Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

semsurrrrrrrrr wrote:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-reports-over-15-000-151825722.html

I was a bit shocked when I saw that too. But I shouldn't be. It's simple math. Florida's exponential growth curve keeps getting steeper and they aren't doing anything substantive to stop the climb.

Hopefully, more Florida residents are choosing on their own to stay at home.

But has the governor there done anything at all to flatten the curve?

Disney World just opened yesterday.

Fat hurts wrote:

semsurrrrrrrrr wrote:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-reports-over-15-000-151825722.html

I was a bit shocked when I saw that too. But I shouldn't be. It's simple math. Florida's exponential growth curve keeps getting steeper and they aren't doing anything substantive to stop the climb.

Hopefully, more Florida residents are choosing on their own to stay at home.

But has the governor there done anything at all to flatten the curve?

Disney World just opened yesterday.

Hmm. Maybe I should have looked at the actual curve before I said anything. The 7-day average did get a little flatter in the past couple of weeks even though it is still rising. But this huge jump today won't help.

Still, for those of you who know Florida better than I, I'd love to know if the governor is doing anything at all or is he leaving it up to cities and counties?

semsurrrrrrrrr wrote:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-reports-over-15-000-151825722.html

Meanwhile, at Disney Florida.

Florida will cover well over 20,000 in a few weeks.

Note the moran in the link below wearing his mask in this hands. And the kid wearing his mask over his chin. And other people wearing chin masks. ... Visitors to Disney on reopening fay reported that there was no wiping down of handholds or rails at any rides. No one can be seen wearing gloves. Disaster awaits.

Fat hurts wrote:

semsurrrrrrrrr wrote:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-reports-over-15-000-151825722.html

I was a bit shocked when I saw that too. But I shouldn't be. It's simple math. Florida's exponential growth curve keeps getting steeper and they aren't doing anything substantive to stop the climb.

Hopefully, more Florida residents are choosing on their own to stay at home.

But has the governor there done anything at all to flatten the curve?

Disney World just opened yesterday.

I’m ready to make a prediction - trump is going to lose in Florida. With the polling of seniors showing such an extreme swing and the governor’s total recklessness, bodies are only beginning to pile up. Unless COVID or Republicans prevent people from voting he is going to have a very hard time winning here.

Fat hurts wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

I was a bit shocked when I saw that too. But I shouldn't be. It's simple math. Florida's exponential growth curve keeps getting steeper and they aren't doing anything substantive to stop the climb.

Hopefully, more Florida residents are choosing on their own to stay at home.

But has the governor there done anything at all to flatten the curve?

Disney World just opened yesterday.

Hmm. Maybe I should have looked at the actual curve before I said anything. The 7-day average did get a little flatter in the past couple of weeks even though it is still rising. But this huge jump today won't help.

Still, for those of you who know Florida better than I, I'd love to know if the governor is doing anything at all or is he leaving it up to cities and counties?

He’s ducking every question and has lashed out when pushed on the subject. It’s a total sh!tshow across the state with very different guidelines and state-wide reporting lacking.

Trollminator wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

I was a bit shocked when I saw that too. But I shouldn't be. It's simple math. Florida's exponential growth curve keeps getting steeper and they aren't doing anything substantive to stop the climb.

Hopefully, more Florida residents are choosing on their own to stay at home.

But has the governor there done anything at all to flatten the curve?

Disney World just opened yesterday.

I’m ready to make a prediction - trump is going to lose in Florida. With the polling of seniors showing such an extreme swing and the governor’s total recklessness, bodies are only beginning to pile up. Unless COVID or Republicans prevent people from voting he is going to have a very hard time winning here.

I had an interesting conversation with my MIL and FIL today. They have been Trump lovers going back to the 1980s when he was building casinos and they've loved his celebrity since. They both said they were going to tear up the ballot this year.

Trollminator wrote:

The issue of schools reopening is not an easy one for many obvious reasons, but the trump klan continuing to disregard the health risks and intentionally contradicting each other to create chaos and a total clusterfk if just criminal. I’m going to stick to this - every extra American life lost in excess of what the US curve should have looked like if response had been similar to most of Europe, has been unnecessary. I don’t know what that number is but it’s definitely tens of thousands of deaths by now. The president is responsible.

https://twitter.com/ktbrun104/status/1282309622339194880?s=21

Yes!

And what do you do about it?

I think it would behoove the democratic party to have a prominent ad going into the election featuring an Epidemiologist explaining exactly what you said in plain, simple terms, and laying out the consequence with stark numbers and even starker images of the victims in the background. THe takewaway would be that now that we know, and we do know, we cannot allow this for another four years.

Second, I think the dems need to reach out in a new manner to the demographic that got Trump elected, and simplify their message and do so in a way they can relate to. Trump did tap into a massive part of the populace that feels unheard and un-represented, and it's not just devising plans that will help them, it is selling them those plans so they understand it and believe the messenger. It doesn't help get the plan realized if the message is delivered in a way that they feel like they are being conned.

Lastly, there is a real lot to be learned by Trump's success. I think it would be wise and necessary to do so. HIs shtick is simply this: motivating by creating a belief that someone is stealing that which is rightfully yours is way more powerful than a nebulous promise to improve your situation. That is it in a nutshell and he hits that right out of the park. And try it out on yourself and you'll see how much more energizing fear of getting stolen from is than maybe getting something.

So, to do that, dems need to play that back on Trump - that his reign has served to steal their most precious assets: their loved ones (to a mismanaged pandemic response), their jobs, their health, their respect, their right to end income inequality, their right to a taxation system that stops favoring trump and his wealthy cronies, etc. And play the trump game as well by portraying the opposite side as demonic: trump and his cronies represent the billionaire money class mercilessly ripping off the working class and under-served. Make anything else seem preposterous: 'Trump is not the people's billionaire'

TTH wrote:

I had an interesting conversation with my MIL and FIL today. They have been Trump lovers going back to the 1980s when he was building casinos and they've loved his celebrity since. They both said they were going to tear up the ballot this year.

Not quite sure what that means--not vote at all? not vote by mail?--but I note that Dems in FL are running well ahead of Republicans in registering to vote by mail this year. That's a real change because in the past GOP candidates in FL have benefited by the mail balloting.

Yeah, about that... wrote:

TTH wrote:

I had an interesting conversation with my MIL and FIL today. They have been Trump lovers going back to the 1980s when he was building casinos and they've loved his celebrity since. They both said they were going to tear up the ballot this year.

Not quite sure what that means--not vote at all? not vote by mail?

Not vote at all by tearing up the ballot. My thought was that this would help Biden but I may not be considering everything.

Another case of Trump shooting himself in the foot.

He has been going on rants being against voting by mail.

So people supporting Trump won’t be likely to vote by mail. He’s suppressing his own voters.

this is it wrote:

https://imgur.com/gallery/UlPFjHX

We also don’t send children to Home Depot.

This can't be good for Trump, if it happens. Although most people I think are pretty much done with the Mueller investigation and the Russia probe, Mueller will undercut Trump's tired witch hunt narrative. I would expect that he would defend the integrity of his investigation very effectively, although he wasn't such a great witness when he testified before Congress previously. His op-ed in the Washington Post may be a sign that he's finished with staying quiet, and he's obviously pi**ed that Trump let Stone get away with it.

And the fact that Graham is going to allow Mueller's testimony may be a sign that he's looking to put some daylight between him and Trump. I have to say that the one ad showing Graham absolutely slamming Trump and, at the same time, praising Biden is very powerful. It's hard for Graham to now support Trump over Biden and retain any measure of self-respect, if you've seen the ad.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/12/politics/lindsey-graham-robert-mueller/index.html

Rest assured Graham only intends to bury his head even further up trump‘s anus at that hearing. He just tweeted recently that he thought a Stone pardon would be justified. If you kicked trump in the balls you’d knock Graham’s teeth out. He is one of the most untrustworthy people in government and has no backbone nor principles.

And Mueller needs to grow a pair too and cut out the clean cut objective guy bullish!t that has no place in current politics. If he wants to make a difference in this 11th hour he needs to come in guns blazing and speak his mind with confidence. He doesn’t seem to understand these people are trying to tear down the whole constitutional foundation that his career has benefitted from. It’s fkn personal for anyone with any shred of ethics to go after trump aggressively. We are way past middle ground stuff here, it’s been a binary war since 2016. The Lincoln project people seem to get that. Either you try to destroy trump now or get swallowed up soon enough by his corruption.

Trollminator wrote:

The issue of schools reopening is not an easy one for many obvious reasons, but the trump klan continuing to disregard the health risks and intentionally contradicting each other to create chaos and a total clusterfk if just criminal. I’m going to stick to this - every extra American life lost in excess of what the US curve should have looked like if response had been similar to most of Europe, has been unnecessary. I don’t know what that number is but it’s definitely tens of thousands of deaths by now. The president is responsible.

https://twitter.com/ktbrun104/status/1282309622339194880?s=21

The CDC disagrees.

"Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Director Robert Redfield said Thursday that the health risks of keeping schools closed are greater than those of opening them, amid a push by President Trump to have students in classrooms this fall."

"I'm of the point of view as a public health leader in this nation, that having the schools actually closed is a greater public health threat to the children than having the schools reopen," Redfield told The Hill's Steve Clemons.

“I don’t think we should go overboard in trying to develop a system that doesn’t recognize the reality that this virus really is relatively benign to those of us that are under the age of 20,” Redfield said.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

The CDC disagrees.

"Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Director Robert Redfield said Thursday that the health risks of keeping schools closed are greater than those of opening them, amid a push by President Trump to have students in classrooms this fall."

"I'm of the point of view as a public health leader in this nation, that having the schools actually closed is a greater public health threat to the children than having the schools reopen," Redfield told The Hill's Steve Clemons.

“I don’t think we should go overboard in trying to develop a system that doesn’t recognize the reality that this virus really is relatively benign to those of us that are under the age of 20,” Redfield said.

Interesting, and a useful addition to the discussion.

Thanks.