IGNORE THE TROLL
Drives her crazy.
IGNORE THE TROLL
Drives her crazy.
Actually trump was surveilling our own embassy personnel, if you’ve been keeping up with the Parnas evidence, he didn’t wait for others to attack; he attacked Yovanovich himself.
agip wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Source for that? We've been hearing about the ex-prosecutor but that he was just disgruntled and had unsubstantiated claims about Barisma. Were these supposed crimes committed by Biden or by Barisma? The covert nature of getting Rudy to go behind the scenes with his guys carrying bags of cash tells me it is all very far fetched. Why try to get to the bottom of something like that covertly and why not just open an official investigation citing potential corruption by the former administration?
Here's the Ukrainian prosecutor saying Joe Biden applied pressure to save his son. When the US ambassador wouldn't let that happen, what choice did Trump have but to fire her and go over his head to the president of Ukraine? Maybe spanks did the right thing.
WaPo:
The newly released documents also detail Giuliani’s involvement in trying to secure a U.S. visa for Lutsenko’s predecessor, Viktor Shokin, who has alleged that Biden asked Poroshenko to fire him because he was investigating the owner of Burisma at the time.
Biden has denied the allegation, saying he pushed for Shokin’s firing as part of U.S. anti-corruption policy toward Ukraine, consistent with a broad consensus among U.S. and European officials at the time that he was failing to reform the country’s corrupt judicial system. Shokin was fired, after Biden’s urging, in March 2016.
Parnas was hoping to bring Shokin to the United States to meet with Giuliani and record his claims against Biden, but the U.S. Embassy, then run by Yovanovitch, had blocked Shokin’s visa.
Investigation the owner of Barisma is not the same as investigating Hunter, so to me that is not relevant. Inappropriate for Hunter but certainly not illegal.
State Dept illegally refuses to hold scheduled diplomatic briefings with Congress after Parnas evidence.
agip wrote:
agip wrote:
Here's the Ukrainian prosecutor saying Joe Biden applied pressure to save his son. When the US ambassador wouldn't let that happen, what choice did Trump have but to fire her and go over his head to the president of Ukraine? Maybe spanks did the right thing.
WaPo:
The newly released documents also detail Giuliani’s involvement in trying to secure a U.S. visa for Lutsenko’s predecessor, Viktor Shokin, who has alleged that Biden asked Poroshenko to fire him because he was investigating the owner of Burisma at the time.
Biden has denied the allegation, saying he pushed for Shokin’s firing as part of U.S. anti-corruption policy toward Ukraine, consistent with a broad consensus among U.S. and European officials at the time that he was failing to reform the country’s corrupt judicial system. Shokin was fired, after Biden’s urging, in March 2016.
Parnas was hoping to bring Shokin to the United States to meet with Giuliani and record his claims against Biden, but the U.S. Embassy, then run by Yovanovitch, had blocked Shokin’s visa.
ack I misstated something. better:
Here's the Ukrainian prosecutor saying Joe Biden applied pressure to save his son. The prosecutor wanted to come to the US to publicize Joe's crimes, but the US ambassador wouldn't let that happen.
When the US ambassador wouldn't let the ukrainian prosecutor come to the US, what choice did Trump have but to fire her and go over his head to the president of Ukraine? To get him to tell teh truth about criminal joe. Maybe spanks did the right thing.
WaPo:
The newly released documents also detail Giuliani’s involvement in trying to secure a U.S. visa for Lutsenko’s predecessor, Viktor Shokin, who has alleged that Biden asked Poroshenko to fire him because he was investigating the owner of Burisma at the time.
Biden has denied the allegation, saying he pushed for Shokin’s firing as part of U.S. anti-corruption policy toward Ukraine, consistent with a broad consensus among U.S. and European officials at the time that he was failing to reform the country’s corrupt judicial system. Shokin was fired, after Biden’s urging, in March 2016.
Parnas was hoping to bring Shokin to the United States to meet with Giuliani and record his claims against Biden, but the U.S. Embassy, then run by Yovanovitch, had blocked Shokin’s visa.
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This is not a new rumor. Apparently he was disgruntled after being fired and only sounded the alarm after. How could his account be corroborated?
Fattttty Bsa wrote:
Quite the contrast - Donald Trump signing today an historic trade agreement with China as unemployment is at 50-year lows, the stock market (all indexes) are at all-time highs and the economy is booming like nothing before while the sullen Nancy Pelosi introduces the 7 impeachment managers who look as sad as anyone can be. Can Dems not rejoice in how great the country is doing? Do they hate Trump so much that they can't say that he is presiding over an incredible economy?
So all that drama and he put us back to square one, great
Fattttty Bsa wrote:
jesseriley wrote:
WH holds “briefing” with reporters over the phone. No mention of their defense team or the Parnas evidence.
Easy to see why they can’t handle an actual press conference.
The Senate trial about to begin. Fasten your seatbelts. Let's Get Ready to Rumble!!!
Why did the White House quit with press conferences? This is something that deeply troubles me. The White House needs to face the people.
Why have press conferences when FOX is operating as state media?
Fattttty Bsa wrote:
jesseriley wrote:
Same issues as before: create problem; find way to take personal advantage of problem; partially “fix” problem, leaving it worse than before; repeat by creating another problem.
Have we had a Benghazi during the Trump presidency? He eliminated the top terrorist in the world. Hillary was sleeping when the Benghazi slaughter went down. They begged her for more security. She scoffed at them. She was sleeping when the attack went down! Sleeping! Trump would never be sleeping if an embassy was attacked. Just like he took out the Iranian terrorist he would take out the bad people attacking the embassy.
We had several North Koreas, a Syria, an Iran and soon an Iraq.
jesseriley wrote:
Actually trump was surveilling our own embassy personnel, if you’ve been keeping up with the Parnas evidence, he didn’t wait for others to attack; he attacked Yovanovich himself.
Worse, for tRump. He had the stalking lead by his personal attorney who said he works for Trump on personal matters, not on government matters. So, Trump is using the government to attack people who he blindly believes are his personal enemies.
it's Personal wrote:
jesseriley wrote:
Actually trump was surveilling our own embassy personnel, if you’ve been keeping up with the Parnas evidence, he didn’t wait for others to attack; he attacked Yovanovich himself.
Worse, for tRump. He had the stalking lead by his personal attorney who said he works for Trump on personal matters, not on government matters. So, Trump is using the government to attack people who he blindly believes are his personal enemies.
There is absolutely no question Rudy was serving as his personal attorney at the same time he was setting up parallel diplomacy at trump’s request. Total mix of business and pleasure - and by please I mean destruction of his opponents.
Treadhead wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/michigan-lawmaker-apologizes-comments-female-163158620.htmlGuess which party?
Without clicking I know he’s a R and surprised he even apologized
Yeah nothing to see here - Obama would have been lynched for something like this
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/15/politics/state-department-cancels-iran-briefing/index.html
Trollminator wrote:
agip wrote:
ack I misstated something. better:
Here's the Ukrainian prosecutor saying Joe Biden applied pressure to save his son. The prosecutor wanted to come to the US to publicize Joe's crimes, but the US ambassador wouldn't let that happen.
When the US ambassador wouldn't let the ukrainian prosecutor come to the US, what choice did Trump have but to fire her and go over his head to the president of Ukraine? To get him to tell teh truth about criminal joe. Maybe spanks did the right thing.
WaPo:
The newly released documents also detail Giuliani’s involvement in trying to secure a U.S. visa for Lutsenko’s predecessor, Viktor Shokin, who has alleged that Biden asked Poroshenko to fire him because he was investigating the owner of Burisma at the time.
Biden has denied the allegation, saying he pushed for Shokin’s firing as part of U.S. anti-corruption policy toward Ukraine, consistent with a broad consensus among U.S. and European officials at the time that he was failing to reform the country’s corrupt judicial system. Shokin was fired, after Biden’s urging, in March 2016.
Parnas was hoping to bring Shokin to the United States to meet with Giuliani and record his claims against Biden, but the U.S. Embassy, then run by Yovanovitch, had blocked Shokin’s visa.
This is not a new rumor. Apparently he was disgruntled after being fired and only sounded the alarm after. How could his account be corroborated?[/quote]
the point I am making is simply that if Trump believed that the Bidens were criminals, then his behavior might not be impeachable. And he had reason to believe exactly that.
Anyone with a decent brain knows your version is correct, trollminator, but trump is a complete moron.
TN Senate gets it right! wrote:
great news!!! wrote:
https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2020/01/14/tennessee-gay-adoption-senate-passes-bill-allowing-agencies-discriminate/4465719002/This is great news!!!!
It sure is!!!
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.metroweekly.com/2019/04/lesbian-mothers-killed-their-six-adopted-children-in-murder-suicide-inquest-finds/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwjd9q3wqYbnAhXqmeAKHUAMBXQQFjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw37fGp1mO0VQJhCxvdSl3xR&cf=1
Yeah. No opposite sex couple ever did the murder-suicide thing.
TN Senate gets it right! wrote:
great news!!! wrote:
https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2020/01/14/tennessee-gay-adoption-senate-passes-bill-allowing-agencies-discriminate/4465719002/This is great news!!!!
It sure is!!!
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.metroweekly.com/2019/04/lesbian-mothers-killed-their-six-adopted-children-in-murder-suicide-inquest-finds/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwjd9q3wqYbnAhXqmeAKHUAMBXQQFjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw37fGp1mO0VQJhCxvdSl3xR&cf=1
Great news.....because we all know straight parents never kill their kids.
Yes, and we all know there’s a huge shortage of adoptive parents. Unless you’re a dumb@ss politician.
Sally Vixxxxxxxens wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
I was joking about Trump's 95% claim as polls seem to have it at around 85%.
A few weeks ago, there was a poll showing him ahead in every swing state. As things stand now,
he could lose the popular vote by 5M+ and still win the electoral college. However, if Bolton testifies Trump is toast.
Why do you need Bolton to testify? Speaker Pelosi and every other Democrat in the House said that the evidence against Trump was was overwhelming and the fact that he committed impeachable offenses was a slam dunk. Trump committed impeachable offenses - there is no dispute. Send the Articles of Impeachment and BAMM! The Senate votes to convict him and remove him from office. OHH??? The evidence is not that overwhelming? Did the Dems in the House lie to us? Was there really no damning evidence against Trump after all?
They’re so f’n stupid. Didn’t get a single Republican to vote for impeachment, actually had a few Dems defect and vote against, and then had a Dem switch to the other party! LOL! All while knowing damn well that it’s going nowhere in the Senate because they weren’t able to make any semblance of a case against Trump. Crazy, crazy people over there.
Meanwhile.....
Dow hits 29,000
Wage growth is highest in a decade
Unemployment is at 3.5%
Labor participation is at all time highs
African American and Hispanic approval is increasing (scares the shirt out of Dems)
Criminal justice reform was passed, which is helping thousands of minority communities
Opportunity Zones are helping minority community development
Illegal immigration is down 70% since his deal with Mexico’s leader
ISIS territory has been nearly 100% eliminated
ISIS top terrorist leader is dead
Iran’s top terrorist leader is dead
UN nations are contributing more than ever
Fattttty Bsa wrote:
Let the dude run the government. Can you even let him do that??????!!!
Not the way he *wants* to run it, no.
Ridonkulous wrote:
Wage growth is highest in a decade.
Uh huh. Sure.
"[Wages] have increased 2.4% since Trump took office, from an average $308.21 per week to $315.74 per week in May, the most recent figures available from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Technical note: All wage figures cited in this story from BLS are calculated in 1982-84 dollars – not current 2019 dollars.
"During Obama’s last four years in office the average weekly earnings for production and nonsupervisory workers went up 4.9%. Over Obama’s entire two-term tenure, wages were up 4.2%."
https://www.factcheck.org/2019/06/are-wages-rising-or-flat/RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year