Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

6/29 Data

The US tied its cyclical low in deaths. In terms of a rolling 7 day average go daily deaths. So that's good news.

And the world had its lowest rolling 7 day average in around two weeks.

Can't be too disappointed with those numbers.

GA is seeing a rather severe spike in cases...but continued falling in deaths.

And India's 7 day average hit a new high. Deaths are still very low per capita in that country but given its dense urban core and billion plus population...could get ugly there.

The continued story in the US is whether the surge in cases will result in materially more deaths. So far it has not.

From Goldman, trying to put a number on the dollar cost of the moran anti-mask Trumpers. It's a very, very, very large number:

“Face mask mandate could potentially substitute for lockdowns that would otherwise subtract nearly 5% from GDP.”

agip wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

One thing he should have done was to read his damn PDB. That's his job.

Second, he should fire somebody for not bringing this to his attention and briefing him on the quality of the intelligence and possible response options.

Bolton is saying he personally briefed trump on the bounty situation.

It just doesn't matter what you do to try to inform the president. He's not listening.

"Several unnamed officials told the Associated Press that Trump was briefed on Russia's decision to place bounties on U.S. troops fighting against the Taliban in 2019. The briefings included at least one written report in his daily intelligence briefing and an in-person briefing from Bolton in March, during which the allegations were the sole focus of the meeting, the outlet said Monday."

When I saw Bolton on the Sunday shows he seemed to deny direct knowledge of the bounty story. Has he changed his tune?

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

And enter Matt and other minions to engage in their usual xenophobic fear mongering.

https://twitter.com/mattgaetz/status/1277628850130780160?s=20

The homeowners had every right to defend their family & property. What the media doesn't want you to know is that the "peaceful protesters" who the couple confronted had just violently smashed through a locked gate to gain access to the private street they lived on.

There was property damage & criminal trespass.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbsuQbvXgAc75fH?format=png&name=small

I don't know the specific legal aspects of this, but they "should not" have a right to pull a gun on these people.

When you see a crime you call the police. Otherwise, you get Ahmaud Arbery type situations where idiots like the two in the picture start executing people they don't like.

Patriotic Americans agree always wrote:

Democrats think Biden is going to win every electoral vote.

That is hilarious!!!!!

Keep on believing those polls!!!!

Hahahahahaha!!!!

The meltdowns by democrat trash is going to be outstanding!!!!

Will you blame the Russians or systemic racism????

Democrats lose again!!!!

You must be a crazy person. No one is saying Biden will win all of the electoral votes. It is possible Trump won't win any, because it is possible he will drop out, but Biden will not win them all no matter what.

Biden wins if he is breathing.

I'm sure glad you are not going to be the next president. The whole point is that if Russia was targeting US troops then that is an act of war in and of itself.

Fat hurts wrote:

I don't know the specific legal aspects of this, but they "should not" have a right to pull a gun on these people.

Pointing a presumably loaded gun at apparently non-threatening people, as the woman appears to be doing, is poor gun safety practice. Standing by for the NRA to issue a statement to this effect.

Patriotic Americans agree always wrote:

Democrats think Biden is going to win every electoral vote.

That is hilarious!!!!!

Keep on believing those polls!!!!

Hahahahahaha!!!!

The meltdowns by democrat trash is going to be outstanding!!!!

Will you blame the Russians or systemic racism????

Democrats lose again!!!!

Would you be supporting your guy if he was black?

Fat hurts wrote:

agip wrote:

I guess this is the best answer - if you think that the bounty issue was serious enough to put sanctions on Putin or somehow otherwise disrupt the US-Russia diplomatic relationship, then you have a legit beef with Trump.

I am not able to say if the matter is big enough to purposefully damage relations between the two countries. I think a lot of dirty stuff goes in in war...not sure where the line is.

I'm sure glad you are not going to be the next president. The whole point is that if Russia was targeting US troops then that is an act of war in and of itself.

I’m old enough to remember when we armed and paid multiple proxy forces to kill Russians. All over the world.

But I’m coming around to seeing this the conventional way.

But I will say that presidents have to ignore gross offenses all the time.

Obama had to look the other way and so did every president all down the line. The cost of retaliation is often too high to pay.

Bernstein:

In his phone exchanges with Putin, the sources reported, the President talked mostly about himself, frequently in over-the-top, self-aggrandizing terms: touting his "unprecedented" success in building the US economy; asserting in derisive language how much smarter and "stronger" he is than "the imbeciles" and "weaklings" who came before him in the presidency (especially Obama); reveling in his experience running the Miss Universe Pageant in Moscow, and obsequiously courting Putin's admiration and approval. Putin "just outplays" him, said a high-level administration official -- comparing the Russian leader to a chess grandmaster and Trump to an occasional player of checkers. While Putin "destabilizes the West," said this source, the President of the United States "sits there and thinks he can build himself up enough as a businessman and tough guy that Putin will respect him." (At times, the Putin-Trump conversations sounded like "two guys in a steam bath," a source added.)

agip wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

I'm sure glad you are not going to be the next president. The whole point is that if Russia was targeting US troops then that is an act of war in and of itself.

I’m old enough to remember when we armed and paid multiple proxy forces to kill Russians. All over the world.

But I’m coming around to seeing this the conventional way.

But I will say that presidents have to ignore gross offenses all the time.

Obama had to look the other way and so did every president all down the line. The cost of retaliation is often too high to pay.

When did Obama look the other way while American lives were targeted by a foreign power?

Brandishing a weapon as a threat when you are not acting in self defense is a crime.

It can be a misdemeanor or even a felony.

agip wrote:

I’m old enough to remember when we armed and paid multiple proxy forces to kill Russians. All over the world.

But I’m coming around to seeing this the conventional way.

But I will say that presidents have to ignore gross offenses all the time.

Obama had to look the other way and so did every president all down the line. The cost of retaliation is often too high to pay.

You are wrong on this topic, brother. Retaliation comes in many forms, and in none of them is the aggressor invited to a summit. Trump is unfit to be President. This is just another in a long line of reasons why.

L L wrote:

Brandishing a weapon as a threat when you are not acting in self defense is a crime.

It can be a misdemeanor or even a felony.

But they thought they were in danger, just believe them!

Trollminator wrote:

L L wrote:

Brandishing a weapon as a threat when you are not acting in self defense is a crime.

It can be a misdemeanor or even a felony.

But they thought they were in danger, just believe them!

The problem is that "I thought I was in danger" has become an affirmative defense for cold-blooded murder.

This must stop!

Flagpole wrote:

agip wrote:

I’m old enough to remember when we armed and paid multiple proxy forces to kill Russians. All over the world.

But I’m coming around to seeing this the conventional way.

But I will say that presidents have to ignore gross offenses all the time.

Obama had to look the other way and so did every president all down the line. The cost of retaliation is often too high to pay.

You are wrong on this topic, brother. Retaliation comes in many forms, and in none of them is the aggressor invited to a summit. Trump is unfit to be President. This is just another in a long line of reasons why.

this seems to be a fair summary of where I am on this:

PS: if you don't know Susan Hennessy, get to know her stuff. Relentlessly good.

Fat hurts wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

But they thought they were in danger, just believe them!

The problem is that "I thought I was in danger" has become an affirmative defense for cold-blooded murder.

This must stop!

Ah, but then it goes into political danger zone with 2nd amendment... when common sense issues become politicized you see a lot of stupid outcomes

Just as I was curious about why the percentage of people dying in New York was so high back in March and April... I am now very curious as to why so few people are getting Covid 19 in New York (and actually much of the North Eastern US). Are they all just doing a much better job of social distancing and mask wearing than everyone else? Seems mighty unlikely.

I am honestly curious about it. I don't have any sort of answer but it seems to indicate to me that there is some sort of herd immunity thing happening even though that also seems unlikely.

This virus continues to be perplexing which is the main reason everyone (including health experts) seem so confused about it.

couldn't continue waiting at least 5 minutes wrote:

I am now very curious as to why so few people are getting Covid 19 in New York (and actually much of the North Eastern US). Are they all just doing a much better job of social distancing and mask wearing than everyone else?

Yes. It's not rocket science. There are certainly aspects of the virus that are still perplexing, but how to minimize transmission isn't one of them.