Stakes? wrote:
Are you going away if Trump is impeached or just if he is not re-elected?
I am honoring the original Runningart pledge. I don't change the rules or move goalposts as LL as done.
KAG2020
Stakes? wrote:
Are you going away if Trump is impeached or just if he is not re-elected?
I am honoring the original Runningart pledge. I don't change the rules or move goalposts as LL as done.
KAG2020
Half-way there wrote:
Punctuation wrote:
You learned to use punctuation for your send post. Well-done.
Thanks, dude!
I am not a dude (male).
Okay, my usual thought experiment (bearing in mind that I've never pulled the Democratic lever for any office in any election):
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If in 2011 Barack Obama had solicited the aid of, say, Serbia in digging up some dirt on his likely GOP rival-to-be in the 2012 general election . . . what American would not be OUTRAGED to learn of it? And think it was worthy of impeachment?
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And if a Trump supporter would have been outraged then, WHY are you not outraged about a similar situation now?
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This whole Ukraine business might not end up being much, in the grand scheme of things: I've consistently opined that having committed PROVEN election-finance felonies, for which your co-conspirator is currently in prison, was much more salient.
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But I'd be really interested to know how the Trumpists have managed to be okay with the President's dealings with Ukraine. Not an argument this time, I'm really curious--so no changing the topic or what-abouts, please--what is it about this situation, compared to the hypothetical one in 2011, that makes it okay?
Jabba the Hut Nadler certainly changed his tune on impeachment in 1998. Damn he was YUUUUUUUUGE back then.
Here is a 25 sec sound bite:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Jabba the Hut Nadler certainly changed his tune on impeachment in 1998. Damn he was YUUUUUUUUGE back then.
Here is a 25 sec sound bite:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1176939464612073475
How many all-you-can-eat buffets has that beached whale bankrupted?
X-Runner wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Here is how I see this playing out.
Democrats in the house vote for impeachment just before the end of the year.
The senate does take up the matter, but moves very slowly. The whole process drags on to the summer of 2020. Then there are calls to just let the people decide at the ballot box.
So Republican senators never have to take the tough vote.
But which party does that favor more?
That's a good scenario for Democrats who want people to come out to vote against Trump.
Republicans may want a different nominee than Trump but are scared to support another Republican against him in the primaries.
Their best move may be to survive the primaries, then convict Trump and have him removed before the convention.
Then put up someone like Romney in the general vs Biden or Warren or whoever.
Republicans fear crossing Trump in a Republican primary, but also fear being associated with Trump in the general.
I know this is too much to ask for ANY politician, Democrat or Republican, but integrity calls for Congressional oversight NO MATTER the political consequences.
As I have 100% integrity 100% of the time, I HAVE to be for impeachment WHENEVER there are impeachable offenses, NO MATTER who it is. I would vote to impeach my mother if she were President and engaged in impeachable offenses.
kibitzer wrote:
Okay, my usual thought experiment (bearing in mind that I've never pulled the Democratic lever for any office in any election):
.
If in 2011 Barack Obama had solicited the aid of, say, Serbia in digging up some dirt on his likely GOP rival-to-be in the 2012 general election . . . what American would not be OUTRAGED to learn of it? And think it was worthy of impeachment?
.
And if a Trump supporter would have been outraged then, WHY are you not outraged about a similar situation now?
.
This whole Ukraine business might not end up being much, in the grand scheme of things: I've consistently opined that having committed PROVEN election-finance felonies, for which your co-conspirator is currently in prison, was much more salient.
.
But I'd be really interested to know how the Trumpists have managed to be okay with the President's dealings with Ukraine. Not an argument this time, I'm really curious--so no changing the topic or what-abouts, please--what is it about this situation, compared to the hypothetical one in 2011, that makes it okay?
You are asking something from iggy and rigged that psychologically they are unable to do. This is particularly difficult to do when your perception about something that is important to you is threatened.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Jabba the Hut Nadler certainly changed his tune on impeachment in 1998. Damn he was YUUUUUUUUGE back then.
Here is a 25 sec sound bite:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1176939464612073475How many all-you-can-eat buffets has that beached whale bankrupted?
Aren't you the big baby who complained about name calling? You do it all the time. At least Nadler did something about his weight. Trump and Giuliani and Barr are all fat, as if that means anything.
Conundrum wrote:
kibitzer wrote:
Okay, my usual thought experiment (bearing in mind that I've never pulled the Democratic lever for any office in any election):
.
If in 2011 Barack Obama had solicited the aid of, say, Serbia in digging up some dirt on his likely GOP rival-to-be in the 2012 general election . . . what American would not be OUTRAGED to learn of it? And think it was worthy of impeachment?
.
And if a Trump supporter would have been outraged then, WHY are you not outraged about a similar situation now?
.
This whole Ukraine business might not end up being much, in the grand scheme of things: I've consistently opined that having committed PROVEN election-finance felonies, for which your co-conspirator is currently in prison, was much more salient.
.
But I'd be really interested to know how the Trumpists have managed to be okay with the President's dealings with Ukraine. Not an argument this time, I'm really curious--so no changing the topic or what-abouts, please--what is it about this situation, compared to the hypothetical one in 2011, that makes it okay?
You are asking something from iggy and rigged that psychologically they are unable to do. This is particularly difficult to do when your perception about something that is important to you is threatened.
The is a correct observation. I do enjoy those of you here who have a brain.
Smorbun wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
How many all-you-can-eat buffets has that beached whale bankrupted?
Aren't you the big baby who complained about name calling? You do it all the time. At least Nadler did something about his weight. Trump and Giuliani and Barr are all fat, as if that means anything.
I am equal opportunity with nicknames, whether it's Trumpanzee, Orange Man (bad), Tiny, etc. It's all part of the game on LR.
I give GOP politicians nicknames too: Mittens, Little Marco, Poodle hair (Rand Paul), Turkey neck Mitch, etc.
edit: Jabba the Hutt Nadler
"That", not "The"
Flagpole wrote:
Conundrum wrote:
You are asking something from iggy and rigged that psychologically they are unable to do. This is particularly difficult to do when your perception about something that is important to you is threatened.
The is a correct observation. I do enjoy those of you here who have a brain.
It is comforting to know that those deluded by their arrogance still only have one vote.
RCP last 4 days (Trump Job Approval):
45.3
44.9
44.7
44.6
Just saying.
One thing’s for sure, donny wants the death penalty for traitors & doesn’t realize that it would wipe out himself and millions more.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/2019-09-27_8-54-29.jpg?itok=NGFvb5zA
If Biden is guilty of something I hope he goes down for it. If Trump is guilty do you hope he’s punished?
That said the evidence that Biden is guilty has as of yet not been presented.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49856788Ciro,
No problem with any of that.
I actually favor Warren’s view of Wall Street and the banks by the way.
Igy
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Ciro,
No problem with any of that.
I actually favor Warren’s view of Wall Street and the banks by the way.
Igy
So if Trump is guilty you do want him to go down?
The latest Rassmussen poll has Trump leading Biden by 47% to 43 %. The Democrats are getting ready to destroy Biden so he has no chance to win the nomination. Democrats - especially the establishment ones - play hardball like no one else. Witness Hillary and Debbie destroying Bernie Sanders. Biden has ZERO chance of being the Dem nominee.
