Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

I still stand by that. Remember, I did explain that I didn't mean he would be literally dragged out or even put in handcuffs. But I do think a show of force will be necessary to get him to leave.

If he loses the election he will try everything he can think of to stay in power beyond January 20, 2021.

Your TDS is showing. If Trump loses, he will leave exactly the same way as his predecessors did.

KAG2020

he will leave but first he will do everything he can to convince his target marketing demographic that there was massive fraud and millions of illegal votes were cast and that the networks colluded to beat him. He will blame everyone but his own awfulness. And he will try to burn everything down as he walks out.

The chair of the federal election commission is trying to get out in front of this by challenging the GOP to show why it believes tens of thousands were bussed in to NH in 2016. of course the spankists have no evidence and are just lying as always.

You're right. Doesn't do anything for me.

It does explain why you have such a child=like view of Christianity. You never grew out of the Sunday school view. You'd benefit from attending a church with an adult perspective of Christianity.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

I still stand by that. Remember, I did explain that I didn't mean he would be literally dragged out or even put in handcuffs. But I do think a show of force will be necessary to get him to leave.

If he loses the election he will try everything he can think of to stay in power beyond January 20, 2021.

Your TDS is showing. If Trump loses, he will leave exactly the same way as his predecessors did.

KAG2020

He doesn't do anything the way his predecessors did.

Whatever, brother. You obviously have a Fundamentalist Christian view that can't be swayed...and I don't want to do that anyway. I haven't yet met a person who is not a clergy member who has a deeper and broader understanding of The Bible and Christianity than I do (and MOST clergy members, depending on denomination, don't rival me either), so again, whatever, brother.

Proofer,

Oh...and most of the Sunday school classes we taught were for adults.

1) As I pointed out before, people 100 years ago did not believe in gay marriage. Under your definition, everyone 100 years ago is evil. Then you said you are a cultural relativist. You said they are not evil because of the culture of that time. However, if culture is the basis for morality then you have to acknowledge that Fundamentalist Christians must also be forgiven for opposition to gay marriage. They are their own culture. Calling them a sub-culture doesn't help you if you are a real cultural relativist.

2) Fundamentalist Evangelicals are their own culture. They have their own meeting places, their own books, their own music, their own movies, their own grade schools, and even their own colleges. It is every bit as much a culture as any other.

3) Cultural relativism is nonsense like any other ethical relativism. You will not find a single ethicist who embraces it. It just doesn't work as an ethical system, which is why you destroyed your own argument with it.

4) I know the Bible well enough to see through your silly arguments about murdering people who break the sabbath. Jesus did not interpret the Old Testament that way and neither does anyone I have ever heard of. You see, Christians tend to trust the interpretation of Jesus rather than the interpretation of Flagpole. That's why I was making fun of what you said.

I've been teaching Bible study classes for over 25 years. I've pretty much heard it all.

5) I am sorry about how you were treated in that fundamentalist church. I had a similar experience with a church that changed over time and became more and more hard-line conservative. My family eventually left and found a congregation where we could better serve.

You say that you still embrace some of the teachings of Jesus. Surely you support what he said about forgiveness. Do try to forgive the people in your old church. Stop calling them evil. They know not what they do.

Flagpole, are you a born again Christian?

Bible believer wrote:

Flagpole, are you a born again Christian?

No - he is a welcher, a swindler, a liar, a cheater and one who calls many women whores when they are looking out for their families. He is basically a pig. That is Flagpole in a nutshell.

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Flagpole wrote:

Proofer wrote:

You're right. Doesn't do anything for me.

It does explain why you have such a child=like view of Christianity. You never grew out of the Sunday school view. You'd benefit from attending a church with an adult perspective of Christianity.

Whatever, brother. You obviously have a Fundamentalist Christian view that can't be swayed...and I don't want to do that anyway. I haven't yet met a person who is not a clergy member who has a deeper and broader understanding of The Bible and Christianity than I do (and MOST clergy members, depending on denomination, don't rival me either), so again, whatever, brother.

Ha Ha Ha! If you say so. Your words, however, say otherwise.

"Whatever, brother" is a solid argument too. Can I add debate club captain to your vitae?

Agip, come on. Trump is maybe worth $2 billion - maybe slightly more or slightly less. You really think he is worried about $100K that he could be making from the debates?

Flagpole wrote:

Proofer wrote:

You're right. Doesn't do anything for me.

It does explain why you have such a child=like view of Christianity. You never grew out of the Sunday school view. You'd benefit from attending a church with an adult perspective of Christianity.

Whatever, brother. You obviously have a Fundamentalist Christian view that can't be swayed...and I don't want to do that anyway. I haven't yet met a person who is not a clergy member who has a deeper and broader understanding of The Bible and Christianity than I do (and MOST clergy members, depending on denomination, don't rival me either), so again, whatever, brother.

Not sure if Fat Hurts is "clergy," but his is wiping the floor with you in this discussion.

1) I have answered this already. You keep trying to have me label a group of Evangelicals. I refuse. As a side note only, Evangelicals are a sub-culture at best. They are a group, not a culture.

2) Answered.

3) I disagree with you about cultural relativism. It was at one time accepted and NOT evil that women did not get to vote in this country. If someone were today to say that women should not be able to vote, that would indeed be evil. I can look back at pre-1920 and say that was not right keeping women from voting, but that was a different time, and I can not say they were evil...in accordance with the times. Acceptance of homosexuality is changing for the good, and one day, it won't even be a deal at all to be accepting of it. Mortal men from 2000+ years ago who wrote stuff in a book that actually persisted until today (meaning not all of what they wrote persisted) do not get to define morality forever. RIDICULOUS to think so...and wrong.

4) You are not getting my point there at all. Your interpretation of Jesus comes from your own mind and like people (pastors) who interpreted his meaning in a way that you accept. I could sit you in a church where the interpretation of what Jesus said and did you would not accept.

5) I was never in a fundamentalist church.

6) Forgiveness is fine, but you don't forgive what is continuing AND it is forgiveness that the evil people are not allowing. Jesus died for their sins, but apparently not those of the ones they demonize. Let me say this again for maybe the 4th time now...anyone who does not believe there should be equal rights for gay people is evil. You assign a lot of things to that comment that are not said, not intended, and not implied. I never said anything about the people in my old church being evil. They are evil IF they continue to be against equal rights for gay people. They are NOT evil if they don't feel that way. That is true for people in my old church, people I've never met, etc.

Like I said before, I am more than fine with deciding to disagree here. I don't wish to try to change your mind, so there's no point really in continuing, so I don't plan to respond to any more comments from you on this topic for now...if it comes up again in the future, I might depending on my mood, but for now, I've lost interest.

Goonie wrote:

Not sure if Fat Hurts is "clergy," but his is wiping the floor with you in this discussion.

Actually he isn't, and he got a few facts wrong and/or didn't know some things that such a self-professed Bible/Christianity expert should know.

Flagpole wrote:

Goonie wrote:

Not sure if Fat Hurts is "clergy," but his is wiping the floor with you in this discussion.

Actually he isn't, and he got a few facts wrong and/or didn't know some things that such a self-professed Bible/Christianity expert should know.

And you have been pretty much wrong about everything you have guaranteed over the last few years.

Flagpole wrote:

Goonie wrote:

Not sure if Fat Hurts is "clergy," but his is wiping the floor with you in this discussion.

Actually he isn't, and he got a few facts wrong and/or didn't know some things that such a self-professed Bible/Christianity expert should know.

Like what?

Sally Vix wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Actually he isn't, and he got a few facts wrong and/or didn't know some things that such a self-professed Bible/Christianity expert should know.

And you have been pretty much wrong about everything you have guaranteed over the last few years.

INCORRECT!

Flagpole wrote:

I don't wish to try to change your mind, so there's no point really in continuing, so I don't plan to respond to any more comments from you on this topic for now...if it comes up again in the future, I might depending on my mood, but for now, I've lost.

I concur.