DiscoGary wrote:
52% of Democrats think the Russians changed the vote totals. That's Birther level craziness on a huge scale.
Indeed. Also according to YouGov, 62% of Trump voters think that millions of illegal immigrants voted in the 2016 Election.
https://today.yougov.com/news/2016/12/27/belief-conspiracies-largely-depends-political-iden/YouGov also found that 53% of Trump voters think that Clinton's leaked emails referenced human trafficking in a pizza parlor.
these polls that show the ignorance of Americans go on and on.
I saw one a day or two ago that only half of republicans believe junior met with a Russian lawyer. Even though Junior openly admits that he did exactly that. The event is not under discussion. but people picking up the phone thought it sounded bad for Trump so they said it never happened.
It's all just 'pick a team' - you tell the pollster whatever you think is best for your team, regardless of truth. You get a bigger kick out of being on the team than you would by telling the truth.
Put another way, these polls are BS. They just tell you who is on what team, not what people really think.
Jeff Wigand wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:Lying? Me? I know what I see in print.
Print this and then you'll know it.
Miriam Goderich edited the text of the bio; she is now a partner at the Dystel & Goderich agency, which lists Obama as one of its current clients.
“You’re undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me — an agency assistant at the time,†Goderich wrote. “There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more.â€
Use your imagination. What would have happened to Miriam if she said Obama told her he was born in Kenya? Is her life easier now that she said she screwed up?
Do we have any record of Obama correcting the mistake back in 1991? Now THAT would carry some weight.
eric a blair wrote:
these polls that show the ignorance of Americans go on and on.
I saw one a day or two ago that only half of republicans believe junior met with a Russian lawyer. Even though Junior openly admits that he did exactly that. The event is not under discussion. but people picking up the phone thought it sounded bad for Trump so they said it never happened.
It's all just 'pick a team' - you tell the pollster whatever you think is best for your team, regardless of truth. You get a bigger kick out of being on the team than you would by telling the truth.
Put another way, these polls are BS. They just tell you who is on what team, not what people really think.
Finally, we can agree on something. Politics is best understood when you compare it to being a sports fan. You NEVER see your own guys committing a foul and every foul by the other team seems like a crime against humanity.
Now Trump is saying we need to elect more Republicans to get health care done. He's wrong. We need to replace some of the ones that are already there. Hopefully we see a lot of Republicans getting primaried.
DiscoGary wrote:
Use your imagination. What would have happened to Miriam if she said Obama told her he was born in Kenya? Is her life easier now that she said she screwed up?
Do we have any record of Obama correcting the mistake back in 1991? Now THAT would carry some weight.
He could have also been born on Mars. Use your imagination. Remember that for the next time you think that someone is throwing baseless speculation against a candidate or cause you support. It doesn't make them right for doing it, but it does make you a hypocrite.
http://www.nytimes.com/1990/02/06/us/first-black-elected-to-head-harvard-s-law-review.htmlThe new president of the Review is Barack Obama, a 28-year-old graduate of Columbia University who spent four years heading a community development program for poor blacks on Chicago's South Side before enrolling in law school. His late father, Barack Obama, was a finance minister in Kenya and his mother, Ann Dunham, is an American anthropologist now doing fieldwork in Indonesia. Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii.
DiscoGary wrote:
Use your imagination. What would have happened to Miriam if she said Obama told her he was born in Kenya?
ummm, how would a newborn baby know where it was born? how do you know where you were born, discogary? because mommy told you so? because a piece of paper says so? without video proof you have nothing. based on your posts, russia is your most likely place of birth. ... now crimea river, discogary.
DiscoGary wrote:
eric a blair wrote:these polls that show the ignorance of Americans go on and on.
I saw one a day or two ago that only half of republicans believe junior met with a Russian lawyer. Even though Junior openly admits that he did exactly that. The event is not under discussion. but people picking up the phone thought it sounded bad for Trump so they said it never happened.
It's all just 'pick a team' - you tell the pollster whatever you think is best for your team, regardless of truth. You get a bigger kick out of being on the team than you would by telling the truth.
Put another way, these polls are BS. They just tell you who is on what team, not what people really think.
Finally, we can agree on something. Politics is best understood when you compare it to being a sports fan. You NEVER see your own guys committing a foul and every foul by the other team seems like a crime against humanity.
I agree too. During the primaries it felt like 'The Bachelor'- who's going to drop out this week??? Is my guy still in?
0/10 You can do better.
Trumpette wrote:
Conundrum wrote:I think I do understand and that's what worries the hell out of me.
No. You don't.
Every one on here except you knows what's going on. Every single one except for you.
Disco? He knows
eric? He knows
Fat? He knows
Every single person here knows. Seriously dude, your cluelessness truly is of flagpolian proportions.
Conundrum wrote:
0/10
You can do better.
Trumpette wrote:No. You don't.
Every one on here except you knows what's going on. Every single one except for you.
Disco? He knows
eric? He knows
Fat? He knows
Every single person here knows. Seriously dude, your cluelessness truly is of flagpolian proportions.
Oh clueless one. Oh you poor, poor clueless one.
Amal scared duckboy and duckboy never came back. Amal bested the "tough guy"
The REAL Judge wrote:
Unbiased Sideline Judge wrote:No, the internet tough guy was the Boulder guy, threatening the duck guy. Can you actually read weakling or does someone interpret for you?
Hi Froggie!
The winning continues!!
No lock her up
No wall
No health care
No Muslim ban
No jobs increase
No bombing of ISIS
No withdrawal from NATO
No Russian partnership
No Flynn
No good approval rating
No avoiding a special investigation
Yes, she bitch slapped my hand away. Promises made, promises broken
Looooooooooooooser! We the American people can't take all the winning
Now Trump says he wants to let ObamaCare fail. That's good news. The best way to get rid of a bad law is to strictly enforce it. So let's hammer this ObamaCare nail into the people of America, and then see who gets the blame. The most likely outcome of this is that the Democrats will get the blame for passing it in the first place, and the Republicans will get the blame for not repealing it, and Trump will stand in the middle unscathed.
This is bad news for both parties. I love it.
DiscoGary wrote:
Now Trump says he wants to let ObamaCare fail. That's good news. The best way to get rid of a bad law is to strictly enforce it. So let's hammer this ObamaCare nail into the people of America, and then see who gets the blame. The most likely outcome of this is that the Democrats will get the blame for passing it in the first place, and the Republicans will get the blame for not repealing it, and Trump will stand in the middle unscathed.
This is bad news for both parties. I love it.
you are advocating for a plan that will kill people, bankrupt thousands of families and throw a giant swath of the US economy into turmoil.
Just to prove a point.
Nice.
You know what...I think the US military isn't perfect. So I think it should be defunded, everyone should be fired, and then start over. What's the worst that can happen?
DiscoGary wrote:
Now Trump is saying we need to elect more Republicans to get health care done. He's wrong. We need to replace some of the ones that are already there. Hopefully we see a lot of Republicans getting primaried.
"Nobody knew health care could be so complicated."
Seven years of b*tching about the terrors of ObamaCare, and these clowns couldn't come up with a halfway feasible alternative. Now we get to watch republicans throw wrench after wrench into the gears of the ACA and claim that the misfortune that follows is entirely the fault of Democrats. Rather than lift a finger to improve what we've got, Trump (who clearly had no idea what was in TrumpCare) is stating point blank that "we'll just let Obamacare fail." They are openly admitting that they are going to play games with people's lives to try to score political points. And President Deal Maker thinks these tactics will bring Democrats to the negotiating table?
It's sick. Forty years of blaming democratic governance for all the country's ills has atrophied their collective sense of civic responsibility into nothingness. Of course, Republicans have been deliberately under-funding or mismanaging government programs and then saying "See?? Government can't do anything right" for years. But this takes it to a whole new level of evil.
foo wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:Now Trump is saying we need to elect more Republicans to get health care done. He's wrong. We need to replace some of the ones that are already there. Hopefully we see a lot of Republicans getting primaried.
"Nobody knew health care could be so complicated."
Yup. Centralized command and control can not possibly take the place of a distributed free market system. It isn't possible. It can not work no matter who is in charge. The Democrats will never learn this, and some Republicans are starting to figure it out.
The Gallant Pig Man wrote:
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Now we get to watch republicans throw wrench after wrench into the gears of the ACA and claim that the misfortune that follows is entirely the fault of Democrats.
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It is entirely the fault of Democrats. You guys wrote it and passed it. You own it. I hope Republicans enforce it down to the last letter of the law. After all, Trump said he stood for enforcing the law. Well, let's do it. Let's finally "find out what's in it."
Prediction: Democrats will always blame Republicans for their policy failures.
DiscoGary wrote:
The Gallant Pig Man wrote:...
Now we get to watch republicans throw wrench after wrench into the gears of the ACA and claim that the misfortune that follows is entirely the fault of Democrats.
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It is entirely the fault of Democrats. You guys wrote it and passed it. You own it. I hope Republicans enforce it down to the last letter of the law. After all, Trump said he stood for enforcing the law. Well, let's do it. Let's finally "find out what's in it."
Prediction: Democrats will always blame Republicans for their policy failures.
You do know that every government initiative . . . from military spending and priorities to infrastructure projects, from health care to environmental protection, from anti-terror strategies to voting rights . . . EVERY government initiative since the beginning of time has needed to be modified and updated in order to be effective in meeting the intended goals, right?
You do know that, right?
And yet, somehow it is not the business of the those currently in government to modify and update as needed?
Good thinking, Gary!
Let's drop the waivers for all the Democrat groups who are avoiding ObamaCare right now. Drag all the unions and government employees into the swamp with the rest of us. Let's spread the ObamaCare pain around to everyone. Then maybe we can have the whole country pulling in the same direction.
Yeah. The solution isn't less ObamaCare. It's more ObamaCare.