Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Fat hurts wrote:

Here is how I see this playing out.

Democrats in the house vote for impeachment just before the end of the year.

The senate does take up the matter, but moves very slowly. The whole process drags on to the summer of 2020. Then there are calls to just let the people decide at the ballot box.

So Republican senators never have to take the tough vote.

There are probably good odds on that exact thing happening.

I think we could have a vote in the House sooner than just before the end of the year. And, while I am not there yet, I think it is possible the Senate would tell Trump they have the votes to convict. He then can resign or not, and if not, the Senate would remove him...again, I'm not there yet.

Giuliani and Barr and also in BIG trouble. It is really amazing that these two guys who could have simply retired with decent legacies have decided to actively support this criminal president. I am not sure how they avoid jail...Barr's involvement is still uncertain of course.

Flagpole wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Here is how I see this playing out.

Democrats in the house vote for impeachment just before the end of the year.

The senate does take up the matter, but moves very slowly. The whole process drags on to the summer of 2020. Then there are calls to just let the people decide at the ballot box.

So Republican senators never have to take the tough vote.

And, while I am not there yet, I think it is possible the Senate would tell Trump they have the votes to convict. He then can resign or not, and if not, the Senate would remove him...again, I'm not there yet.

Never gonna happen, first rule in politics is to never admit you're wrong . If he's removed from office then it would be a devastating blow to the whole Republican party and Senators would then likely face much tougher elections back home. If he gets impeached then it's way easier to blame it on the very unfair and not nice Democrats and drum up support along party lines while painting the Democrats as obstructionists.

I also think at this point that it will be very hard for any Republican to win in 2020. But fundamentally, I feel the Republican party has abdicated their responsibility to govern and have instead fearfully caved in to all of Trump's whim's. With Republican governing, we lost balance of power and the party lost any semblance of ethics.

They don't deserve to win in 2020. Hopefully new Republicans will be voted in and the party will regain some of the ethics that they lost.

I think the more likely path for mitch is to call a vote on day one and get this thing over with. Maybe have a one day trial for form's sake and then call a quick vote on day 2 to not convict.

I don't see the benefit to Rs for dragging this out. They want it over, so they'll do it fast.

Then the R line will say 'we dont' want to waste the country's time on these bogus charges - we want to get back to work on cutting taxes, burning more stuff, taking away more health insurance and putting our farmers out of business.'

This is him this am:

To show you how dishonest the LameStream Media is, I used the word Liddle’, not Liddle, in discribing Corrupt Congressman Liddle’ Adam Schiff. Low ratings @CNN purposely took the hyphen out and said I spelled the word little wrong. A small but never ending situation with CNN!

discribing

hyphen

And some truly believe this is an intelligent individual

Racket wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

And, while I am not there yet, I think it is possible the Senate would tell Trump they have the votes to convict. He then can resign or not, and if not, the Senate would remove him...again, I'm not there yet.

Never gonna happen, first rule in politics is to never admit you're wrong . If he's removed from office then it would be a devastating blow to the whole Republican party and Senators would then likely face much tougher elections back home. If he gets impeached then it's way easier to blame it on the very unfair and not nice Democrats and drum up support along party lines while painting the Democrats as obstructionists.

I think this makes sense too. Republicans will have the best chance of reelection with impeachment only. I think if the Senate votes to convict or if Trump resigns before the Senate can convict, many Republicans will have trouble getting re-elected. In that case, many Republicans will become discouraged with politics and will just stay home and not vote.

This is going to test Rs resolve in sticking with him. They will need to convene behind his back and finally have a difficult conversation about the future. Certainly many are afraid of their political future if they vote party line in favor. I think they try to ride out the storm because in fact there is no leadership left in that party, just trump... they will all walk the plank hand in hand.

So far not one trump supporter could break out of this pattern. Not one has posted, " yes, Trump has abused his power and I am very disappointed in him." Not one.

Racket wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

No, what is laughable is the display of phony crimes that you have been sucked into the last couple of years. I know what Trump is, you have no idea what the Democratic Party has turned into. I am pretty sure Trump will be re-elected because the opposition is evidently pulling out all stops of the ridiculous. Weak.

I'd say stick to stock market prognostication but you're not very good at that either so maybe it's time to just retire

How much money have you made the past year moving money back and forth?

Told you it was unprofitable.

But you have the magic touch.

I’ll retire once you have lost it all, and in the process have grown up a bit.

It seems like it can only drag on: donny won’t hand over anything that’s already been subpoenaed; he won’t stop committing new crimes; and the GOP won’t reign him in. Recipe for a long investigation that will turn up endless criminality.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Racket wrote:

I'd say stick to stock market prognostication but you're not very good at that either so maybe it's time to just retire

How much money have you made the past year moving money back and forth?

Told you it was unprofitable.

But you have the magic touch.

I’ll retire once you have lost it all, and in the process have grown up a bit.

Igy, can you speak up? It's difficult for me to hear you when you're so far beneath me. Thanks!

Ciro wrote:

A lot of rambling and the general victim card, but at 2:10 he dangles carrots for the Dems at the expense of conservative principles and values.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=39SQne1P7Yo

Wow, what a press conference. That is the first time since Trump first announced his candidacy that I actually feel sorry for him. He comes across as so sad, hopeless, dejected . . . Almost like a puppy giving you the famous puppy sad eyes.

#sad

jesseriley wrote:

It seems like it can only drag on: donny won’t hand over anything that’s already been subpoenaed; he won’t stop committing new crimes; and the GOP won’t reign him in. Recipe for a long investigation that will turn up endless criminality.

Ds know that - so the current plan is to focus just on the Ukraine call and have a vote in 8 weeks.

but sure courts will drag it out longer than anyone can dream.

Will Rs continue to betray the nation?

Many of the signers are former Obama officials. But the list includes others who served as career officials in both Democratic and Republican administrations, including Matthew Olsen, head of the Justice Department’s national security division under President George W. Bush and director of the National Counterterrorism Center under President Barack Obama.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/nearly-300-former-officials-call-trumps-actions-concerning-ukraine-profound-national-security-concern/2019/09/27/254c09ac-e09e-11e9-8dc8-498eabc129a0_story.html

Racket wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

And, while I am not there yet, I think it is possible the Senate would tell Trump they have the votes to convict. He then can resign or not, and if not, the Senate would remove him...again, I'm not there yet.

Never gonna happen...

Not so sure. Republicans may not have a choice. Like I said, not ready to call it yet.

Racket wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

No, what is laughable is the display of phony crimes that you have been sucked into the last couple of years. I know what Trump is, you have no idea what the Democratic Party has turned into. I am pretty sure Trump will be re-elected because the opposition is evidently pulling out all stops of the ridiculous. Weak.

I'd say stick to stock market prognostication but you're not very good at that either so maybe it's time to just retire

Yeah, he's not good at stock market prognostication for sure. I had to leave that Dow thread (for the most part), because I was proven to be SO right. It DOES get boring hitting home run after home run after a while.

Racket wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

How much money have you made the past year moving money back and forth?

Told you it was unprofitable.

But you have the magic touch.

I’ll retire once you have lost it all, and in the process have grown up a bit.

Igy, can you speak up? It's difficult for me to hear you when you're so far beneath me. Thanks!

Sure. Pray for one of your socialists candidates to pay off your student debt you. The boss is getting angry, get back to your barista job, that elderly and ignorant Trump supporter wants his latte.

That rambling sounds amazingly like Baldwin mocking him! Trump is mocking himself & he is clueless about it.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Racket wrote:

Igy, can you speak up? It's difficult for me to hear you when you're so far beneath me. Thanks!

Sure. Pray for one of your socialists candidates to pay off your student debt you. The boss is getting angry, get back to your barista job, that elderly and ignorant Trump supporter wants his latte.

I'm going to have to go with:

Racket: 1

Igy: 0