agip wrote:
what? trump lied to the nation? WHAT?????????!!!!!!!!!
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-deficit-debt-cbo-data-obama-1463802
Even Lindsey Graham just called him a liar. It's really incredible. He actually came out and said the administration was lying.
Ciro wrote:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-kurds-turkey-istanbul_n_5d9b82ffe4b03b475f9de498?section=politics&ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000013&utm_campaign=hp_fb_pages&utm_source=politics_fb&utm_medium=facebook&fbclid=IwAR0JgTfTM7taTZtwK82pMJ4sIaKDAMxsDb6xHRqH-Cw2jdzobSyE3ZzIqzUTrump First, America somewhere behind Saudi Arabia, Russia and Israel.
And the bottom of the list looks something like:
traditional European allies, Mexico, 50+ s*hole countries, Kurds.
Monkeys typing wrote:
Sally Vix wrote: multiple posts ending 10/8/2019 2:43AM EST
Sally Vix wrote: multiple posts starting 10/8/2019 6:08AM EST
The situation must be getting serious. Does the troll farm pay overtime?
Sally claims she has a "job". He maths only works for a paid LRC troll.
[quote]Ciro wrote:
You were told he’d drain the swamp.
-- He filled the swamp with his more slimy creatures.
You were told he taken on corruption.
-- He took it upon himself to be the most corrupt of all.
You were told he’d look out for the little guy.
-- He looked out as the little guy went bankrupt (just like me he smiled.)
Trump is counting on winning certain states in 2020: the state of permanent emergency; the state of insanity; West Virginia; California (minus all those illegal voters); a state of war between USA & everybody else; etc.
This WH block will backfire for sure. Dems doing well to let it sink in and then continue pressing. From now on they are just collecting instances of obstruction. Every time trump prevents their inquiry from making progress he loses credibility. He's playing into their game now and he's way behind the learning curve. Law and order prevails in the end.
agip wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Can Trump get away with this?
"I would love to send Ambassador Sondland, a really good man and great American, to testify, but unfortunately he would be testifying before a totally compromised kangaroo court, where Republican’s rights have been taken away, and true facts are not allowed out for the public to see."
That the White House wants to stone wall makes it likely that the Ukrainians were told their military aid was contingent on starting a Biden investigation. Can the House Judiciary Committee force him to testify? If Trump is successful in preventing Sindland from testifying will it hurt him in the polls?
for some reason the Dems are very very very reluctant to escalate this. The Dems don't want to fight. They just simply can't believe that the WH is run by an organized crime family and will do everything it can do to save itself. The Dems believe everyone at their core is for good solid honest, if messy, government. They will never believe that the Rs in the WH are actually garbage common criminals, interested in money and crime rather than doing good honest work.
Someone is going to have to go nuts on the dem side and start throwing people in jail for not following the law. This guy sondland would be a perfect first guy to get a giant daily fine or be thrown in jail for ignoring congressional subpoenaes.
agip, this is straight up cringe.
"dEmS BeLiEvE EvErYoNe aT ThEiR CoRe iS FoR GoOd sOlId hOnEsT" get the fvck outta here with that sophomore sociology major at a random D3 liberal arts college bullsh!t.
Democrats are reluctant? No sh!t, public opinion is barely on their side right now and everyday it becomes increasingly obvious that 2020 isn't going to be the slam dunk that everyone thought it would be. Democrats in the House and Senate are there for the same reason Republicans are : to get themselves and their friends rich by not really doing anything at all and/or by constantly pumping the military industrial complex. Full on impeachment is risky until public opinion against Trump gets hotter. Losing their seat in the House/Senate means they'd have to get a real job which is the one thing government workers (including Dems and Republicans) are united against.
Everyone lost wrote:
The Senate won't impeach. He's guilty as sin but they won't do it.
jesseriley wrote:
Smiling his way through impeachment: weirdo!
You mean they won't convict. It's Congress that impeaches, not the senate.
Sally Vix wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Agreed. Any deal he can cut though can POSSIBLY lessen his punishments. It will be interesting to see which way he goes.
How many times are you going to say he is going to prison? As Churchill said, if you are going to take Vienna, take Vienna! If you say Trump is going to prison, he has to go to prison!!! Enough with this BS. Quit saying he is going to prison. He is enjoying life in the Oval Office while you, Flagpole, still are in Ohio! Oh ... the misery that must be.
As long as you stay civil, I will continue to respond to you IF I FEEL LIKE IT. I will likely not respond to you when you spout right-wing conspiracy crap or if you ask a question you have asked before that has been answered.
1) Trump is going to go to prison. Your Vienna comment has no bearing here, because he can't go to prison until he is out of office.
2) I wouldn't trade my life for Trump's. He's bad at relationships. He's a bad businessman. He has a ton of investigators looking into all aspects of his life, he is going to face serious legal issues when he is out of office involving both fines and prison, and he has idiot adult children. As he has some serious mental issues, I don't know if he's enjoying his life in the White House or not, but whether he is or not makes no difference. He is a criminal, a serial liar, a racist, and a whole lot of other bad things.
Oh, and in case you didn't know...
Mueller is still coming.
The clown is done.
Trollminator wrote:
This WH block will backfire for sure. Dems doing well to let it sink in and then continue pressing. From now on they are just collecting instances of obstruction. Every time trump prevents their inquiry from making progress he loses credibility. He's playing into their game now and he's way behind the learning curve. Law and order prevails in the end.
Besides Trump, the others who are risking impeachment for this inquiry include Pompeo and Barr. If the tax return issue is added to the inquiry then Mnuchin will face impeachment. It would not be difficult to add tax returns to the Ukraine/China extortion inquiry because the money trail to Trump's personal coffers, and campaign "donations", need to be looked into.
What ever happened to MSNBC? It used to be a left-leaning organization but now it is Impeachment 24/7. They quit covering actual news long ago. First they spent all their time for almost 3 years covering the Mueller probe and now it is Impeachment non-stop. Just a shame what it has become. If Trump committed truly impeachable offenses, why the hell is the House on recess? What happens when this impeachment drive fizzles? And it will. What will the House Democrats focus on next to try to reverse the 2016 election? Don't they have legislation to pass? They already had 6 House committees looking into Trump. For anyone to suggest this is not a witch hunt rode the short bus to school. Seriously, this is absurd what the Dems are doing.
Flagpole wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
How many times are you going to say he is going to prison? As Churchill said, if you are going to take Vienna, take Vienna! If you say Trump is going to prison, he has to go to prison!!! Enough with this BS. Quit saying he is going to prison. He is enjoying life in the Oval Office while you, Flagpole, still are in Ohio! Oh ... the misery that must be.
As long as you stay civil, I will continue to respond to you IF I FEEL LIKE IT. I will likely not respond to you when you spout right-wing conspiracy crap or if you ask a question you have asked before that has been answered.
1) Trump is going to go to prison. Your Vienna comment has no bearing here, because he can't go to prison until he is out of office.
2) I wouldn't trade my life for Trump's. He's bad at relationships. He's a bad businessman. He has a ton of investigators looking into all aspects of his life, he is going to face serious legal issues when he is out of office involving both fines and prison, and he has idiot adult children. As he has some serious mental issues, I don't know if he's enjoying his life in the White House or not, but whether he is or not makes no difference. He is a criminal, a serial liar, a racist, and a whole lot of other bad things.
Oh, and in case you didn't know...
Mueller is still coming.
The clown is done.
I do appreciate your response. I also understand that whether you respond is up to YOU and your prerogative. It is not, unfortunately up to me, alas. How can you say Trump is a bad businessman? Sure his dad gave him a lot of money but he has parlayed that money into a $3 Billion real estate empire. Yes, that is not million, that is BILLION. How many of us would have squandered that money if we had been given it? 80%? Higher? He is not a bad businessman. He is close to being a genius businessman. You have to admit that.
Imagine paying $1,050 plus to see Michelle Malkin ?
I thought Trump was suppose to be your strong man ?
Bigots lose again.
https://news.yahoo.com/fans-furious-trump-mar-lago-090147891.html
Senate finally releases bipartisan report that Russia helped trump. I guess impeachment is even affecting Moscow Mitch!
Sally Vix wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
As long as you stay civil, I will continue to respond to you IF I FEEL LIKE IT. I will likely not respond to you when you spout right-wing conspiracy crap or if you ask a question you have asked before that has been answered.
1) Trump is going to go to prison. Your Vienna comment has no bearing here, because he can't go to prison until he is out of office.
2) I wouldn't trade my life for Trump's. He's bad at relationships. He's a bad businessman. He has a ton of investigators looking into all aspects of his life, he is going to face serious legal issues when he is out of office involving both fines and prison, and he has idiot adult children. As he has some serious mental issues, I don't know if he's enjoying his life in the White House or not, but whether he is or not makes no difference. He is a criminal, a serial liar, a racist, and a whole lot of other bad things.
Oh, and in case you didn't know...
Mueller is still coming.
The clown is done.
I do appreciate your response. I also understand that whether you respond is up to YOU and your prerogative. It is not, unfortunately up to me, alas. How can you say Trump is a bad businessman? Sure his dad gave him a lot of money but he has parlayed that money into a $3 Billion real estate empire. Yes, that is not million, that is BILLION. How many of us would have squandered that money if we had been given it? 80%? Higher? He is not a bad businessman. He is close to being a genius businessman. You have to admit that.
I forgot in closing to say I will be on my best behavior. No more right-wing conspiracy stuff!
Trollminator wrote:
This WH block will backfire for sure. Dems doing well to let it sink in and then continue pressing. From now on they are just collecting instances of obstruction. Every time trump prevents their inquiry from making progress he loses credibility. He's playing into their game now and he's way behind the learning curve. Law and order prevails in the end.
Each time they block evidence it adds a count of obstruction of justice and it holds up the impeachment vote.
It seems like the House can keep sending new requests and subpoenas for weeks, if not months.
I don't think Nancy wants to take a vote anytime soon but needs a trickle of new obstruction cases to keep the public into it.
This process also seems to be grating on Sally's nerves and making Rigged come up with even crazier posts than usual.
Sally Vix wrote:
What ever happened to MSNBC? It used to be a left-leaning organization but now it is Impeachment 24/7. They quit covering actual news long ago.
Fox News on the other hand is covering the Elizabeth Warren pregnancy scandal, Lindsey Graham's offer to Guliani to testify against Biden, and (really) a cat video as the top three headlines.
Trumpanzee Finder wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
If you denounce your belief in a global scientific conspiracy, I'll gladly discuss it with you.
But since you won't, I'll continue to consider that you are simply crazy. And there is no point debating someone who is insane.
You can’t argue with pure stupidity. They point to ice ages and say that’s why this is fake news. They point to some democrat who may have lied and say that’s why trump hasn’t done anything wrong. It’s completely warped. These guys have more teeth than brain cells - don’t waste yours on them.
CORRECT! I have told you, Fat Hurts, that you should stop replying to Rigged, because he is EITHER a troll or just flat insane...Sally too, but Sally has shown some time lately outside of insaneville (but still too much time in it). Right-wing conspiracy theories and supporting Trump is not a recipe for a healthy mind.
There are only two kinds of people, other than elected officials, who still support Trump:
1) JUST stupid.
2) Racist.
There are no other possibilities.
X-Runner wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
This WH block will backfire for sure. Dems doing well to let it sink in and then continue pressing. From now on they are just collecting instances of obstruction. Every time trump prevents their inquiry from making progress he loses credibility. He's playing into their game now and he's way behind the learning curve. Law and order prevails in the end.
Each time they block evidence it adds a count of obstruction of justice and it holds up the impeachment vote.
It seems like the House can keep sending new requests and subpoenas for weeks, if not months.
I don't think Nancy wants to take a vote anytime soon but needs a trickle of new obstruction cases to keep the public into it.
This process also seems to be grating on Sally's nerves and making Rigged come up with even crazier posts than usual.
Why do we need more obstruction cases? I thought that Trump had already committed impeachable offenses. Are those "impeachable offenses" maybe not SO impeachable? You guys are already going after obstruction. This is what happened with the Mueller investigation. There was nothing there that he found and you were left to going after obstruction. History is repeating itself. No longer are you confident with "impeachable offenses" that he committed. Now it is obstruction. Oh so tough to keep up with the bouncing ball!