Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Dream on, you’ll never find an alibi for trump & this incident, it doesn’t exist.

Image, Trump just make the Ukraine situation worse than it already was.

He was caught on audio saying:

"I want to know who's the person . . . who's the person who gave the whistle-blower the information? Because that's close to a spy. You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart? Right? The spies and treason, we used to handle it a little differently than we do now."

[The penalty for treason is death.]

peanut butter wrote:

celery wrote:

To those who think the Ukraine phone call is an impeachable offense; does Biden's brag that he with held a billion dollars of US money as a stipulation to get a Ukrainian Prosecutor fired bother you at all? If not, what is the difference in your mind?

FYI: A Vice President has ZERO authority and control of U.S. funding. A VP can only have control if they become president.

If you've watched the video of Biden bragging about withholding the funds, he addresses your point. He says that Ukraine pushed back and said "you can't do that." To which Biden replied "you wanna call Obama?"

So in Biden's own words he was bragging about how he applied enough pressure to get what he wanted that day.

celery wrote:

peanut butter wrote:

FYI: A Vice President has ZERO authority and control of U.S. funding. A VP can only have control if they become president.

If you've watched the video of Biden bragging about withholding the funds, he addresses your point. He says that Ukraine pushed back and said "you can't do that." To which Biden replied "you wanna call Obama?"

So in Biden's own words he was bragging about how he applied enough pressure to get what he wanted that day.

You proved I was correct. Obama would have the power, NOT Biden.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Pencil neck Schiff is making up his own conclusions....what a dope. He had the “whistleblower’s” complaint for 1.5 months but claimed it was withheld by the White House.

Pencil neck is a serial liar.

Ah, so the name-calling idiot racist wanker thinks his comments are worth any value. Would be cute if you weren't such an idiot racist wanker. Bugger off.

jesseriley wrote:

Dream on, you’ll never find an alibi for trump & this incident, it doesn’t exist.

I'm not trying to find an alibi, I'm trying to understand how what Biden did is any different.

celery wrote:

jesseriley wrote:

Dream on, you’ll never find an alibi for trump & this incident, it doesn’t exist.

I'm not trying to find an alibi, I'm trying to understand how what Biden did is any different.

This is very hard for someone as dense as you to understand. Biden was never president with executive privileges.

Man whose ancestors probably actually came here on a boat loses his job.

Bigots lose again.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/sheriff-office-employee-fired-racist-rant-162509850.html

celery wrote:

Obvi wrote:

Trump: Withheld aid for personal gain. "You scratch Trump's back, America scratches your back."

Biden: Withheld aid for national interests. "You scratch America's back, America scratches your back."

If the Ukraine Prosecutor's investigation was a possible threat to Biden's son, wouldn't that be personal gain for Biden?

Fair question. I am not sure if the following will be new information for you.

1) Biden was carrying out the orders of Obama. Biden on his own had no authority.

2) Obama (and many others in the international community) wanted the removal of the Ukrainian Prosecutor because he was not prosecuting corrupt corporate officers, including the head of the company that Biden's son worked for, vigorously enough. Read that again to let it sink in.

Here is the link that you should probably be reading:

celery wrote:

Obvi wrote:

Trump: Withheld aid for personal gain. "You scratch Trump's back, America scratches your back."

Biden: Withheld aid for national interests. "You scratch America's back, America scratches your back."

If the Ukraine Prosecutor's investigation was a possible threat to Biden's son, wouldn't that be personal gain for Biden?

Ok...I don't know how many times people have to spell this out, but the Biden thing does NOT equate to what Trump did AT ALL.

1) Biden was operating as the VP with Obama's knowledge out in the open and furthering US Policy.

2) Trump was NOT operating as a mouthpiece for US Policy. He was involving a foreign power to try to get dirt on his political rival. He says it was to get Ukraine to focus on corruption, but his ONLY topic was the Bidens...and it has been several years since Hunter Biden was on that board and before the current Ukrainian President was in power.

3) Biden's son's firm was NOT being prosecuted.

4) The prosecutor in question was called to resign by the entire western world. Biden was the messenger

5) The prosecutor in question was asked to resign because he was NOT doing enough to root out corruption, so a new prosecutor would likely be MORE dangerous to the company on whose board Hunter Binden sat.

6) There is NO evidence that Joe Biden or Hunter Biden did anything illegal.

7) Not only is there NO evidence that either Biden did anything wrong, their situation has been investigated, and nothing was found. I have admitted that the investigation by Mueller did NOT prove conspiracy with Russia and I accept that finding (I've said so several times now), so you Trumpers need to show some integrity and say the same thing about the Bidens who have been investigated and cleared.

Now, you idiot Trumpers, quit bringing up this stupid stupid crap that is just not anywhere near the same as what Trump has done here -- and Trump has ADMITTED doing it, so you can't argue he didn't.

My God, some of you are SOOOOO ignorant. It is really unbelievable.

agip wrote:

nah

there are two relevant questions: 1) Should the House impeach. Then after that we can talk about 2) should the senate remove trump from office.

Two relevant questions. This argues that the House should impeach.

Just Another LRC Idiot wrote:

The only relevant question here is "will this convince at least 20 Republican Senators?" I think the answer is no.(Nothing will.) He could be impeached, but will not be removed.

You are right Agip, the President should be impeached for using foreign aid to manipulate other countries politics. As should every President and Senator and Congressmen who has ever facilitated foreign aid in any way. They are all traitors. We are drowning in foreign entanglements. The Republic has been dead for at least 150 years, maybe longer. So spare us your selective outrage.

Break it 2U wrote:

Breaking Back wrote:

Ummm . . . Sorry, but he is indeed qualified to pass judgement on this. It's called being human.

Now, if you want to claim that his is not the definitive word or that his judgement carries no legal weight then that is a different matter. But he is certainly qualified to pass judgement. As are you.

Ahem, no, little child. He stated a position that claims he is speaking for everyone. Of course, you are not intelligent enough to see through your Trump blinders to understand.

Sorry, son. But you are lying, ignorant or stupid. Possibly all three.

Please point out the exact sentence or phrase wherein he "claims (to be) speaking for everyone."

Can't do it? That makes you a liar, an ignoramus or a moron. Possibly all three.

and it gets worse wrote:

Image, Trump just make the Ukraine situation worse than it already was.

He was caught on audio saying:

"I want to know who's the person . . . who's the person who gave the whistle-blower the information? Because that's close to a spy. You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart? Right? The spies and treason, we used to handle it a little differently than we do now."

[The penalty for treason is death.]

yeah - the president threatening murder to opponents.

and most Rs believe in pizzagate, seth rich, killary, that vince foster was murdered, etc.

Your guy is literally saying we should kill American citizens who file whistleblower complaints against him.

How about a little pushback, Rigged and sally?

If he were to come up to be confirmed, I'm not sure many Democrats would do so based on his behavior here. This whole "Acting Director" thing that Trump has going on is ridiculous and should not be allowed.

celery wrote:

agip wrote:

nah

there are two relevant questions: 1) Should the House impeach. Then after that we can talk about 2) should the senate remove trump from office.

Two relevant questions. This argues that the House should impeach.

You are right Agip, the President should be impeached for using foreign aid to manipulate other countries politics. As should every President and Senator and Congressmen who has ever facilitated foreign aid in any way. They are all traitors. We are drowning in foreign entanglements. The Republic has been dead for at least 150 years, maybe longer. So spare us your selective outrage.

Ah, and here you had me believing that you were posting as something other than an ignoramus or a liar. Kudos to you!

Agip said nothing about "the President should be impeached for using foreign aid to manipulate other countries politics." So you are either monumentally stupid to post that or you are a liar.

Good job!

Obvi wrote:

celery wrote:

If the Ukraine Prosecutor's investigation was a possible threat to Biden's son, wouldn't that be personal gain for Biden?

Fair question. I am not sure if the following will be new information for you.

1) Biden was carrying out the orders of Obama. Biden on his own had no authority.

2) Obama (and many others in the international community) wanted the removal of the Ukrainian Prosecutor because he was not prosecuting corrupt corporate officers, including the head of the company that Biden's son worked for, vigorously enough. Read that again to let it sink in.

Here is the link that you should probably be reading:

https://thebulwark.com/truth-lies-and-the-nonsense-trump-biden-ukraine-false-equivalency/?fbclid=IwAR2eytAzSaDvcpm9kB3Bz4fde7T_XbB6bQswYCRcCn43mb1z5XKxelD3oGU

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Calyope wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Pencil neck Schiff is making up his own conclusions....what a dope. He had the “whistleblower’s” complaint for 1.5 months but claimed it was withheld by the White House.

Pencil neck is a serial liar.

Ah, so the name-calling idiot racist wanker thinks his comments are worth any value. Would be cute if you weren't such an idiot racist wanker. Bugger off.

Take your foul mouth back to the Aussie trailer park, mate.

celery wrote:

agip wrote:

nah

there are two relevant questions: 1) Should the House impeach. Then after that we can talk about 2) should the senate remove trump from office.

Two relevant questions. This argues that the House should impeach.

You are right Agip, the President should be impeached for using foreign aid to manipulate other countries politics. As should every President and Senator and Congressmen who has ever facilitated foreign aid in any way. They are all traitors. We are drowning in foreign entanglements. The Republic has been dead for at least 150 years, maybe longer. So spare us your selective outrage.

That's a BS position. There is no evidence that other Presidents have done what Trump did here...Nixon did it domestically, but even he didn't have the bad sense to involve foreign powers. There is NO equivalency. You can be upset with how government works, but for the most part, there isn't anywhere near this kind of corruption. Outrage about Trump and his behavior is warranted.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Calyope wrote:

Ah, so the name-calling idiot racist wanker thinks his comments are worth any value. Would be cute if you weren't such an idiot racist wanker. Bugger off.

Take your foul mouth back to the Aussie trailer park, mate.

I don't think my doc wife would be up for that, mate. Idiot racist wanker.