Remember the anonymous op-ed in the NY Times? The one who said, "I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration"?
He or she just wrote a book. The author will remain anonymous and the publisher is not saying if this person is still serving in the administration. Also, it was announced that proceeds will go to charity.
agip wrote:
Ciro wrote:
I just read that article and was about to post it, agree with your analysis.
Conservatives more than anyone should read this and interpret it. They vote against the own best interests consistently. Higher minimum wage and free health care would benefit them more than anyone.
They’re so easily duped.
the problem with your argumetn is that the main issue HS educated males are dealing with is humiliation - they feel the world is against them so they lash out by voting for trump 'because he's a fighter' and 'because he doesn't take any carp,'
not sure how freaking eliz warren would make these guys feel better about themselves. Being lectured by a female harvard professor will just enrage them and cause them to do more harm to themselves. they'll feel even more separated from US culture.
It's not just economics here....
I understand your point and I’m not pushing Warren per se, but since you’ve brought her up
Forget about their feelings, a higher minimum wage and universal health care would only benefit them. Policy change, they’re far more likely to get that from Warren (for example) than Trump.
Fat hurts wrote:
Remember the anonymous op-ed in the NY Times? The one who said, "I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration"?
He or she just wrote a book. The author will remain anonymous and the publisher is not saying if this person is still serving in the administration. Also, it was announced that proceeds will go to charity.
i really hope it is kellyanne conway.
sidenote is that if the person has income from the book it will have to go on a federal form. So hard to know how this person stays anonymous
agip wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Remember the anonymous op-ed in the NY Times? The one who said, "I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration"?
He or she just wrote a book. The author will remain anonymous and the publisher is not saying if this person is still serving in the administration. Also, it was announced that proceeds will go to charity.
i really hope it is kellyanne conway.
sidenote is that if the person has income from the book it will have to go on a federal form. So hard to know how this person stays anonymous
I have to imagine that the book itself will give a lot of clues.
Many suspected it was Pence.
The book is said to make the argument that Tiny should not be re-elected. Wouldn't it just be perfect if it really is Pence?
Ciro wrote:
agip wrote:
the problem with your argumetn is that the main issue HS educated males are dealing with is humiliation - they feel the world is against them so they lash out by voting for trump 'because he's a fighter' and 'because he doesn't take any carp,'
not sure how freaking eliz warren would make these guys feel better about themselves. Being lectured by a female harvard professor will just enrage them and cause them to do more harm to themselves. they'll feel even more separated from US culture.
It's not just economics here....
I understand your point and I’m not pushing Warren per se, but since you’ve brought her up
Forget about their feelings, a higher minimum wage and universal health care would only benefit them. Policy change, they’re far more likely to get that from Warren (for example) than Trump.
yeah I guess. But things seem more tribal with these chaps...they used to run the country and now they are basket cases, being told what to think abut gays and blacks...a black president ripped them off their moorings.
I'm not sure another $1000 a year would bring these guys back into the fold.
I mean they are knocking themselves off...that's not something a few dollars or a physical will fix.
You increase solidarity by having socialism for actual needy people instead of arms manufacturers, the rich & their heirs, the fossil-fuel & chemical polluters, the drug companies.
X-Runner wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Also - not being talked about much b/c it would be jumping the gun, but if this gets too ugly and the GOP stays fully invested they might have a massive problem when it comes time to decide whether to pardon him. If he really spins out of control and public support craters they might not have an option expect take the political hit and let him burn.
One scenario would be he survives impeachment, loses the election and gets convicted for charges in 2021 with a Democrat as president.
He's not getting a pardon then.
He needs to do the Nixon thing, step down and have the Republican VP pardon him in advance.
A Dem president would deny Pence pardoning Trump because,
United States Constitution, Article II, Section 2:
... and he [the President] shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.
P wrote:
I have since become convinced that fear and the notion that "we are victims" drive the whole Trump phenomenon. The article here is perhaps not news to many on here. But it is rather stunning to me. White men are literally dying of despair.
White men can no longer claim ethic superiority, and bully people they don't like around. That is their despair.
Except 4 wrote:
X-Runner wrote:
One scenario would be he survives impeachment, loses the election and gets convicted for charges in 2021 with a Democrat as president.
He's not getting a pardon then.
He needs to do the Nixon thing, step down and have the Republican VP pardon him in advance.
A Dem president would deny Pence pardoning Trump because,
United States Constitution, Article II, Section 2:
... and he [the President] shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.
How could you have a Dem president and Pence pardon Trump?
Anyway, if Trump resigns before formally being impeached, Pence becomes president can Pardon Trump.
Exactly how Ford pardoned Nixon.
Who you got, the dems or the whiny bikers? I’m thinking the dems in a landslide.
Ciro wrote:
Forget about their feelings, a higher minimum wage and universal health care would only benefit them. Policy change, they’re far more likely to get that from Warren (for example) than Trump.
Yeah, why do we need to treat them like special snowflakes whose fragile ego has to be coddled by everyone else? Why do we have to worry so much about them doing harm to themselves, instead of worrying about how much harm they have already done to the rest of us, and will continue to do so unless we stop them?
X-Runner wrote:
Anyway, if Trump resigns before formally being impeached, Pence becomes president can Pardon Trump.
Exactly how Ford pardoned Nixon.
Not correct. There is nothing in the Constitution that requires formal impeachment. A president can resign during the process but the process is not required to stop at that point. Trump can still be impeached. If Pence tries to pardon him while the process is not complete, and a Democrat becomes the next president then Pence's pardon of Trump would be considered in violation of the Constitution. There is no get out of jail free card Trump and the Republicans can pull once the impeachment process starts.
The russians split & nobody told Ghost!
There is nothing in the Constitution that requires formal impeachment to stop.
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In the case of Nixon, Ford's pardon because Carter and the Democrats let it be. Ford was president for 2-1/2 years. Pence might be president for less than a year. A pardon IS NOT absolute in the case of impeachment. The Constitution has that in there for a reason.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
https://libertyblitzkrieg.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Screen-Shot-2019-10-22-at-10.33.53-AM.jpg
And I always thought that the key to avoid taking responsibility was to constantly post nothing but links to simplistic cartoons.
Not Born in the USA wrote:
Ciro wrote:
Forget about their feelings, a higher minimum wage and universal health care would only benefit them. Policy change, they’re far more likely to get that from Warren (for example) than Trump.
Yeah, why do we need to treat them like special snowflakes whose fragile ego has to be coddled by everyone else? Why do we have to worry so much about them doing harm to themselves, instead of worrying about how much harm they have already done to the rest of us, and will continue to do so unless we stop them?
because they have a sh/tton of semi-automatic weapons and all but one president looks like them.
Well, there is always this wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
https://libertyblitzkrieg.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Screen-Shot-2019-10-22-at-10.33.53-AM.jpgAnd I always thought that the key to avoid taking responsibility was to constantly post nothing but links to simplistic cartoons.
And I always thought that to avoid being rational you blame it on Russians.
Well, there is always this wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
https://libertyblitzkrieg.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Screen-Shot-2019-10-22-at-10.33.53-AM.jpgAnd I always thought that the key to avoid taking responsibility was to constantly post nothing but links to simplistic cartoons.
Life is very difficult for those who are true believers. Imagine going through life having to do back flips to maintain your view of trump as a honest tell it like it is leader.
Poor Guy has to find solace in combing through altra-right rags for pictures to forward.
greg sargent in the wapo. Sums it up well.
I'd add that trump has been asking and welcoming other nations to corrupt our elections from day one.
"But again, what we already know is impeachable. Whether there was a quid pro quo, Trump used the power of the presidency to leverage a foreign leader into helping him corrupt our democracy, by helping sustain a conspiracy theory to absolve Russia of sabotaging our election on his behalf in 2016, and smearing his opponent in 2020. The multipronged betrayal of our country is already extraordinary and damning."
