with race. In fact, he got more black votes than he got in 2016. Feel better now loser?
Absolute smackdown in Pennsylvania court today (Saturday - 11/21).
Trump's lawyers have to be worried about motions for sanctions. How far out on a limb will you put your career and standing in the bar for Trump? I suspect its rather far, if you knew there was a lot of future, high profile work from him. But would you risk serious sanction for a guy who can turn on allies in a second for nothing more than slight disagreement?
Fishsmiff wrote:
Absolute smackdown in Pennsylvania court today (Saturday - 11/21).
Trump's lawyers have to be worried about motions for sanctions. How far out on a limb will you put your career and standing in the bar for Trump? I suspect its rather far, if you knew there was a lot of future, high profile work from him. But would you risk serious sanction for a guy who can turn on allies in a second for nothing more than slight disagreement?
agip wrote:
the trumpists are trying to stall until the electoral college meets. Remember that. They don't mind losing case after case because their goal is not just to toss votes for Joe, it is to prevent the EC from getting to 270.
With that in mind, they lost another one. Trumpists, come back into the light. Stop this.
Flagpole continues his losing streak wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
https://twitter.com/morethanmysle/status/1330172951493226504?s=21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq7TeUJwQD4
Watch the only honest people who know that there was election fraud eviscerate Biden and Harris in a factual format....versus the lying Dumocrats.
con-lateral wrote:
agip wrote:
the trumpists are trying to stall until the electoral college meets. Remember that. They don't mind losing case after case because their goal is not just to toss votes for Joe, it is to prevent the EC from getting to 270.
With that in mind, they lost another one. Trumpists, come back into the light. Stop this.
The EC would work the following way if a state did not cast electoral votes, or Congress decided to thrown them out because there were two conflicting set of votes provided. The method is the same way the Senate works when senators chose not vote.
If all states and DC cast votes then 270 of 538 votes are needed to win (over 50%).
If a state with 20 votes is out of the math then 260 of 518 votes are needed to win.
To drive over 50% means that EC votes in Biden states would have to add up to 75 or greater. Biden would be at 231 votes with Trump at his 232 he currently has and that cannot be increased "swinging" a state over to his side.
Trump would stop 6 Biden states for having their EC votes counted, and that is juts not going to happen. If Trump even managed to kill the EC votes for a single state then it means the Electoral College needs to be dumped because a more intelligent bad actor than Trump could in the future overthrown an election by manipulating the EC.
Here are the six states Trump would need to kill off. They are ranked by voting gap with the smallest gap first and largest gap last (increasing level of difficulty).
AZ (11 EC votes, Biden +11k votes),
GA (16 , Biden +12k),
WI (10, Biden +21k),
NV (6, Biden +33k),
PA (20, Biden +81K)
MI (16, Biden +154k)
The above totals to 79 EC votes.
agip wrote:
you sure about this? I think the number is 270, no matter if some states don't submit electors.
agip wrote:
con-lateral wrote:
agip wrote:
the trumpists are trying to stall until the electoral college meets. Remember that. They don't mind losing case after case because their goal is not just to toss votes for Joe, it is to prevent the EC from getting to 270.
With that in mind, they lost another one. Trumpists, come back into the light. Stop this.
The EC would work the following way if a state did not cast electoral votes, or Congress decided to thrown them out because there were two conflicting set of votes provided. The method is the same way the Senate works when senators chose not vote.
If all states and DC cast votes then 270 of 538 votes are needed to win (over 50%).
If a state with 20 votes is out of the math then 260 of 518 votes are needed to win.
To drive over 50% means that EC votes in Biden states would have to add up to 75 or greater. Biden would be at 231 votes with Trump at his 232 he currently has and that cannot be increased "swinging" a state over to his side.
Trump would stop 6 Biden states for having their EC votes counted, and that is juts not going to happen. If Trump even managed to kill the EC votes for a single state then it means the Electoral College needs to be dumped because a more intelligent bad actor than Trump could in the future overthrown an election by manipulating the EC.
Here are the six states Trump would need to kill off. They are ranked by voting gap with the smallest gap first and largest gap last (increasing level of difficulty).
AZ (11 EC votes, Biden +11k votes),
GA (16 , Biden +12k),
WI (10, Biden +21k),
NV (6, Biden +33k),
PA (20, Biden +81K)
MI (16, Biden +154k)
The above totals to 79 EC votes.
you sure about this? I think the number is 270, no matter if some states don't submit electors.
Quality posters only wrote:
Who you got, the bikers or the liberal whiners? I'm thinking the bikers in a landslide.
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Trump's only hope is to keep his current 232 EC votes and try to drive Biden to 231 or less. And that requires the EC votes of six Biden states to be dropped.
By the way, Congress has the option to toss out a states Electoral Votes if two conflicting sets of EC votes are sent.
From the link below, "If the chambers agree to reject a particular slate, then those electoral votes do not count." This means dropped from the math ... excluded from the denominator.
http://osaka.law.miami.edu/~schnably/ConLawI(T)-NatlTaskForce,ElectoralCountAct.pdf
KI52 wrote:
If states did not submit electors would this not be the same as if a 3rd party candidate had won some states and prevented any candidate from winning 270? The election would be determined by the contingency procedure established in the 12th Amendment.
critic 100 wrote:
Why does our President have to embarrass himself and beg for swing states to not count ballots and just call him the winner?
The last [act] of a desperate man will be to tell his supporters to take up arms and kill every non Trump [supporter]. Civil war comes next. What a nasty. mean man.
con-lateral wrote:
Trump's only hope is to keep his current 232 EC votes and try to drive Biden to 231 or less. And that requires the EC votes of six Biden states to be dropped.
By the way, Congress has the option to toss out a states Electoral Votes if two conflicting sets of EC votes are sent.
From the link below, "If the chambers agree to reject a particular slate, then those electoral votes do not count." This means dropped from the math ... excluded from the denominator.
http://osaka.law.miami.edu/~schnably/ConLawI(T)-NatlTaskForce,ElectoralCountAct.pdf
Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.
