Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Pence would become the incumbent president (if he's not taken down by this) but I don't see how Trump's delegates would automatically go to Pence.

They don't run as a pair in the primaries.

But even so, they may prefer Pence over Trump and use an impeachment conviction to do so.

Who knows where Trump's popularity will be in August 2020 leading up to the convention.

There is a great irony, a wonderful poetic justice in this turn of events with Trump. Trump develops this scheme to withhold funding from newly elected Zelensky, funding that his country needs, and then to strong arm the new guy Zelensky by reminding him how good the US has been to Ukraine (and without any past reciprocity) and no other country has been this good, but when further defensive support was brought up by Zelensky, trump then applies the pressure pitch, "I want you to do me a favor though".

This whole illegal dirty scheme was designed to take Biden down. But oh what poetic justice, this whole scheme, doesn't touch Biden but ends up being the cause of the unraveling of the Trump reign. I believe Biden was the candidate Trump most feared and that is why he was pushed to take chances. His obsession with Biden was explained in this Politico article.

"The cascade of tweets began at 4:56 a.m. on May 1, starting with the president’s criticism of the nation’s largest firefighters union’s endorsement of Joe Biden. Over the next two hours, more than 60 retweets bashing Biden and the firefighters’ decision would follow from Donald Trump's Twitter account.

The burst of activity came during a three-month period that reveals an extraordinary preoccupation with his potential general election rival, and provides a window into Trump’s thinking in the run-up to his fateful July 25 call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

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At home and abroad, on Twitter, at campaign rallies, in interviews and even from the White House lawn, Trump spent an inordinate amount of time deriding Biden and insisting that the former vice president could not be ahead of him in polls — despite the fact that Biden has led the president in general election matchups in every major poll conducted in 2019."

One thing about Ukraine giving the US little reciprocity for protection:

In 1991 when the Ukraine became independent of the Soviet Union, they had tons of nuclear weapons.

They made deal to destroy those weapons.

Part of that deal was protection by the US.

If Congress appropriates defense to the Ukraine, Trump has no business holding up.

Two unequivocal facts:

Trump asked the president of Ukraine to investigate his political rival. (He admits this)

Trump withheld funding to the Ukraine during that time period.

X-Runner wrote:

One thing about Ukraine giving the US little reciprocity for protection:

In 1991 when the Ukraine became independent of the Soviet Union, they had tons of nuclear weapons.

They made deal to destroy those weapons.

Part of that deal was protection by the US.

If Congress appropriates defense to the Ukraine, Trump has no business holding up.

Two unequivocal facts:

Trump asked the president of Ukraine to investigate his political rival. (He admits this)

Trump withheld funding to the Ukraine during that time period.

Half-way there

Half-way there wrote:

Half-way there

Get a life, Sally.

X-Runner wrote:

One thing about Ukraine giving the US little reciprocity for protection:

In 1991 when the Ukraine became independent of the Soviet Union, they had tons of nuclear weapons.

They made deal to destroy those weapons.

Part of that deal was protection by the US.

If Congress appropriates defense to the Ukraine, Trump has no business holding up.

Two unequivocal facts:

Trump asked the president of Ukraine to investigate his political rival. (He admits this)

Trump withheld funding to the Ukraine during that time period.

Extremely relevant to any arguments here: 1) there is no equivalence between US and Ukraine... it's not two major superpowers talking.. one is very dependent on the other's funding - trump used that as leverage. 2) trump didn't ask him to look into corruption in his country, he asked him specifically to look into Biden. These are facts. We need more info on the cover up attempt as well. Was trump involved; who gave the orders? Did the person who filed it in the classified bin understand what they were effectively doing? What role did Barr and Giuliani play in this? This cover up part is not critical because the crime is clear, but it would be the icing on the cake to demonstrate without doubt that trump knew exactly what he was doing and that it was wrong.

Kramer and Newman said the Ukraine.

The Ukraine guy on the subway said just Ukraine.

A US Senate investigation has determined that the NRA acted as a Russian foreign asset during the 2016 election to put Trump into the White House.

The second link is to the full Senate report.

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/27/764879242/nra-was-foreign-asset-to-russia-ahead-of-2016-new-senate-report-reveals

https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=6432520-The-NRA-Russia-How-a-Tax-Exempt-Organization

Half-way there wrote:

X-Runner wrote:

One thing about Ukraine giving the US little reciprocity for protection:

In 1991 when the Ukraine became independent of the Soviet Union, they had tons of nuclear weapons.

They made deal to destroy those weapons.

Part of that deal was protection by the US.

If Congress appropriates defense to the Ukraine, Trump has no business holding up.

Two unequivocal facts:

Trump asked the president of Ukraine to investigate his political rival. (He admits this)

Trump withheld funding to the Ukraine during that time period.

Half-way there

Halfway.

No, this story is hurting Biden. It didn't get much attention before as there was no evidence to support the accusation he was trying to help his son. That's still the case, but it's getting a ton of attention and the video of him bragging, and learning about his idiot son, are not good stories.

Flagpole wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Sure. Pray for one of your socialists candidates to pay off your student debt you. The boss is getting angry, get back to your barista job, that elderly and ignorant Trump supporter wants his latte.

1) None of the Democrat candidates are socialists, no matter how much you say it. Bernie is the closest, he won't win the nomination, and he is a "Democrat Socialist". There is a difference.

2) I, as a Democrat, am adamantly AGAINST free college and paying off student debt.

3) It is ALWAYS a loser argument when you accuse someone of having a service job when you have no idea what they do...so, you lose there in addition to your loser content.

You have the POTENTIAL to do better than most of the Trump shills here. I hope you fulfill that potential.

1) Wrong! Take off your TDS blinders. Look at Crooked Senile Joe's dream of a Wall Street tax. Compare that to Pocahontas' and Crazy Bernie's tax plans- they are all jockyeying to soak the rich in order to pay for all that "free stuff." They are veering far left.

2) We agree

3) It doesn't help your case when your prognostications always flop and then call other arguments as loser content. Look in the mirror.

Impeachment never

The Clownpole Forever

KAG2020

Dictionary wrote:

Half-way there wrote:

Half-way there

Halfway.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/halfway

Good job! Your point is well-taken. And I am happy to learn.

Thanks!

- Halfway there :-)

Are you going away if Trump is impeached or just if he is not re-elected?

Half-way there wrote:

Dictionary wrote:

Halfway.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/halfway

Good job! Your point is well-taken. And I am happy to learn.

Thanks!

- Halfway there :-)

You learned to use punctuation for your send post. Well-done.

69620

Trumpettes are NOT Americans!

Punctuation wrote:

Half-way there wrote:

Good job! Your point is well-taken. And I am happy to learn.

Thanks!

- Halfway there :-)

You learned to use punctuation for your send post. Well-done.

Thanks, dude!

We partially agree on Quid Pro Joe. He's toast.

WTF^n wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Sure, Dow 26,616 1/26/2018, and Dow 9/26/2019 26,890. Same level last 20 months; no better than a CD as I have said. You better protect your portfolio or you’ll never make your retirement in California (god knows why). I posted on the Dow thread just the other day. Sorry none of your prognostications have come to pass, brother.

To be fair, when the Dow was around 20,000, you assured us that it would drop below 13,000 long before it ever approached 23,000.

How'd that work out for you?

I never said that.