Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Good post. Many of the leading democratic candidates (except Joe) are going down a losing path by attacking Obama's record and they are out of touch with the average American. Biden will win but how bloodied will he be and how many leftists will stay home and not vote. Biden needs some moderates to survive for the next debate. If he has to endure another piling on with the addition of the knowledge and passion Warren and Sanders without moderate support, he's in trouble.

The democrats and Hillary absolutely blew the last election. They need to smarten up. Decriminalize illegal entrance in this country, social democrat, taking away employer provided insurance, free college, free insurance to illegal entrants, slavery reparations, erasing student debt, none of this will sell to the general electorate.

What happened to Obama Democrats. These ideas are nothing that he supported. These new candidates are attacking Obama Care and Obama's immigration policy. Are they insane? Biden certainly is old and his age showed, but he knows that these ideas will likely lose in a general election. Biden is the safest bet to end the tyranny of Trump.

But democrats and their being swept away by emotionality can still blow this.

Sally Vix wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

I find it interesting the Trumpers never argue the facts of Tiny's guilt. They never bring up what he did and try to say that he didn't do it. They never argue that he didn't actually commit a crime.

Everybody knows he's guilty and nobody who looks at the facts says otherwise.

Fat Hurts - Quit. You are sounding like an idiot now. Robert Mueller - the author of the report himself - found no culpability by Trump. So STOP IT. You are sounding like the biggest idiot now. GEt over it. Mueller came and investigated and found nothing. You are beginning to sound like Flagpole and even YOU know how bad that would be to be linked to that fool.

Yet another Trumper who refuses to talk about what the president actually did.

Mueller laid out the facts for a future prosecutor, but you refuse to even talk about them.

Are you OK with what the president did? Do you even know what he did?

Sally Vix wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Yes. He found 10 incidents where Tiny can be indicted for of obstruction of justice after he leaves office.

But you won't talk about those. You will just pretend they didn't happen and try to change the subject.

Enough idiot. Mueller said he never reached a determination of guilt on ANYTHING. You are becoming a nut job now.

Mueller laid out everything the president did to obstruct justice. And you refuse to face it.

None of the Trumpers will talk about it. They won't discuss what he actually did.

It's amazing how upset they get every time I mention it.

LOL! Well, Mueller caved to the pressure from the desperate Dems (who obviously do not care who's reputation they destroy).....

.....AND WOW!! What an absolute DISASTER it was!! When did Mueller turn 97 years old? LOL! How could he not remember ANYTHING that "he" put in "his" report? He was getting tripped up verifying DIRECT QUOTES from his report! Did he really not interview Glenn Simpson, Steele, or the Ohrs? He really doesn't know about Fusion GPS? How is that possible? The one time the MSM thought they had a "gotcha", Mueller went back and corrected it to say "No, the OLC opinion is NOT why we decided not to indict [for obstruction]." It was EPIC. Oh, and he was asked directly if his investigation was impeded in any way, and he said "no".

Several of the questions I mentioned in last month's EPIC report (see above) were asked, and let's just saaaaayyyy, Mueller bombed the responses. It's now perfectly clear that he knew there was no collusion from day one, and it was a fake investigation to go after members of the Trump team. Yet Trump still remains Clownpole's president. LOL

Meanwhile, the Republicans basically laid out the entire set of hard evidence of the conspiracy by the DOJ/FBI against the Trump campaign and subsequent presidency, and Mueller acted like he didn't know any of it.....or that half the country already knows the whole story. The Dems owe him BIG, even though he delivered a big fat ZERO (collusion, obstruction, indictments, etc.), because what a terrible way to cap off a supposedly honorable career. Another unbelievably disgusting display of congressional hearing theatrics from the Dems.

So, keeping this one short. But yet another month has been added to Clownpole's Epic Flagpole Streak.

Remember Avenatti? LOLOL!!

Mueller did NOT come. I mean, he showed up, but ugh.

Barr IS coming though.

The Clown was once again PROVEN to be Flagpole.

Current status of Flagpole’s Flagpole streak: 42+ months

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Still, you won't talk about the crimes. You can't discuss the facts. The closest you get is talking about how Mueller chose not to make a determination.

Do you know what Mueller says the president did to obstruct justice?

Do you know the specific actions the president took?

If so, do you think what he did is OK?

You won't answer those questions because you are afraid to face them.

You are an embarrassment. Fatpole you need to stop bellyaching about 2016 and start focusing on electing a democrat POTUS. You have sunk to Clownpole status.

No collusion

No obstruction

Mueller time is OVER and DONE- get this through that FAThead of yours

Trump won fair and square

You lost

Get over it

KAG2020

I'm not talking about 2016.

I'm talking about 2017 and 2018.

You refuse to even discuss what the president did to obstruct justice.

Just keep reciting the mantra your master gave you.

"No collusion, no obstruction". Ah, don't you feel so much better?

You don't have to face what he actually did.

Fat hurts wrote:

Yes. He found 10 incidents where Tiny can be indicted for of obstruction of justice after he leaves office.

Oh did he? Please name them or link to them

semsurr wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Yes. He found 10 incidents where Tiny can be indicted for of obstruction of justice after he leaves office.

Oh did he? Please name them or link to them

Dude that one's been done to death. Mucho lists were already posted.

Try to keep up.

rilly? wrote:

Dude that one's been done to death. Mucho lists were already posted.

Try to keep up.

I've seen the lists, but they're all horsesh*t, just like the Steele Dossier that many of the fools on this thread still believe. Show me something substantive

semsurr wrote: Oh did he? Please name them or link to them.

rilly? wrote: Dude that one's been done to death. Mucho lists were already posted.

Try to keep up.

I've seen the lists.[/quote]

So, you already saw the list and asked for it anyway, You are retarded.

Fat hurts wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

You are an embarrassment. Fatpole you need to stop bellyaching about 2016 and start focusing on electing a democrat POTUS. You have sunk to Clownpole status.

No collusion

No obstruction

Mueller time is OVER and DONE- get this through that FAThead of yours

Trump won fair and square

You lost

Get over it

KAG2020

I'm not talking about 2016.

I'm talking about 2017 and 2018.

You refuse to even discuss what the president did to obstruct justice.

Just keep reciting the mantra your master gave you.

"No collusion, no obstruction". Ah, don't you feel so much better?

You don't have to face what he actually did.

This is correct. Trump remains in big trouble.

He will not win in 2020.

He WILL go to prison (unless he dies first or there is criminal or space alien behavior that prevents it)

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Sally Vix wrote:

Conservatives (and Repubs) would rather depend on facts. Not on "experts." Not on ideology. But on facts. And on evidence. MUeller and team of all liberals spent almost 3 years investigating Trump. After the 3 years, the main investigator - MUeller - said no determination was reached on Trump's culpability - but THOSE EXPERTS ON THE OUTSIDE NOT PRIVY TO ALL THE EVIDENCE - signed off on some crap document declaring that Trump should be prosecuted. That is not how the American legal system works. I am so exhausted with the Trump derangement syndrome by you nutjobs.

Non-Trumpettes would rather depend on facts. Not on "experts." Not on ideology. But on facts. And on evidence. The IPCC and an extended team of climate scientists have spent more than 30 years investigating human caused climate change. After more than 30 years, the IPCC says that they have made a very clear determination with respect to human activity's culpability - but THOSE "EXPERTS" ON THE OUTSIDE NOT PRIVY TO ALL THE EVIDENCE - continue to push out crap documents declaring that human caused climate change is all a hoax. That is not how rational, unbiased people work. I am so exhausted with the "It's a conspiracy" syndrome by you nutjobs.

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Well said, Sally!

Trump will lose and lose big.

Flagpole you have too much faith in the justice system. Did Clinton ever go to jail? You think Reagan didn't know about Iran-Contra. A former president, no matter the crime, isn't going to jail, isn't being indicted.

Mueller laid it all out for Congress. He stomped his foot. Congress will not impeach him. They will simply do what they've been doing all along, investigate and keep his wrongdoings in the news. That is the best way to go as an impeachment process has a start and end date.

Alan

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

I find it interesting the Trumpers never argue the facts of Tiny's guilt. They never bring up what he did and try to say that he didn't do it. They never argue that he didn't actually commit a crime.

Everybody knows he's guilty and nobody who looks at the facts says otherwise.

Nope. Every moderate voter sees these stupidly insane liberals for what they really are: a bunch of whiny crybabies who cannot accept that fact Mueller found no crimes to indict Trump. Having more investigations, more inquiries & more hearings only makes a Trump reelection easier. Thanks libs!

You have no shot to defeat Trump.

It's kind of funny that the Fat dude made a very specific claim: "I find it interesting the Trumpers never argue the facts of Tiny's guilt. They never bring up what he did and try to say that he didn't do it. They never argue that he didn't actually commit a crime." And then you respond to refute his claim without ever once arguing the facts of Tiny's guilt, never once trying to say that he didn't do what he was accused of, never once arguing that he didn't actually commit a crime.

Good job!

Runningart2004 wrote:

Trump will lose and lose big.

Flagpole you have too much faith in the justice system. Did Clinton ever go to jail? You think Reagan didn't know about Iran-Contra. A former president, no matter the crime, isn't going to jail, isn't being indicted.

Mueller laid it all out for Congress. He stomped his foot. Congress will not impeach him. They will simply do what they've been doing all along, investigate and keep his wrongdoings in the news. That is the best way to go as an impeachment process has a start and end date.

Alan

Many democrats don't want Trump impeached. I am one of them. Does Trump deserved to be impeached, of course he does. He will never be convicted and the impeachment trial will distract from the election.

Defeat Trump in the election, then start legal proceedings against him after he is out of office.

Don't impeach.

This is my larger point.

Trumpers will happily argue all day about the things Tiny says.

But they can never defend the things he actually does. They can't even let themselves think about it.

semsurr wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Yes. He found 10 incidents where Tiny can be indicted for of obstruction of justice after he leaves office.

Oh did he? Please name them or link to them

Always happy to provide links to source documents:

Flagpole wrote:

This is correct. Trump remains in big trouble.

He will not win in 2020.

He WILL go to prison (unless he dies first or there is criminal or space alien behavior that prevents it)

Runningart2004 wrote:

Flagpole you have too much faith in the justice system. Did Clinton ever go to jail? You think Reagan didn't know about Iran-Contra. A former president, no matter the crime, isn't going to jail, isn't being indicted.

Gerald Ford was right, it would be immensely divisive to prosecute a former president for actions in any way related to politics.

Expose him, pardon him, then move on and so the country can heal.

That's not a failure of the justice system so much as a necessity for a functional democracy.

Runningart2004 wrote:

Trump will lose and lose big.

Flagpole you have too much faith in the justice system. Did Clinton ever go to jail? You think Reagan didn't know about Iran-Contra. A former president, no matter the crime, isn't going to jail, isn't being indicted.

Mueller laid it all out for Congress. He stomped his foot. Congress will not impeach him. They will simply do what they've been doing all along, investigate and keep his wrongdoings in the news. That is the best way to go as an impeachment process has a start and end date.

Alan

Alan,

1) You are right. I do have too much faith in the justice system. This is something I have admitted to before. I will gladly be proven wrong based on my belief that the best country in the world will hand out justice as deserved. I refuse to believe we live in a lawless society.

2) Clinton's transgressions weren't as bad as Trump's.

3) Reagan truly was the "Teflon" President. They never pinned the knowledge on him, and his "plausible deniability" allowed him to stay out of hot water. Trump is being investigated big time with no stone unturned, and his criminality is large.

4) The House will have to impeach Trump.

You can do both...impeach him AND go after him legally once he is out of office.

Here's why you impeach even if it is thought today that the Senate will not convict (and even if they ultimately do not convict).

1) Trump did things that warrant it. The impeachment process is just that...a process. The House has a duty to hold a President accountable to the level of its power and influence, regardless of what the Senate might do.

2) There has to be a message not only to this President (especially in case space aliens allow him to be re-elected) but to future Presidents that our political system will not allow criminal behavior from our President.

3) An impeachment is a "scandal". Now, I personally don't care about this point as I am just about law and order, BUT Democrats who just want to tip the 2020 election in their favor should want Trump to be impeached. It is one of the 13 keys that will go in the Democrat column with regard to the 2020 election. The comparison to Clinton after his impeachment is crap. Clinton was liked. Trump is not. Clinton's impeachment was widely considered to be about a BJ in the oval office. Trump has committed serious crimes. For the record, as I have said many times, I felt Clinton should have been convicted and removed from office for the perjury and the obstruction of justice.

4) It is simply the right thing to do. Some things are just right. No person SHOULD be above the law. The President already is because of all the protections he has against prosecution (a Justice Department opinion that needs to change). We have this one vehicle in place to hold a sitting President accountable for inexcusable actions, and it should be used.

5) We can take in election info and impeachment info at the same time. Just because an election is coming up should not excuse Trump from being held accountable. Being impeached, even if the Senate convicts, is a forever stain on him and the Republican Party.

6) When the House impeaches, not only does that give voters and Senators more info on which to base their opinions, but any Senator who then votes to acquit will have to live in the annals of history with that vote. Some who vote to acquit will lose their seat as a result. Once Trump is out of office, we will see that he is legally held accountable for his crimes. "So and so voted to acquit". Let that be their cross to bear.

Main points are #1 and #2 above.