Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Reality calling wrote:
Reality is real,
I have one more question for you. A question Trigger or Iggy would never answer and I am very curious how you would answer it.
Do you believe and trust trump?
No, but I trust and believe Schiff less.
So Schiff has made the whole thing up by himself?
That sounds ridiculous.
Is your only response yet another whataboutism? Oh I get it, actually Schiff is the deep state and set the whole thing up. It’s a conspiracy! He somehow coerced trump to ask Ukraine to look into Biden. Then Schiff set up Trump to unwillingly withhold funds to Ukraine. Schiff then paid off Rudy and the stooges to run parallel diplomacy with Ukraine to apply more pressure. Trump didn’t know any of this at the time, as he was just a victim of Democrat treachery. The greatest alpha male POTUS of all time, getting done over by pencil neck Schiff.
Sally Vix wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
A couple things....
1. Hunter Biden being on the board of a foreign company isn't illegal. Rich entitled snobs get jobs they are unqualified for all the time. Im sure the company thought having a former VP's son on the board was good for business.
2. Quid pro quo in itself is not illegal. Quid pro quo in order to investigate corruption is not illegal. Correct me if I'm wrong. Quid pro quo just looks dirty to the public. If the Quid pro quo was used just because Trump wanted dirt on a political rival then that would be illegal yes? Again, just like with Mueller its all about proving motive.
Trump gets impeached by the House but easily acquitted in the Senate. His approval will remain 41-44%.
Trump will lose 2020...bigly. Biden will have 330-350 electoral votes. Sorry left lefties...stop trying to make Warren a thing. Not happening. The GOP loses the Senate and loses more seats in the House.
Alan
His dad promising to fire the Ukrainian prosecutor IS EFFING ILLEGAL. Address the fact that Joe Biden extorted those Officials. Please address his extortion.
"Sally is pure, 100% troll. Her pattern is way too obvious by now for anyone to still think she is anything but.
1) Make ridiculous claim (even one that has gone through the cycle many times before)
2) Have claim proven wrong unequivocally
3) Repeat ridiculous claim
4) Have folks point out that claim was clearly proven to be incorrect
5) Repeat ridiculous claim - now daring anyone to prove them wrong
6) Have folks point out that they are tired of proving this claim wrong
7) Repeat ridiculous claim. Compound it by claiming that no "lib" is able to even address it
8) Have someone shout out, "LOOK AT THE F'ING PROOF THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SHOWN TO YOU EIGHT TIMES, YOU MORON!!!"
9) Reply that poster is being rude and that only "libs" are rude
10) Have some "saint" on here very politely point out that the claim is pure BS, completely made up by Breitbart & Co.
11) Thank saint for "finally" providing the answer. Give kudos (saint now reverts back to "Maybe Sally isn't a troll. Maybe she is just a lost soul.")
12) Make new ridiculous claim
13) Have new claim proven wrong unequivocally
14) Repeat new ridiculous claim
. . .
And so on, ad infinitum
Sorry, but this is classic trolling. And there is no way that it is anything other than trolling."
And here we go again. On step 1) again for the 14th time on this exact same ridiculous claim.
Ciro wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
No, but I trust and believe Schiff less.
So Schiff has made the whole thing up by himself?
That sounds ridiculous.
Pencil Neck always promised, on numerous occasions, that he had seen ample evidence of Russian collusion. It was a lie.
Pencil Neck said on national television that he and his committee had no prior contact with the whistleblower. Even the liberal Washington Post’s fact-checker called him out on it, and gave him 4 “Pinocchios." Then Pencil Neck hit the lying trifecta when he made up a fake dialog about Trump's phone call with the Ukrainian president
Pencil Neck has a history of making sh!t up.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Ciro wrote:
So Schiff has made the whole thing up by himself?
That sounds ridiculous.
Pencil Neck always promised, on numerous occasions, that he had seen ample evidence of Russian collusion. It was a lie.
Pencil Neck said on national television that he and his committee had no prior contact with the whistleblower. Even the liberal Washington Post’s fact-checker called him out on it, and gave him 4 “Pinocchios." Then Pencil Neck hit the lying trifecta when he made up a fake dialog about Trump's phone call with the Ukrainian president
Pencil Neck has a history of making sh!t up.
Nothing about Schiff is relevant to Trump's current predicament. The evidence so far is the partial transcript of the call, Mulvaney's brain-fart moment of truthfulness and the testimony of the diplomats. It's damning already and it's only going to get worse
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Pencil Neck always promised, on numerous occasions, that he had seen ample evidence of Russian collusion. It was a lie.
Pencil Neck said on national television that he and his committee had no prior contact with the whistleblower. Even the liberal Washington Post’s fact-checker called him out on it, and gave him 4 “Pinocchios." Then Pencil Neck hit the lying trifecta when he made up a fake dialog about Trump's phone call with the Ukrainian president
Pencil Neck has a history of making sh!t up.
Nothing about Schiff is relevant to Trump's current predicament. The evidence so far is the partial transcript of the call, Mulvaney's brain-fart moment of truthfulness and the testimony of the diplomats. It's damning already and it's only going to get worse
Exactly, but he got four Pinocchio noses from the WaPo ?
kibitzer wrote:
The President's approval rating continues to drop, despite an economy that (surprisingly, to some) continues to hum.
However, it's worth pointing out that his current 40.8% approval in the poll-of-polls is *significantly* higher than where he was exactly two years ago. The rock-bottom of his approval rating was the last part of 2017, which played into the (mildly) blue wave of the 2018 elections; he is currently in a stronger position than he was then.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
It is also about where Obama's was in the same time of his presidency. It can't keep dropping every day - and I do mean every day - and not be below zero.
kibitzer wrote:
The President's approval rating continues to drop, despite an economy that (surprisingly, to some) continues to hum.
However, it's worth pointing out that his current 40.8% approval in the poll-of-polls is *significantly* higher than where he was exactly two years ago. The rock-bottom of his approval rating was the last part of 2017, which played into the (mildly) blue wave of the 2018 elections; he is currently in a stronger position than he was then.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
I remember a long time ago - maybe 20 years ago - watching Trump on some show that featured him or his family and thinking what an unlikeable and despicable person he was. He is truly a wretched person. Pompous, so arrogant, and domineering and that was that. That is how I thought of him. But since his election, he is no longer a "person" who I must address and his wretchedness does not matter any more. You Libs are trying to oust him from his presidency. I could not care less about him as a person but I do treasure the sanctity of the office and of the presidency. He has done nothing to deserve his ouster. You Libs hate him and are deranged about it. Let the election get him out of office.
Yes, Ghost, it’s about saving democracy. We certainly can’t save you, but then you don’t think you (or democracies) need any help.
I know this is a hard concept for a loathsome monster to grasp, but people don’t cease to be human once elected. Some have even been known to govern compassionately.
Sally Vix wrote:
kibitzer wrote:
The President's approval rating continues to drop, despite an economy that (surprisingly, to some) continues to hum.
However, it's worth pointing out that his current 40.8% approval in the poll-of-polls is *significantly* higher than where he was exactly two years ago. The rock-bottom of his approval rating was the last part of 2017, which played into the (mildly) blue wave of the 2018 elections; he is currently in a stronger position than he was then.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/It is also about where Obama's was in the same time of his presidency. It can't keep dropping every day - and I do mean every day - and not be below zero.
What was Obama's disapproval at the same time? I've said this before. The important number is the spread and also the trend. Trump's approval will forever remain in the 3% standard error between 41-44%. What's more important is the disapproval. If your approval is 42% and disapproval is 44% then thats not a big deal as the standard polling error is typically around 3%. However, if your approval is 42% and your disapproval is 52% then thats a larger problem yes?
Also about VP Biden's "extortion".....the action was supported by our allies abroad and done openly and publicly in order to dispel corruption.
If Trump can show his action was also supported by our allies abroad and done openly and publicly in order to dispel corruption then there shouldn't be any issue.
The problem is Trump's previous actions and words on foreign intervention in US elections clearly shows his motivation. He literally said he would welcome Russia to find those emails. He literally said he would welcome foreign dirt. He literally said he wanted Ukraine to investigate the Bidens.
He thinks he is above the law and we let him het away with it.
Alan
Anyone who thinks the criticism of trump is bad, hasn’t heard the insults from minorities!
Trump’s next reality show is gonna be called, “I brought a white guy to The Dozens!”
Talking to you Sally! You Russians don’t know how to insult someone...
In the barrio, a russian would say, “I put you in gulag!”
And some dude named Guerrero (which means warrior), would say
“Gu-lock? Puta, I’ll put your @ss in a head-lock, and you won’t know which is your @ss, & which is your head!”
Sally was up watching her team get killed in by D.C. in the late innings yesterday...
And then the Astros game started, ha ha!
Does yesterday's storming of the committee room by Gaetz et al. remind anyone else of the sogenannte Brooks Brothers Riot of 19 years ago?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks_Brothers_riot
With Roger Stone currently hors de combat* it looks like Gaetz took the point position, but the motivation was the same: Allowing a legal process to play out might give a result that the GOPers wouldn't like, so they decided to short-circuit the process illegally.
And, of course, Gaetz thought that it might be helpful for his re-election--that probably goes without saying.
*Re Roger Stone:
https://www.courthousenews.com/appeals-court-keeps-roger-stone-gag-order-intact/
jesseriley wrote:
Sally was up watching her team get killed in by D.C. in the late innings yesterday...
And then the Astros game started, ha ha!
Okay, this one handed me a laugh.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Schiff made a threat to the United States. That is a fact.
BS
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Reality calling wrote:
Reality is real,
I have one more question for you. A question Trigger or Iggy would never answer and I am very curious how you would answer it.
Do you believe and trust trump?
No, but I trust and believe Schiff less.
That is a whackadoodle position, brother.
They have documented over 13,000 lies by Trump since his inauguration.
It's simply not news when he lies.
But someone loosely paraphrases his transcript and he's torched over it for weeks.
Trump has a serious Jim Jones affect over his followers.
Moscow’s latest dossier on Fat Boy’s sex life says, “We’re fvcked!”