Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

right, because wrote:

Very interesting. wrote:

You don't say . . . .

Trump administration sought billions of dollars in cuts to programs aimed at fighting corruption in Ukraine and elsewhere

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2019/10/23/trump-administration-sought-billions-dollars-cuts-programs-aimed-fighting-corruption-ukraine-abroad/

the corruption at issue is within the united states. We should be spending the money fixing our own problems. not looking for ways to enrich our children for foreign favors.

Hmmm. . . . Then why do you care so much about Biden's son being on a board that is NOT within the United States?

Very interesting. wrote:

right, because wrote:

the corruption at issue is within the united states. We should be spending the money fixing our own problems. not looking for ways to enrich our children for foreign favors.

Hmmm. . . . Then why do you care so much about Biden's son being on a board that is NOT within the United States?

I don't care that Biden's son was on a board of a company that is NOT within the united states. you clearly do not see the issue.

Here's a hypo for you. Let's say that there is reason to believe that the gov't of greece has evidence of crimes committed by the remaining Koch brother and the gov't of greece refuses to cooperate in the investigation. The President threatens to withhold aid if the gov't of greece does not cooperate in the investigation. Is this a crime?

Thanks for the info.

Now it comes out that the GOPers who broke security laws breaking into a secure area were commanded to do so by one POS Trump. During a nearly two-hour meeting with GOP House members on Tuesday. which focused mostly on the impeachment inquiry, lawmakers shared their plans to storm into the secure room, the people said. Trump supported the action.https://www.politicususa.com/2019/10/23/trump-knew-about-in-advance-and-supported-illegal-gop-impeachment-tantrum.html

SCIF wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

And how is Gaetz still a free man? It's like he is desperately looking for disbarment and jail time.

Entering a SCIF without authorization is a gross violation of security procedures.

Sending out phone messages from a SCIF is verboten and an even grosser violation of security procedures

Sending out pictures of what it looks like inside a SCIF is grounds for losing your clearance.

I worked for many years in a SCIF. What is a SCIF? It is a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility.

A SCIF is a very secure room that guards against electronic surveillance and suppresses data leakage of sensitive security information. A SCIF is armored, meaning no electronic data can enter or exit the space, it is regularly inspection for bugging. It is an information Black Hole.

https://www.wired.com/story/republicans-storm-scif-national-security-nightmare/

you don't get it. wrote:

I don't get it . . . .

So true.

SCIF wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

And how is Gaetz still a free man? It's like he is desperately looking for disbarment and jail time.

Entering a SCIF without authorization is a gross violation of security procedures.

Sending out phone messages from a SCIF is verboten and an even grosser violation of security procedures

Sending out pictures of what it looks like inside a SCIF is grounds for losing your clearance.

I worked for many years in a SCIF. What is a SCIF? It is a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility.

A SCIF is a very secure room that guards against electronic surveillance and suppresses data leakage of sensitive security information. A SCIF is armored, meaning no electronic data can enter or exit the space, it is regularly inspection for bugging. It is an information Black Hole.

https://www.wired.com/story/republicans-storm-scif-national-security-nightmare/

A SCIF is used to protect "classified material". Nothing Pencil Neck is doing is classified material.

Trollminator wrote:

Hey Sally nothing to add on the GOP protest huh? If Dems had done this during the Benghazi investigation your tzee heads would have exploded and Rs would have had them locked up.

Meanwhile....

https://twitter.com/Action2getherNJ/status/1187100471409938450

Getting arrested would have helped the Republican cause.

Very interesting. wrote:

you don't get it. wrote:

I don't get it . . . .

So true.

*Ding*

reality is real wrote:

Reality calling wrote:

There is a difference between theory and fact. The evidence of trump holding finances to manipulate Ukraine into an investigation is clear. Can you accept this reality or not. Please tell us.

Can you accept the reality that investigating corruption is part of the President's job?

Your type of response is why you and Rigged and Iggy and the millions like you are so damaging to our democracy. I don't know if it's due to just being dense or if severe myopia is causal. I am going to take you through this step by step (yeah I know you won't read it).

I asked you if you can accept the clear evidence of trump withholding payment to get Ukraine to investigate to help Trump's re-election. You refuse to answer or think about it. You just can't allow yourself to think about trump being guilty.

Instead you reframe things and focus on the idea that Trump is just going after corruption. Yes it's good for a president to go after corruption, but not to withhold payment and only go after corruption (without evidence) that would help his re-election. can you understand that is wrong? Also realize earlier trump cut funding to Ukraine that was earmarked as anticorruption funding.

So I ask you again can you accept evidence against trump and blame him?

I don't think so. If you can't you are not a good member of democracy. Iggy and Rigged can not do this.

you don't get it. wrote:

Very interesting. wrote:

Hmmm. . . . Then why do you care so much about Biden's son being on a board that is NOT within the United States?

I don't care that Biden's son was on a board of a company that is NOT within the united states. you clearly do not see the issue.

Here's a hypo for you. Let's say that there is reason to believe that the gov't of greece has evidence of crimes committed by the remaining Koch brother and the gov't of greece refuses to cooperate in the investigation. The President threatens to withhold aid if the gov't of greece does not cooperate in the investigation. Is this a crime?

Have you not been following the news?

A couple things....

1. Hunter Biden being on the board of a foreign company isn't illegal. Rich entitled snobs get jobs they are unqualified for all the time. Im sure the company thought having a former VP's son on the board was good for business.

2. Quid pro quo in itself is not illegal. Quid pro quo in order to investigate corruption is not illegal. Correct me if I'm wrong. Quid pro quo just looks dirty to the public. If the Quid pro quo was used just because Trump wanted dirt on a political rival then that would be illegal yes? Again, just like with Mueller its all about proving motive.

Trump gets impeached by the House but easily acquitted in the Senate. His approval will remain 41-44%.

Trump will lose 2020...bigly. Biden will have 330-350 electoral votes. Sorry left lefties...stop trying to make Warren a thing. Not happening. The GOP loses the Senate and loses more seats in the House.

Alan

Of course I can accept evidence against Trump and blame him. My point is that the issue is not as clear as you seem to think it is and it is not as you try to reframe it. I think the President's duty to enforce laws (pardon the pun) trumps the election laws. If the President was looking for "dirt" on Biden, like pictures of him in compromising situations, that's one thing. But, if there is significant evidence of crimes being committed (and I think there is), I think the President is within his powers to investigate that crime. So, even assuming Trump used a quid pro quo to get the Ukraine gov't to provide information on Biden's past dealings, I don't think its inappropriate, much less an impeachable act. If there is no evidence of wrongdoing, then Trump will not have gained any political advantage and the point is moot. Don't forget that this whole issue would have remained unknown to the American public but for the democratic whistleblower.

Now, I ask you the same, can you accept the fact that there is evidence of wrongdoing on the part of Biden? If you can't you are not a good member of society

Ciro wrote:

you don't get it. wrote:

I don't care that Biden's son was on a board of a company that is NOT within the united states. you clearly do not see the issue.

Here's a hypo for you. Let's say that there is reason to believe that the gov't of greece has evidence of crimes committed by the remaining Koch brother and the gov't of greece refuses to cooperate in the investigation. The President threatens to withhold aid if the gov't of greece does not cooperate in the investigation. Is this a crime?

Have you not been following the news?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/09/27/ukrainian-prosecutor-says-joe-biden-hunter-biden-did-not-violate-laws/3789411002/

Why do you even bother bringing this up? I don't care if Biden or BidenJr. violated Ukrainian laws.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

SCIF wrote:

Entering a SCIF without authorization is a gross violation of security procedures.

Sending out phone messages from a SCIF is verboten and an even grosser violation of security procedures

Sending out pictures of what it looks like inside a SCIF is grounds for losing your clearance.

I worked for many years in a SCIF. What is a SCIF? It is a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility.

A SCIF is a very secure room that guards against electronic surveillance and suppresses data leakage of sensitive security information. A SCIF is armored, meaning no electronic data can enter or exit the space, it is regularly inspection for bugging. It is an information Black Hole.

https://www.wired.com/story/republicans-storm-scif-national-security-nightmare/

A SCIF is used to protect "classified material". Nothing Pencil Neck is doing is classified material.

Oh is it? Please, tell us more. How about, not! You are an idiot wanker who is wrong yet again. Why do you keep posting things? You are wrong every single time, mate. A SCIF is used so that any sensitive material can be viewed without risk of spying or surveillance. It does not have to be classified. Keep your uneducated crap views to yourself you idiot wanker. While you're at it, bugger off.

yes, I have wrote:

Ciro wrote:

Have you not been following the news?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/09/27/ukrainian-prosecutor-says-joe-biden-hunter-biden-did-not-violate-laws/3789411002/

Why do you even bother bringing this up? I don't care if Biden or BidenJr. violated Ukrainian laws.

Because it is completely relevant to the hypo scenario you depicted.

Perhaps I should have been more specific. In the presented scenario, has the President committed a crime under US laws?

yes, I have wrote:

Perhaps I should have been more specific. In the presented scenario, has the President committed a crime under US laws?

No. By definition, the President cannot commit a crime under the US laws. He is immune from any criminal investigation while in office.

I see on MSNBC where the impeachment stuff is "mounting." Seriously? What happened to the Whistlblower? F*cking impeach him!!! EnoEffugh with this crap. Effing impeach him!

His dad promising to fire the Ukrainian prosecutor IS EFFING ILLEGAL. Address the fact that Joe Biden extorted those Officials. Please address his extortion.