Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

the problem with an undisciplined, loose cannon, unstable, tweeting president. He literally could get us all killed because he can't shut his mouth.

https://twitter.com/SykesCharlie/status/890283649182072832

He thinks it's a strategy of being unpredictable, but in reality it's uncontrolled impulsiveness. He doesn't understand his role and he doesn't understand political process. A good leader and good boss doesn't go behind his own team's back to make critical announcements to the public without letting them know first. Conservatives, here's a true beta coward for you.

eric a blair wrote:

the problem with an undisciplined, loose cannon, unstable, tweeting president. He literally could get us all killed because he can't shut his mouth.

https://twitter.com/SykesCharlie/status/890283649182072832

So they voted on a straight repeal of Obamacare and it didn't pass, even with a Republican majority. (7 Republicans and all 48 Democrats voted against the repeal)

All of these years of complaining about it.

They passed the same bill a couple years ago that Obama vetoed, but now that they have a Republican president, they don't really want to pass it, because Trump will sign it.

So what do the Republicans stand for?

This is a massive failure for their party. The party of no.

They can't come up with a better plan and they won't repeal the one they campaigned so much against.

I think they realize that Obamacare is good and they can't top it.

They cannot govern.

And Trump can't lead.

So much losing. But I'm not tired of it.

L L wrote:

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So what do the Republicans stand for?

This is a massive failure for their party. The party of no.

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This is not a massive failure for conservatives because Trump has now done a great service for the country by showing us exactly what the Republican party stands for - big government socialism - which is what many of us suspected but could not determine with absolute certainty because of all the excuses they used.

Now, no excuses, the masks are off. Republican Establishment = Democrat.

The Republican party will suffer badly if they can't fix this soon, but Democrats shouldn't celebrate because this means conservatives need to rebuild the Republican party and when we are done, then the party will actually stand for something and won't be so easy to push around.

You think is bad for Trump. Nope. This is bad for the Republican Establishment. Very, very bad for them.

gary you have no idea what the word socialism means

but go ahead and use it - one could say that it takes the mask off your ignorance and intellectual laziness

as for the result - if the GOP can't kill off obamacare, most likely a whole crop of super right wingers will primary the current repubs. Will be a GOP civil war and not be good for either the GOP or the country.

The republican primary voters are one of the biggest problems in the nation. They are far, far to the right of the nation but they vote. So they skew the repub candidate way more right than would be good.

US candidates should be within the 40 yard lines. But the repubs are edging toward the 25.

eric a blair wrote:

gary you have no idea what the word socialism means

but go ahead and use it - one could say that it takes the mask off your ignorance and intellectual laziness

OK.

Republican Establishment = Democrat = big government fascists, as in direct government control over private health care.

Better?

I completely disagree. But I have to say, that's one of your better responses. Well done.

eric a blair wrote:

as for the result - if the GOP can't kill off obamacare, most likely a whole crop of super right wingers will primary the current repubs. Will be a GOP civil war and not be good for either the GOP or the country.

The republican primary voters are one of the biggest problems in the nation. They are far, far to the right of the nation but they vote. So they skew the repub candidate way more right than would be good.

US candidates should be within the 40 yard lines. But the repubs are edging toward the 25.

This whole democracy thing just doesn't sit well with Democrats does it? You can't stand any system that allows people who disagree with you to participate in governing the country.

DiscoGary wrote:

eric a blair wrote:

as for the result - if the GOP can't kill off obamacare, most likely a whole crop of super right wingers will primary the current repubs. Will be a GOP civil war and not be good for either the GOP or the country.

The republican primary voters are one of the biggest problems in the nation. They are far, far to the right of the nation but they vote. So they skew the repub candidate way more right than would be good.

US candidates should be within the 40 yard lines. But the repubs are edging toward the 25.

This whole democracy thing just doesn't sit well with Democrats does it? You can't stand any system that allows people who disagree with you to participate in governing the country.

that's an interesting question. The low turnout in the US has skewed politics - it has elected people relatively few people want. And that's why the GOP wants to reduce the number of people who vote even further - it's the only way they can win. And the GOP will do ANYTHING to win. Even damage democracy.

So you are wrong - democracy is great - that's why the country has been improving itself over the years. But it's a problem when a small minority of the poeple elect people. the leaders aren't representative of the nation.

DiscoGary wrote:

eric a blair wrote:

gary you have no idea what the word socialism means

but go ahead and use it - one could say that it takes the mask off your ignorance and intellectual laziness

OK.

Republican Establishment = Democrat = big government fascists, as in direct government control over private health care.

Better?

now you're trolling me so I won't reply with meaning.

really good piece from an anti-trump conservative. Basic thesis is the complete stupidty of Trump's War on Sessions.

but the subtext is what a stupid, loathsome, poor leader trump is.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/26/opinion/donald-trump-jeff-sessions.html?_r=0

Hopefully this conservative revolution will result in a 3rd major party. Neither of the two parties seem to get anything done these days. Having a party that is comprised of moderates would eliminate the us versus them mentality that pervades Washington.

L L wrote:

So they voted on a straight repeal of Obamacare and it didn't pass, even with a Republican majority. (7 Republicans and all 48 Democrats voted against the repeal)

All of these years of complaining about it.

They passed the same bill a couple years ago that Obama vetoed, but now that they have a Republican president, they don't really want to pass it, because Trump will sign it.

So what do the Republicans stand for?

This is a massive failure for their party. The party of no.

They can't come up with a better plan and they won't repeal the one they campaigned so much against.

I think they realize that Obamacare is good and they can't top it.

They cannot govern.

And Trump can't lead.

So much losing. But I'm not tired of it.

How long did it take for ObamaCare to pass. How long has it been for Trump? And it's a "failure" ? Oh,okay. Thanks for the blatant partisanship.

eric a blair wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

OK.

Republican Establishment = Democrat = big government fascists, as in direct government control over private health care.

Better?

now you're trolling me so I won't reply with meaning.

Well then. You tell me what ObamaCare is.

Socialism?

Fascism?

Authoritarianism?

Dictatorship?

Command and control?

What else?

What is it when the government passes a law that basically says "Health care insurance is whatever the President says it is and it can change at any moment, and the President can fine anyone who won't play his/her/zhes game." Because that's exactly what ObamaCare is.

So let me get this straight. You are celebrating Trump's massive incompetence because it exposes the GOP? How low does the standard get??? I'm with you on both parties being awful though.

Obamacare is properly called Romneycare which was invented by Republicans. So, which term of yours do YOU think Romneycare should be called?

RomneyCare wrote:

Obamacare is properly called Romneycare which was invented by Republicans. So, which term of yours do YOU think Romneycare should be called?

You probably think that was kind of a gotcha for Disco. But Disco has already made it clear (and even just said) that he despises the GOP. So, not really.

Think first.

DiscoGary wrote:

What is it when the government passes a law that basically says "Health care insurance is whatever the President says it is and it can change at any moment, and the President can fine anyone who won't play his/her/zhes game." Because that's exactly what ObamaCare is.

Strawman. If it were true that, "Health care insurance is whatever the President says it is and it can change at any moment, and the President can fine anyone who won't play his/her/zhes game", then Trump would simply change it.