Trigged the difference between you and me is that I would want Biden to go down IF he is guilty of illegal activity. You don’t want Trump to go down no matter what. You’re subservient to Trump, you’re his b!tch.
Trigged the difference between you and me is that I would want Biden to go down IF he is guilty of illegal activity. You don’t want Trump to go down no matter what. You’re subservient to Trump, you’re his b!tch.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
A Cankles comeback? I brought up this scenario a couple days ago. What say you, libs- would you vote for Cankles over Quid Pro Joe & Pocahontas?
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/09/politics/hillary-clinton-2020-donald-trump/index.htmlhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7555029/Donald-Trump-says-Hillary-Clinton-run-2020-claims-beat-again.html
To answer your question, I personally would prefer HRC to Biden or Warren but I recognize that HRC has a ton of baggage, has already lost to Trump once and probably wouldn't be the best nominee.
Both Biden and Warren have their pluses and minuses. I think Biden's problems have been overstated in the press and I prefer the more business-oriented Democrats but Biden did not do well when he ran before for Prez (losing the 1988 nomination badly to Mike Dukakis, who is not a legendary vote-getter; the miss in 2008 is more understandable) and I can't believe he's sharper now than he was then. As for Warren, she's definitely towards the left wing of the party; some of her proposals may not be wise though I haven't looked at all of them in detail. Regardless, either one is vastly preferable to the current occupant.
Just curious...to the conservatives who post in this thread...of the plausible Democratic candidates, who would match up against Trump the best in your opinion? Of course, you think Trump will win regardless but who should the Dems run to get the most votes?
Corrector wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Let's not forget that they covered it up too. By putting these call reports in that super secret server, it should consciousness of guilt.
There was no cover up. You need to get you info from more reliable sources (or perhaps just not make things up). There was a Times or Post article that came out BEFORE the call outlining the WH practice of putting ALL phone conversation recordings on different (or as you say, "SECRET") servers.
Get educated on this subject or stop making things up.
Nope...cover up.
Hey Flagpole is this OK?
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/617936-amp.html
zephito wrote:
To answer your question, I personally would prefer HRC to Biden or Warren but I recognize that HRC has a ton of baggage, has already lost to Trump once and probably wouldn't be the best nominee.
Both Biden and Warren have their pluses and minuses. I think Biden's problems have been overstated in the press and I prefer the more business-oriented Democrats but Biden did not do well when he ran before for Prez (losing the 1988 nomination badly to Mike Dukakis, who is not a legendary vote-getter; the miss in 2008 is more understandable) and I can't believe he's sharper now than he was then. As for Warren, she's definitely towards the left wing of the party; some of her proposals may not be wise though I haven't looked at all of them in detail. Regardless, either one is vastly preferable to the current occupant.
Just curious...to the conservatives who post in this thread...of the plausible Democratic candidates, who would match up against Trump the best in your opinion? Of course, you think Trump will win regardless but who should the Dems run to get the most votes?
One of the many ironic things surrounding our Presidency is that because a truckload of idiots in this country elected an incompetent, racist, criminal, conman, the push back election will likely be a liberal who is even more liberal (in some areas) than even I would choose. If Trump isn't removed from office or doesn't resign, or doesn't say he will not run n 2020, the electorate will choose the one who is NOT Trump.
Trump should start working a plan to make a deal for his removal from office. It IS his best option. The plan should include NO incendiary speech on his part once he is out. Not sure he could adhere to that, but the deal should involve imprisonment if he does.
Sally Vix wrote:
Ciro wrote:
This is exactly why I have ignored you and will revert to ignoring after this.
I very clearly said I welcome alternative views but again you repeat the same sound bytes relating to that.
It’s painful tedious and offers nothing of value. I will continue to engage conservative posters who I disagree with that aren’t you.
It should be "whom you have disagreed with" but we can overlook that. Wink wink.
No, it should be "with whom you have disagreed". How embarrassing for you.
Assuming that is true and verified then no it is no ok. But you weren’t troubled by Paul Manafort lobbying in the Ukraine and neither was/is Trump.
Hold the people you VOTE for accountable. Expect something in return, don’t just give them blinded loyalty.
Grammar Kerrecter wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
It should be "whom you have disagreed with" but we can overlook that. Wink wink.
No, it should be "with whom you have disagreed". How embarrassing for you.
I caught you ! Nice one!
Ciro wrote:
Trigged the difference between you and me is that I would want Biden to go down IF he is guilty of illegal activity. You don’t want Trump to go down no matter what. You’re subservient to Trump, you’re his b!tch.
If Trump had committed a crime and had been indicted by Mueller, then I would agree with you. However, the Pelosi Hail Mary was your last hurrah and it's all beginning to fall apart. Plus, it put a spotlight on and utterly destroyed Quid Pro Joe's campaign.
#Trumplandslide
KAG2020
Ciro wrote:
Assuming that is true and verified then no it is no ok. But you weren’t troubled by Paul Manafort lobbying in the Ukraine and neither was/is Trump.
Hold the people you VOTE for accountable. Expect something in return, don’t just give them blinded loyalty.
Paul Manafort is in prison for whatever crimes he was convicted of. It seems to me the Bidens are bit of a slime as well. The good thing is the “impeachment inquiry” and the Mueller Investigation are uncovering many other nefarious affairs. I guess we will see where they lead.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Hey Flagpole is this OK?
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/617936-amp.html
Some things:
1) I would have to investigate to see if that indeed was ILLEGAL. There are things that don't rise to the level of illegal that are still not ok. I have already said that Biden's son getting that job there was at least a bad idea from an optics point of view. There is no evidence of wrongdoing by either Biden to date.
2) I have never heard of en.interfax.com.ua before, so until a reputable news organization does a story on this, I can't really put any weight on it.
3) Nothing that Joe Biden does or has done makes any difference with regard to what TRUMP has done. Might make me hope that Warren is the Democrat nominee, but I already prefer her to Biden anyway.
4) Donald Trump is the President, and HE is a clear and present danger to our democracy. His removal from office (by legal means only) is paramount.
It is shameful that you support a President who is openly criminal. Shame on you.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Ciro wrote:
Trigged the difference between you and me is that I would want Biden to go down IF he is guilty of illegal activity. You don’t want Trump to go down no matter what. You’re subservient to Trump, you’re his b!tch.
If Trump had committed a crime and had been indicted by Mueller, then I would agree with you. However, the Pelosi Hail Mary was your last hurrah and it's all beginning to fall apart. Plus, it put a spotlight on and utterly destroyed Quid Pro Joe's campaign.
#Trumplandslide
KAG2020
Paul Manafort - you and Trump are either okay with Ukrainian lobbying or you’re not. Consistency would be nice.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Ciro wrote:
Assuming that is true and verified then no it is no ok. But you weren’t troubled by Paul Manafort lobbying in the Ukraine and neither was/is Trump.
Hold the people you VOTE for accountable. Expect something in return, don’t just give them blinded loyalty.
Paul Manafort is in prison for whatever crimes he was convicted of. It seems to me the Bidens are bit of a slime as well. The good thing is the “impeachment inquiry” and the Mueller Investigation are uncovering many other nefarious affairs. I guess we will see where they lead.
He is in prison for his crimes but Trump has nothing but public support and sympathy for Manafort. It’s massively hypocritical.
Flagpole wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Hey Flagpole is this OK?
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/617936-amp.htmlSome things:
1) I would have to investigate to see if that indeed was ILLEGAL. There are things that don't rise to the level of illegal that are still not ok. I have already said that Biden's son getting that job there was at least a bad idea from an optics point of view. There is no evidence of wrongdoing by either Biden to date.
2) I have never heard of en.interfax.com.ua before, so until a reputable news organization does a story on this, I can't really put any weight on it.
3) Nothing that Joe Biden does or has done makes any difference with regard to what TRUMP has done. Might make me hope that Warren is the Democrat nominee, but I already prefer her to Biden anyway.
4) Donald Trump is the President, and HE is a clear and present danger to our democracy. His removal from office (by legal means only) is paramount.
It is shameful that you support a President who is openly criminal. Shame on you.
Flagpole - thumbs up on you supporting the removal of the president by legal means. Nice one. We all hate him but he should be removed by legal means. Very nice!
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Ciro wrote:
Trigged the difference between you and me is that I would want Biden to go down IF he is guilty of illegal activity. You don’t want Trump to go down no matter what. You’re subservient to Trump, you’re his b!tch.
If Trump had committed a crime and had been indicted by Mueller, then I would agree with you. However, the Pelosi Hail Mary was your last hurrah and it's all beginning to fall apart. Plus, it put a spotlight on and utterly destroyed Quid Pro Joe's campaign.
#Trumplandslide
KAG2020
I doubt it, I expect you’d have called it a deep state conspiracy and carried on aimlessly.
Good news is the civil war will be led by Gen. Heel Spurs & his very courageous fighting force of @ss kissers!
I mean, I am scared. Let’s hope those formidable trumpers can even get off their knees after being bent over so long.
Confederate fanboys threatening to start a second civil war to defend an east coast billionaire draft dodger who is a Russian asset.
Wonderful stuff.
Ciro wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
If Trump had committed a crime and had been indicted by Mueller, then I would agree with you. However, the Pelosi Hail Mary was your last hurrah and it's all beginning to fall apart. Plus, it put a spotlight on and utterly destroyed Quid Pro Joe's campaign.
#Trumplandslide
KAG2020
Paul Manafort - you and Trump are either okay with Ukrainian lobbying or you’re not. Consistency would be nice.
I slammed Manafort months ago on this thread. His crimes were years before Trump announced his candidacy.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Ciro wrote:
Paul Manafort - you and Trump are either okay with Ukrainian lobbying or you’re not. Consistency would be nice.
I slammed Manafort months ago on this thread. His crimes were years before Trump announced his candidacy.
The Liberals here will crucify you no matter what. Get hardened.
https://time.com/5547607/paul-manafort-sentencing-donald-trump/Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Ciro wrote:
Paul Manafort - you and Trump are either okay with Ukrainian lobbying or you’re not. Consistency would be nice.
I slammed Manafort months ago on this thread. His crimes were years before Trump announced his candidacy.
Your hero has done anything but slam Manafort.