Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Criminal Trump wrote:

agip wrote:

there will always be a Confederacy.

The Confederacy was always about keeping social status. It has nothing to do with politics at all. Trumpers are exactly the same way. That is why they can easily spin their heads around, like in the movie The Exorcist, and accept any 180-turns Trump makes. They have no moral or ethical standards to any kind. They only want to grab "more than their fair share" from people who are do not look like them, to act like them (scary people who are not white, liberals, and conservatives who believe in social equality).

I'd add the white-hot resentment held by trumpists toward people who go to college to better themselves. And you know, read books and stuff.

agip wrote:

I'd add the white-hot resentment held by trumpists toward people who go to college to better themselves. And you know, read books and stuff.

Trump doesn't read anything. He relies on his gut feel. Trumper love that about him ... just act, don't think. It is more Social Status "politics."

Your gyrations are becoming even more fantastic.. tell us again how Joe and Hunter could exonerate Trump? He would be better off if they called in Ivanka as a witness to how awesome daddy is... either way just as irrelevant.

Impotus is being accused of using his presidential power for personal gain, in this case asking a foreign leader to dig up dirt on an opponent. Relevant to determining the merit of the accusations are insiders who can provide more context and demonstrate trump's true intent. Joe and Hunter are not insiders and would not be able to possibly speak to trump's intentions. They are completely irrelevant. But if you do want someone who can exonerate him then you need to bang on the table for Bolton and Mulvaney, who could speak so directly to trump's innocence.

Trollminator wrote:

Your gyrations are becoming even more fantastic.. tell us again how Joe and Hunter could exonerate Trump? He would be better off if they called in Ivanka as a witness to how awesome daddy is... either way just as irrelevant.

Impotus is being accused of using his presidential power for personal gain, in this case asking a foreign leader to dig up dirt on an opponent. Relevant to determining the merit of the accusations are insiders who can provide more context and demonstrate trump's true intent. Joe and Hunter are not insiders and would not be able to possibly speak to trump's intentions. They are completely irrelevant. But if you do want someone who can exonerate him then you need to bang on the table for Bolton and Mulvaney, who could speak so directly to trump's innocence.

what if Bidens admitted they were crooks and selling influence to Ukrainians?

Then would Trump's insistence on investigations be correct and a job well-done?

agip wrote:

what if Bidens admitted they were crooks and selling influence to Ukrainians?

Then would Trump's insistence on investigations be correct and a job well-done?

Exactly the right question! And of course the answer is "no."

Criminal Trump wrote:

agip wrote:

I'd add the white-hot resentment held by trumpists toward people who go to college to better themselves. And you know, read books and stuff.

Trump doesn't read anything. He relies on his gut feel. Trumper love that about him ... just act, don't think. It is more Social Status "politics."

This has 100% to do with insecurity from his tzees. He is a vehicle for their revenge, plain and simple. He's "their man". Agent orange is the product of the GOP's failure to make good on historical promises to own the libs. This has zero to do with so called conservative or religious principles. He simply took advantage of a lot of trapped hate... he took the cheapest route possible to secure the WH and completely mangled any integrity and honor that was left in US leadership.

Uhh, yeah . . . wrote:

agip wrote:

what if Bidens admitted they were crooks and selling influence to Ukrainians?

Then would Trump's insistence on investigations be correct and a job well-done?

Exactly the right question! And of course the answer is "no."

why not? Wouldn't the head of the executive branch have the responsibility to root out corruption before we give hundreds of millions of dollars?

Trollminator wrote:

Criminal Trump wrote:

Trump doesn't read anything. He relies on his gut feel. Trumper love that about him ... just act, don't think. It is more Social Status "politics."

This has 100% to do with insecurity from his tzees. He is a vehicle for their revenge, plain and simple. He's "their man". Agent orange is the product of the GOP's failure to make good on historical promises to own the libs. This has zero to do with so called conservative or religious principles. He simply took advantage of a lot of trapped hate... he took the cheapest route possible to secure the WH and completely mangled any integrity and honor that was left in US leadership.

And if you don't buy my argument then just roll the clock back to 2012, 2008, 2004 or any previous election year ... does anyone honestly think trump would have had any shot at the WH back then? The republican base was not as hateful and fed up enough back then.

agip wrote:

Uhh, yeah . . . wrote:

Exactly the right question! And of course the answer is "no."

why not? Wouldn't the head of the executive branch have the responsibility to root out corruption before we give hundreds of millions of dollars?

The key here is the context. Unless space aliens bring us some miraculous evidence to the contrary, no one in their right mind can honestly say trump only meant to pressure Ukraine to fight corruption. Of course, he also would never have used the words "I hereby bride you". I bet even if he had, the GOP would be claiming he was just being donny and didn't mean what he said.

I have yet to get a response to this - what if this was any other former president?

Trollminator wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

This has 100% to do with insecurity from his tzees. He is a vehicle for their revenge, plain and simple. He's "their man". Agent orange is the product of the GOP's failure to make good on historical promises to own the libs. This has zero to do with so called conservative or religious principles. He simply took advantage of a lot of trapped hate... he took the cheapest route possible to secure the WH and completely mangled any integrity and honor that was left in US leadership.

And if you don't buy my argument then just roll the clock back to 2012, 2008, 2004 or any previous election year ... does anyone honestly think trump would have had any shot at the WH back then? The republican base was not as hateful and fed up enough back then.

not sure I agree with this. the republican voters just never had a guy like trump to aim their loathing.

but all that non-college white vote that the Rs got every year was to poke the libs and hold down the blacks. They voted to cut benefits because they didn't want their money going to brown people.

Germans didn't start hating Jews the day Hitler took office. It was there...Hitler gave them a focus, that's all.

their resentments were there tho -

agip wrote:

I'm done with this fattyy guy, He is not negotiating in good faith.

anyone at this point who says Biden inappropriately fired that prosecutor is just another trumpist jerk, coked out on fox and breitbart.

I'm out.

Can you not read? I never said Biden fired the prosecutor. I said he bragged about having the special prosecutor fired. He bribed them to fire. Here is the video ...

agip wrote:

Uhh, yeah . . . wrote:

Exactly the right question! And of course the answer is "no."

why not? Wouldn't the head of the executive branch have the responsibility to root out corruption before we give hundreds of millions of dollars?

Wait. The Bidens are going to admit to being crooks and selling influence to Ukraine?

Your story about Trump wanting to root out corruption is undermined by him not actually wanting an investigation.

If they did then unfortunately millions of tzees would be convinced that trump was acting in good faith. Objectively, of course it would not change anything about trump's obvious intentions.

Fattttty Bbss wrote:

agip wrote:

I'm done with this fattyy guy, He is not negotiating in good faith.

anyone at this point who says Biden inappropriately fired that prosecutor is just another trumpist jerk, coked out on fox and breitbart.

I'm out.

Can you not read? I never said Biden fired the prosecutor. I said he bragged about having the special prosecutor fired. He bribed them to fire. Here is the video ...

https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/24/watch-joe-biden-brag-about-bribing-ukraine-to-fire-the-prosecutor-investigating-his-sons-company/

How is any of Biden's congress approved actions from years ago relevant to trump's guilt in abusing his power for personal gain in the summer of 2019?

Fattttty Bbss wrote:

agip wrote:

I'm done with this fattyy guy, He is not negotiating in good faith.

anyone at this point who says Biden inappropriately fired that prosecutor is just another trumpist jerk, coked out on fox and breitbart.

I'm out.

Can you not read? I never said Biden fired the prosecutor. I said he bragged about having the special prosecutor fired. He bribed them to fire. Here is the video ...

https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/24/watch-joe-biden-brag-about-bribing-ukraine-to-fire-the-prosecutor-investigating-his-sons-company/

Anyone who says that Joe Biden is not a relevant witness in the impeachment trial of President Trump is not an honest person. Be true to your self.

Trollminator wrote:

agip wrote:

what if Bidens admitted they were crooks and selling influence to Ukrainians?

Then would Trump's insistence on investigations be correct and a job well-done?

If they did then unfortunately millions of tzees would be convinced that trump was acting in good faith. Objectively, of course it would not change anything about trump's obvious intentions.

I'm not sure how the law works, but seems to me that if trump both thought the bidens were corrupt and was correct that the bidens were corrupt, he might have a case that he was doing the responsible thing to push a foreign government to investigate corrupt Americans.

Trollminator wrote:

Fattttty Bbss wrote:

Can you not read? I never said Biden fired the prosecutor. I said he bragged about having the special prosecutor fired. He bribed them to fire. Here is the video ...

https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/24/watch-joe-biden-brag-about-bribing-ukraine-to-fire-the-prosecutor-investigating-his-sons-company/

How is any of Biden's congress approved actions from years ago relevant to trump's guilt in abusing his power for personal gain in the summer of 2019?

Congress approved of Joe Biden bribing the Ukrainian government? I would never imagine Congress approving of bribing a foreign official or government.

agip wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

If they did then unfortunately millions of tzees would be convinced that trump was acting in good faith. Objectively, of course it would not change anything about trump's obvious intentions.

I'm not sure how the law works, but seems to me that if trump both thought the bidens were corrupt and was correct that the bidens were corrupt, he might have a case that he was doing the responsible thing to push a foreign government to investigate corrupt Americans.

Actually someone made this point. Trump is ultimately the chief legal officer of the US even over the Attorney General. He was simply pursuing a foreign government who he deemed to be engaged in illegal activities.

Fattttty Bbss wrote:

agip wrote:

I'm not sure how the law works, but seems to me that if trump both thought the bidens were corrupt and was correct that the bidens were corrupt, he might have a case that he was doing the responsible thing to push a foreign government to investigate corrupt Americans.

Actually someone made this point. Trump is ultimately the chief legal officer of the US even over the Attorney General. He was simply pursuing a foreign government who he deemed to be engaged in illegal activities.

In the end, this whole thing is another example of how the system fails when potus is unfit for the job. We have given potus massive powers, assuming wise or at least responsible people will be in the WH. When a criminal, amoral jerk is in the WH, there is very little check on his power.