Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

In the past the Democratic Party was always reluctant to get involved in foreign entanglements. What happened?

Have they?

Isn’t the current situation in Syria relating the Kurds perhaps a little different than simply getting involved in foreign entanglement?

nob wrote:

So will Pelosi have a vote on the impeachment inquiry? Or do her Democrats understand they are walking on very thin ice?

Trump says he will cooperate if they have a vote.

Does show how weak the dem impeachment case is though. So not having a vote is useful that way.

No, you have a very poor understanding of this process. There is no law or language in the constitution that states a vote in the House is required to start an impeachment inquiry which a majority of Americans now approve of. Also, it has been tradition for members of the executive branch to cooperate with House investigations. For example, Hillary Clinton turned over 10s of thousands of documents during her tenure as Secretary of State and she sat for 11 hours of open door testimony. What has Pompeo—who rightly called for the then Secretary of State to fully cooperate with the House investigation—done and said now that he is Secretary of State?

What did Trey Gowdy say about executive branch cooperation with House Investigations when he was in the House? His prior public statements on this topic were spot on btw.

So, the main reason why Nancy won’t call for a vote is that such a vote would only empower those Hypocrites on the right who have already shown a lack of integrity in this process.

other impeachment inquiries had a floor vote. That this one does not shows you how weak the case is and how tenuous the Dems are.

Pelosi doesn't want to force purple district dems to vote on it. that's all. it's cowardice.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

In the past the Democratic Party was always reluctant to get involved in foreign entanglements. What happened?

If you haven’t noticed they would rather go and leave responsibly. But thx for offering yet another whataboutism.

nob wrote:

So will Pelosi have a vote on the impeachment inquiry? Or do her Democrats understand they are walking on very thin ice?

Trump says he will cooperate if they have a vote.

Does show how weak the dem impeachment case is though. So not having a vote is useful that way.

Breitbart claims a vote was already taken. Except that it hasn't.

Breitbart make a false claim headline about a vote to shoot down a weak attempt by Kevin MaCarthy (R) to stop Pelosi from proceeding with the impeachment inquiry by introducing a resolution condemning her. But, that is not a vote to approve the impeachment inquiry. It is a vote to force McCarthy's resolution to fail.

The House of Representatives never takes a vote of the entire chamber for anything that must go through the committee(s) first.

Let me repeat that for thickheaded Trump supporters.

The House of Representatives never takes a vote of the entire chamber for anything that must go through the committee(s) first.

So, a vote is not required. And Trump and Trumpers can scream all they want.

Go educate yourself - not too long House Rs voted to remove the minority party’s subpoena power. They got fvkn greedy. Do you understand what that means? It means Nancy isn’t required to put it up for a vote because Rs changed the rules - and they were warned back then it could backfire. That time has come. GTFO with your complaining, you’ve got nothing.

and the reason the other impeachment inquiries did have a floor vote authorizing them is.....

I'll wait.

Night Observer wrote:

View from enlightened Republican. A Fox poll indicates that 51% of the population want trump impeached AND removed.

Democrats, independents and Republicans universally condemn is betrayal of our allies the Kurds. Real Conservatives are turning against trump. When the avalanche starts, there will be a mass exodus from trump. Trump's behavior has accelerated this.

Everyone thought my guess of Romney stepping in was crazy. I think it will happen. The new Democrat activists will prevent Biden from winning. It will be between Warren and Romney. Romney has a good shot to win. For this to work, we need trump to drop out soon.

Most other enlightened Republicans see Trump is deteriorating very quickly. Time to remove that ceo from leading our country. He is dangerous, we all know that.

Trump knows that if he waits too long --after the Senate votes to impeach him, and it does-- that he will lose a lot of money, and that is a great pain to a needed fake billionaire. Trump would lose: $400,000/year in pension, 100% taxpayer funded health care, secret service protection for life, taxpayers funding a ex-president's office including full paid for staff and coverage of all travel expenses.

nob wrote:

Pence would be the replacement, not Romney. Pence would keep the magas and bring in the traditional conservatives too.

Romney has massive baggage and the magas hate him.

You are confused. Pence has a lot more baggage than Romney.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Trump promised to bring our troops home and to take America out of senseless, endless wars that don't benefit our interests. This is something that Democrats and Trump's detractors have failed to do.

He's keeping these promises

He's also taking care of our veterans

We are not the world's police

We are not the world's babysitter

America First

KAG2020

Blanket statements are rarely accurate.

Penced wrote:

nob wrote:

Pence would be the replacement, not Romney. Pence would keep the magas and bring in the traditional conservatives too.

Romney has massive baggage and the magas hate him.

You are confused. Pence has a lot more baggage than Romney.

did pence run twice for president and lose each time?

was pence shown to be an absolutely unrepentant liar during elecitons?

did pence turn against the leader of his party in a crisis?

Pence did none of these things. He is a classic evangelical/movement conservative and has experience as veep. He is liked well enough by magas and conservatives. He would be the Trump replacement, no question.

Sally Vix wrote:

Conundrum wrote:

Chortle, chortle.

I think Sally is a troll who on occasion posts rationally when she is trolling not being a troll. .......But she is still a troll.

Flagpole is about the sharpest dude here. I mean the absolute SHARPEST dude here. You are telling me he is just realizing now after like a year I am a troll. For 12 months the sharpest dude here didn't realize I am a troll? So, either Flagpole is NOT the sharpest dude here or I am NOT a troll. Fat Hurts has a STEM degree - he is very, very smart. He can spot a troll a mile (or even 3 miles away). He and Flagpole would know by now that I am not a troll. Conclusion- I am not a troll.

That's it, Sally boy, reel Flagpole back in. Shame he didn't take your bait last time. But this time, appeal to his vanity. Genius, I tell you! Pure genius. There's no way that Flaggy will still ignore you after that. You got him for sure!

nob wrote:

other impeachment inquiries had a floor vote. That this one does not shows you how weak the case is and how tenuous the Dems are.

Pelosi doesn't want to force purple district dems to vote on it. that's all. it's cowardice.

All other presidential requests for diversions of congressionally approved money went to congress for a vote. In Trump's regime he has decided that congressional voting was unnecessary and he proceeded to divert the money anyway.

nob wrote:

Penced wrote:

You are confused. Pence has a lot more baggage than Romney.

did pence run twice for president and lose each time?

was pence shown to be an absolutely unrepentant liar during elecitons?

did pence turn against the leader of his party in a crisis?

Pence did none of these things. He is a classic evangelical/movement conservative and has experience as veep. He is liked well enough by magas and conservatives. He would be the Trump replacement, no question.

You are flailing wildly about.

You are confused. Pence has a lot more baggage than Romney.

Pence is NOT electable.

Penced wrote:

nob wrote:

did pence run twice for president and lose each time?

was pence shown to be an absolutely unrepentant liar during elecitons?

did pence turn against the leader of his party in a crisis?

Pence did none of these things. He is a classic evangelical/movement conservative and has experience as veep. He is liked well enough by magas and conservatives. He would be the Trump replacement, no question.

You are flailing wildly about.

You are confused. Pence has a lot more baggage than Romney.

Pence is NOT electable.

ok teach me

what is pence's baggage? The kind of baggage that would hurt him with R voters.

jesseriley wrote:

New slogan: “Feed Donald Trump to the Kurds.”

Kurds? No way!

nob wrote:

ok teach me

what is pence's baggage? The kind of baggage that would hurt him with R voters.

0/10

No need to wonder whether trump would do everything in his power to stay in the spotlight even after he’s gone. He would throw Pence and anyone else under the bus and would completely botch up the GOP’s chances of keeping the WH.

Trump Pension wrote:

Trump knows that if he waits too long --after the Senate votes to impeach him, and it does-- that he will lose a lot of money . . . .

Uh huh. Except it's the House that impeaches, not the Senate.

But otherwise, sure.