Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
By the way, when Tiny threatened whistleblowers today he committed yet another crime.
Tiny is going to prison.
A very Fatpolian statement. You have been wrong for over 2 years and will continue that streak of misery.
I haven't been wrong at all. I said this will happen in the future. I never said how long it will take.
The case for conviction is stronger than ever.
Tiny is going to prison.
celery wrote:
Obvi wrote:
Ah, and here you had me believing that you were posting as something other than an ignoramus or a liar. Kudos to you!
Agip said nothing about "the President should be impeached for using foreign aid to manipulate other countries politics." So you are either monumentally stupid to post that or you are a liar.
Good job!
He said "Rather, he appears to have wielded the entire economic, military and moral authority of a great nation to, effectively, extort another democratically elected head of state."
I paraphrased that as "the President should be impeached for using foreign aid to manipulate other countries politics."
What's the difference?
What he did not bother to add, because it is so obvious, is that Trump wielded the nation's power and moral authority for personal gain, not to further national interests.
For personal gain = traitorous
For national interests = appropriate
Seriously, were you too stupid to see this? Or is this just some sort of act?
celery wrote:
Ciro wrote:
+1
So it all comes down to trusting what Biden says about his motivation for wanting the Ukrainian prosecutor fired. You take it for granted that the Prosecutor was in fact corrupt, even though I doubt any of us are really well versed on Ukrainian politics from 2016.
But if you trust Biden's word that he thought the Prosecutor was corrupt, isn't there just as much evidence to trust Trump's word that he thought the Prosecutor was not corrupt, and it was the induced firing of the Prosecutor that Trump thought was the corrupt activity. Even if you think Trump is wrong, if this is his state of mind, then what he did is no different than what Biden did.
Whether Trump or Biden is correct in their opinion of whether the Prosecutor should have been fired is something none of us can really know for sure. We can pick and choose the news outlet that confirms our opinion and pretend it is evidence, but none of us really know. We would have to be insiders in the Ukrainian government in 2016 to really know.
If you think you really know the truth, and you think this impeachment circus is something that deserves your emotional investment, you are being tricked.
No...it doesn't come down to Biden's answer for why he was for the prosecutor resigning. You are perpetuating a false idea about this. You don't know what you're talking about here. Come up with a new topic. You've been shown to be wrong on this several times now.
celery wrote:
peanut butter wrote:
You proved I was correct. Obama would have the power, NOT Biden.
So you are saying that Obama should have been impeached?
Your ignorance is astounding. Rigged, Sally, and you are now a trifecta.
Pursuing impeachment is a gigantic mistake. Won't go anywhere and really hurts the democrats. Also reeks of desperation. Their internal polls show that they can't win in 2020.
This is moving FAST.
I'm betting that by Monday Trump is out, and he takes Pence with him.
Say hello to President Nancy Pelosi.
I don't mind if Biden gets burned here, he's not the only functioning adult running.
Key here is that trump is dying to figure out who the whistle blower is... without that information he is powerless. His only chance is to get their identity and try to destroy their character on twitter and through his little ring of conspiracy fabricators. The first line of defense for him was that he never said what the media was claiming... when forced to release the script he said there is nothing wrong with what he said... and now it has come out that the WH tried to scrub the convo, completely contradicting his claims... his circle have been playing clean up for way too long and he truly believes he's done nothing wrong, he's the victim... he committed a criminal act, period.
Americans say about impeaching Trump (YouGov poll from Tuesday; it would be worse today):
Strongly Support + Somewhat Support - 55% (32% of Republicans; 51% of Independents)
Strongly Oppose + Somewhat Oppose - 26% (49% of Republicans; 30% of Independents)
Don't know - 19%
The above shows Trump is DONE. He has support of less than 50% of Republicans to not impeach.
semsurr wrote:
Pursuing impeachment is a gigantic mistake.
Only 49% of Republican voters agree with you. Oops.
Trollminator wrote:
I don't mind if Biden gets burned here, he's not the only functioning adult running.
Key here is that trump is dying to figure out who the whistle blower is... without that information he is powerless. His only chance is to get their identity and try to destroy their character on twitter and through his little ring of conspiracy fabricators. The first line of defense for him was that he never said what the media was claiming... when forced to release the script he said there is nothing wrong with what he said... and now it has come out that the WH tried to scrub the convo, completely contradicting his claims... his circle have been playing clean up for way too long and he truly believes he's done nothing wrong, he's the victim... he committed a criminal act, period.
Yep. Criminals gonna criminal.
Just about everything I have predicted has already come true or is going to come true. I will spell it all out when it is all over, complete with what I got wrong and what I got right.
Trump WILL be impeached.
Trump will NOT win in 2020.
Trump WILL go to prison.
Mueller is STILL coming.
The clown is done.
Polls wrote:
Americans say about impeaching Trump (YouGov poll from Tuesday; it would be worse today):
Strongly Support + Somewhat Support - 55% (32% of Republicans; 51% of Independents)
Strongly Oppose + Somewhat Oppose - 26% (49% of Republicans; 30% of Independents)
Don't know - 19%
The above shows Trump is DONE. He has support of less than 50% of Republicans to not impeach.
Link provided:
https://today.yougov.com/opi/surveys/results#/survey/72f3bf66-dee3-11e9-b4a9-9f0e9e31e4a3/question/9b91b2b7-dee3-11e9-ba0e-c7fcd6994022/politicsFlagpole wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
I don't mind if Biden gets burned here, he's not the only functioning adult running.
Key here is that trump is dying to figure out who the whistle blower is... without that information he is powerless. His only chance is to get their identity and try to destroy their character on twitter and through his little ring of conspiracy fabricators. The first line of defense for him was that he never said what the media was claiming... when forced to release the script he said there is nothing wrong with what he said... and now it has come out that the WH tried to scrub the convo, completely contradicting his claims... his circle have been playing clean up for way too long and he truly believes he's done nothing wrong, he's the victim... he committed a criminal act, period.
Yep. Criminals gonna criminal.
Just about everything I have predicted has already come true or is going to come true. I will spell it all out when it is all over, complete with what I got wrong and what I got right.
Trump WILL be impeached.
Trump will NOT win in 2020.
Trump WILL go to prison.
Mueller is STILL coming.
The clown is done.
Do you plan apologizing unreservedly anytime soon for being wrong about "the" Ukraine?
Trump loyalists - you know who are.
Take 45 seconds out of your day to listen to Trump offer quick deals on asylum and gun control if the Democrats will just let him off the hook for his crimes.
Are you people even conservatives anymore???
Polls wrote:
Americans say about impeaching Trump (YouGov poll from Tuesday; it would be worse today):
Strongly Support + Somewhat Support - 55% (32% of Republicans; 51% of Independents)
Strongly Oppose + Somewhat Oppose - 26% (49% of Republicans; 30% of Independents)
Don't know - 19%
The above shows Trump is DONE. He has support of less than 50% of Republicans to not impeach.
lol you still believe in polls
Flagpole wrote:
celery wrote:
So it all comes down to trusting what Biden says about his motivation for wanting the Ukrainian prosecutor fired. You take it for granted that the Prosecutor was in fact corrupt, even though I doubt any of us are really well versed on Ukrainian politics from 2016.
But if you trust Biden's word that he thought the Prosecutor was corrupt, isn't there just as much evidence to trust Trump's word that he thought the Prosecutor was not corrupt, and it was the induced firing of the Prosecutor that Trump thought was the corrupt activity. Even if you think Trump is wrong, if this is his state of mind, then what he did is no different than what Biden did.
Whether Trump or Biden is correct in their opinion of whether the Prosecutor should have been fired is something none of us can really know for sure. We can pick and choose the news outlet that confirms our opinion and pretend it is evidence, but none of us really know. We would have to be insiders in the Ukrainian government in 2016 to really know.
If you think you really know the truth, and you think this impeachment circus is something that deserves your emotional investment, you are being tricked.
No...it doesn't come down to Biden's answer for why he was for the prosecutor resigning. You are perpetuating a false idea about this. You don't know what you're talking about here. Come up with a new topic. You've been shown to be wrong on this several times now.
So says the person who has been entirely wrong on pretty much EVER ONE of his guarantees. You had me in stitches, Flagpole. Very funny!
semsurr wrote:
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Keep crying, jamin.
peanut butter wrote:
celery wrote:
So you are saying that Obama should have been impeached?
Your ignorance is astounding. Rigged, Sally, and you are now a trifecta.
Your TDS is terminal. You are beyond help.
Ciro wrote:
Trump loyalists - you know who are.
Take 45 seconds out of your day to listen to Trump offer quick deals on asylum and gun control if the Democrats will just let him off the hook for his crimes.
Are you people even conservatives anymore???
https://mobile.twitter.com/politicususa/status/1177007722946027520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1177021701101694976&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.yahoo.com%2Fhuffpost%2Ftrump-pence-president-pelosi-081441004.html
So much for the tough man persona, a chicken sh!t of the very highest order.
Fat hurts wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
A very Fatpolian statement. You have been wrong for over 2 years and will continue that streak of misery.
I haven't been wrong at all. I said this will happen in the future. I never said how long it will take.
The case for conviction is stronger than ever.
Tiny is going to prison.
Fat Hurts - come on man. You can do better than having juvenile nicknames for people you don't like. You have a STEM degree!
Ciro wrote:
Racket wrote:
This would totally be true...
...if you ignore the fact that Biden's motivation was in step with the Obama administration, the EU, the IMF, and pretty much all of NATO that wanted to get rid of Russian influence in Ukraine.
Celery is getting absolutely schooled here, it’s fun to sit back and watch the tantrums.
What if I don't trust the Obama administration, the EU, the IMF and pretty much all of NATO? Why in the world would I trust them? Because the NYT told me to? I have no firsthand knowledge of any of this business related to Ukraine, and neither does anyone on this message board. Am I supposed to think all these government entities or corporate journalists are just too honest to lie?
Am I living in the twilight zone? The Boston Marathon weather was terrible!
Is there a rule against attaching a helium balloon to yourself while running a road race?
How rare is it to run a sub 5 minute mile AND bench press 225?
Move over Mark Coogan, Rojo and John Kellogg share their 3 favorite mile workouts
Matt Choi was drinking beer halfway through the Boston Marathon
Mark Coogan says that if you could only do 3 workouts as a 1500m runner you should do these