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4 years ago 07/31/2019 1:52pm EDT

re: Flagpole

Flagpole wrote:
Flaggy's Hole keeps getting deeper wrote:
Nope. You said if he's found innocent then he's innocent and you would consider him as such. Same as Hillary Clinton.
You were wrong about Trump cheating, but right about Hillary cheating.
He will not be impeached.
You were proven wrong so you just say "I was right", hilarious. You've got insecurity issues to a scary degree.
Don't you know that even your followers, Fat Hurts and Co., know that you are wrong?
1) Trump hasn't been found innocent of anything. Was declared there wasn't enough evidence to pursue collusion, and I accept that (because I have 100% integrity 100% of the time), but obstruction is still out there as are a lot of other potential crimes that were pawned off to other offices. Ridiculous for you to say he was found innocent of anything.
2) Nope. Correct about the cheating.
3) He WILL be impeached. House is moving in that direction, and it WILL happen.
4) I have no followers and don't want any. If they believe I am wrong about Trump being impeached, then they are simply wrong.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.

Flagpole, you know sh^t about the American legal system. This is what you wrote: "Trump hasn't been found innocent of anything. " Trump doesn't have to be "found innocent" of anything. He has a PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE. The burden is not on him to be found innocent. He is innocent (has a presumption of innocence) unless it can be proved that he is indicted and convicted of a particular crime.

4 years ago 07/31/2019 1:56pm EDT

re: Sally Vix

One more thing - Jerry Nadler was incorrectly saying that Trump would have been indicted for obstruction except that he was a sitting president. That was a lie. Robert Mueller specifically said that was a lie. Robert Mueller said that Trump WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN INDICTED if not for the fact that he is a sitting president. You Liberals can spew your lies all you want but you WILL be called out on them.

4 years ago 07/31/2019 1:57pm EDT

re: Flagpole

Flagpole wrote:
Don't be like FP wrote:
Flagpole's loopholes are a hoot! First it was soon, that was over 2 years ago. Then he'll be in prison and he won't finish his first term. Your liberal leader is a nut job like Sanders, I'll tell ya anything and I expect you to believe it.
FP is absolutely gone nuts. He's wrong over and over and keeps coming back for more.
Dude, since I have 100% integrity 100% of the time, I tell the truth all the time, and here's the truth.
1) I never said anything would happen "soon". Never, never, never, and you can not find an instance in which I did. I always said "by end of his first term."
2) He still WILL go to prison...unless again, he dies first or there is criminal or space alien behavior that prevents it. I have not changed my opinion on that.
3) I never said he would be ending his first term BECAUSE he was going to prison. Those two things have always been separate.
4) I HAVE said he will not finish his first term, and I have also said for a while now that it appears I will be wrong about that. Unlike what many suggest here, I ALWAYS admit fault when I am wrong. Right now it just APPEARS I will be wrong about him not making it out of the first term. I will gladly say I was wrong if that does not happen. Trump and Barr have been very effective as delaying justice, and time is simply likely to run out for this first term,
I never have loopholes. I make predictions. Most are right. Some are not, and I ALWAYS admit when I was not right...ALWAYS and without fail.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Trumpers (not elected officials) are either JUST stupid or racist.
There are no other possibilities.

You have zero integrity. Trump has been found innocent by a Judge whom Bill Clinton, your hero, appointed. Let it go old man, get a life already. I can't imagine being in my 50's and clinging to a thread where I constantly lie and yearn for the approval of others. That's messed up and you're a chronic liar. No one is buying your lies, but keep posting, you're even giving my co-workers a laugh!

4 years ago 07/31/2019 2:06pm EDT

re: Sally Vix

Sally Vix wrote:
One more thing - Jerry Nadler was incorrectly saying that Trump would have been indicted for obstruction except that he was a sitting president. That was a lie. Robert Mueller specifically said that was a lie. Robert Mueller said that Trump WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN INDICTED if not for the fact that he is a sitting president. You Liberals can spew your lies all you want but you WILL be called out on them.

Mueller said he made no decision on whether Spanks would have been indicted if the DOJ forbade it.

No decision. No decision. No decision.

meanwhile we have a signed letter from hundreds of former federal prosecutors saying Trump committed obstruction.

4 years ago 07/31/2019 2:08pm EDT

re: jesseriley

jesseriley wrote:
UK Prime Minister AND Hillary are proven liars about Brexit! Congress says no to trade deal if there’s an Irish border, abrogating Good Friday Accord (a Clinton Lie Deal, of course).

fixed it for ya psycho man/3:45 marathoner

4 years ago 07/31/2019 2:09pm EDT

re: Conundrum

Conundrum wrote:
I thought it was a great debate. CNN did a very good job. They didn't give candidates much time to respond but so many of them tend to filibuster and talk around points the limited time kept their feet to the fire.
Thank God the moderates finally asserted themselves. I was very impressed by the nonames Bullock, Hickenlooper and Delaney. I hope one of them gains traction.
The Sanders/Warren ideas will not play in the general election. As one other poster mentioned, they comprise the tea party type energy that ruined the Republican party.
Pete seemed to triangulate his positions a bit too much. Beto was stilted. My opinion of both is somewhat less than it was before the debate.
Warren should have been directly confronted by her implication that moderate democrats are like Republicans. They are not. Nominating a social democrat is a huge risk for the democrats. The social democrats have an energetic core but in the long run they will hurt the party in a general election.
But the moderates did well.
The democrats will need a united front to win.

united front to win? but flagpole said he won't run for re-election. wow, what is today's libby lie from flagpole?

4 years ago 07/31/2019 2:10pm EDT

re: agip

agip wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
One more thing - Jerry Nadler was incorrectly saying that Trump would have been indicted for obstruction except that he was a sitting president. That was a lie. Robert Mueller specifically said that was a lie. Robert Mueller said that Trump WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN INDICTED if not for the fact that he is a sitting president. You Liberals can spew your lies all you want but you WILL be called out on them.
Mueller said he made no decision on whether Spanks would have been indicted if the DOJ forbade it.
No decision. No decision. No decision.
meanwhile we have a signed letter from hundreds of former federal prosecutors saying Trump committed obstruction.

Wrong, agip. There was an exchange with Mueller and Lieu that Jerry Nadler referenced as proof that Trump would have been indicted if not for being a sitting president. ROBERT MUELLER in the next day or so went out of his way to say this was false. He specifically said Trump would not have been indicted even if not a sitting president.

4 years ago 07/31/2019 2:10pm EDT

re: agip

agip wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
One more thing - Jerry Nadler was incorrectly saying that Trump would have been indicted for obstruction except that he was a sitting president. That was a lie. Robert Mueller specifically said that was a lie. Robert Mueller said that Trump WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN INDICTED if not for the fact that he is a sitting president. You Liberals can spew your lies all you want but you WILL be called out on them.
Mueller said he made no decision on whether Spanks would have been indicted if the DOJ forbade it.
No decision. No decision. No decision.
meanwhile we have a signed letter from hundreds of former federal prosecutors saying Trump committed obstruction.

liar! agip the conman angry over 2016. poor baby.

4 years ago 07/31/2019 2:11pm EDT

re: Buckeye gone Bonkers!!!!

Buckeye gone Bonkers!!!! wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Dude, since I have 100% integrity 100% of the time, I tell the truth all the time, and here's the truth.
1) I never said anything would happen "soon". Never, never, never, and you can not find an instance in which I did. I always said "by end of his first term."
2) He still WILL go to prison...unless again, he dies first or there is criminal or space alien behavior that prevents it. I have not changed my opinion on that.
3) I never said he would be ending his first term BECAUSE he was going to prison. Those two things have always been separate.
4) I HAVE said he will not finish his first term, and I have also said for a while now that it appears I will be wrong about that. Unlike what many suggest here, I ALWAYS admit fault when I am wrong. Right now it just APPEARS I will be wrong about him not making it out of the first term. I will gladly say I was wrong if that does not happen. Trump and Barr have been very effective as delaying justice, and time is simply likely to run out for this first term,
I never have loopholes. I make predictions. Most are right. Some are not, and I ALWAYS admit when I was not right...ALWAYS and without fail.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Trumpers (not elected officials) are either JUST stupid or racist.
There are no other possibilities.
You have zero integrity. Trump has been found innocent by a Judge whom Bill Clinton, your hero, appointed. Let it go old man, get a life already. I can't imagine being in my 50's and clinging to a thread where I constantly lie and yearn for the approval of others. That's messed up and you're a chronic liar. No one is buying your lies, but keep posting, you're even giving my co-workers a laugh!

INCORRECT! Trump has not been found "innocent" by anyone. Try again.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done and is going to go to prison (again, unless he dies first or criminal or space alien behavior prevent it).

4 years ago 07/31/2019 2:11pm EDT

re: Sally Vix

Sally Vix wrote:
agip wrote:
Mueller said he made no decision on whether Spanks would have been indicted if the DOJ forbade it.
No decision. No decision. No decision.
meanwhile we have a signed letter from hundreds of former federal prosecutors saying Trump committed obstruction.
Wrong, agip. There was an exchange with Mueller and Lieu that Jerry Nadler referenced as proof that Trump would have been indicted if not for being a sitting president. ROBERT MUELLER in the next day or so went out of his way to say this was false. He specifically said Trump would not have been indicted even if not a sitting president.

agip lies all the time. nothing new here.

4 years ago 07/31/2019 2:13pm EDT

re: Sally Vix

Sally Vix wrote:
agip wrote:
Mueller said he made no decision on whether Spanks would have been indicted if the DOJ forbade it.
No decision. No decision. No decision.
meanwhile we have a signed letter from hundreds of former federal prosecutors saying Trump committed obstruction.
Wrong, agip. There was an exchange with Mueller and Lieu that Jerry Nadler referenced as proof that Trump would have been indicted if not for being a sitting president. ROBERT MUELLER in the next day or so went out of his way to say this was false. He specifically said Trump would not have been indicted even if not a sitting president.

put up or shut up, is all I can say.

the text of Mueller's clarification specifically said he made no decision. None.

You have this dumb claim but refuse to prove it.

put up or shut up.

4 years ago 07/31/2019 2:14pm EDT

re: agip

agip wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Wrong, agip. There was an exchange with Mueller and Lieu that Jerry Nadler referenced as proof that Trump would have been indicted if not for being a sitting president. ROBERT MUELLER in the next day or so went out of his way to say this was false. He specifically said Trump would not have been indicted even if not a sitting president.
put up or shut up, is all I can say.
the text of Mueller's clarification specifically said he made no decision. None.
You have this dumb claim but refuse to prove it.
put up or shut up.

meanwhile, this:

Hundreds of former federal prosecutors have signed a letter asserting President Trump would have been charged with obstruction of justice if he didn't occupy the Oval Office.

In Monday's letter, former Department of Justice (DOJ) officials said the evidence of obstruction as laid out in special counsel Robert Mueller’s report was enough to bring forward an obstruction charge.

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/442312-hundreds-of-former-prosecutors-say-trump-wouldve-been-charged-with

4 years ago 07/31/2019 2:15pm EDT

re: agip

agip wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Wrong, agip. There was an exchange with Mueller and Lieu that Jerry Nadler referenced as proof that Trump would have been indicted if not for being a sitting president. ROBERT MUELLER in the next day or so went out of his way to say this was false. He specifically said Trump would not have been indicted even if not a sitting president.
put up or shut up, is all I can say.
the text of Mueller's clarification specifically said he made no decision. None.
You have this dumb claim but refuse to prove it.
put up or shut up.

I put his verbatim response a couple of days ago.

4 years ago 07/31/2019 2:16pm EDT

re: agip

agip wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Wrong, agip. There was an exchange with Mueller and Lieu that Jerry Nadler referenced as proof that Trump would have been indicted if not for being a sitting president. ROBERT MUELLER in the next day or so went out of his way to say this was false. He specifically said Trump would not have been indicted even if not a sitting president.
put up or shut up, is all I can say.
the text of Mueller's clarification specifically said he made no decision. None.
You have this dumb claim but refuse to prove it.
put up or shut up.

agip, you are CORRECT!

4 years ago 07/31/2019 2:19pm EDT

re: Flagpole

In Mueller's clarification the next day of his exchange with Ted Lieu, he said:

"That's not the correct way to say it," Mueller said. "We did not reach a determination as to whether the president committed a crime."

Nowhere did he say Trump would not have been indicted if he weren't the President.

As I correctly said before, agip, you are CORRECT!

4 years ago 07/31/2019 2:19pm EDT

re: Sally Vix

"Before we go to questions, I want to add one correction to my testimony this morning," Mueller told the panel. "I want to go back to one thing that was said this morning by Mr. Lieu who said, and I quote, 'You didn't charge the president because of the OLC opinion.' That is not the correct way to say it. As we say in the report, and as I said at the opening, we did not reach a determination as to whether the president committed a crime."

4 years ago 07/31/2019 2:21pm EDT

re: Sally Vix

Sally Vix wrote:
"Before we go to questions, I want to add one correction to my testimony this morning," Mueller told the panel. "I want to go back to one thing that was said this morning by Mr. Lieu who said, and I quote, 'You didn't charge the president because of the OLC opinion.' That is not the correct way to say it. As we say in the report, and as I said at the opening, we did not reach a determination as to whether the president committed a crime."

ok then we are agreeing.

Mueller said he made zero decision on whether trump would have been indicted, had the DOJ memo not existed.

Not sure what you are accusing me of lying about.

4 years ago 07/31/2019 2:22pm EDT

re: Flagpole

Flagpole wrote:
In Mueller's clarification the next day of his exchange with Ted Lieu, he said:
"That's not the correct way to say it," Mueller said. "We did not reach a determination as to whether the president committed a crime."
Nowhere did he say Trump would not have been indicted if he weren't the President.
As I correctly said before, agip, you are CORRECT!

Flagpole, you have no business being in this discussion. You have been routinely wrong in the past and have made a mockery of this semi-serious discussion. You have ZERO integrity. You call women "whores." What kind of man calls women whores? You suggested that Trump needs to "prove" his innocence. Obviously you have ZERO understanding of the American legal system. You are a fraud. And an unapologetic one. You really are not too embarrassed to show your face around here? I sure would be.

4 years ago 07/31/2019 2:25pm EDT

re: agip

agip wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
"Before we go to questions, I want to add one correction to my testimony this morning," Mueller told the panel. "I want to go back to one thing that was said this morning by Mr. Lieu who said, and I quote, 'You didn't charge the president because of the OLC opinion.' That is not the correct way to say it. As we say in the report, and as I said at the opening, we did not reach a determination as to whether the president committed a crime."
ok then we are agreeing.
Mueller said he made zero decision on whether trump would have been indicted, had the DOJ memo not existed.
Not sure what you are accusing me of lying about.

Once again...agip, you are CORRECT!

4 years ago 07/31/2019 2:29pm EDT

Pookie Washington wrote:
Buckeye gone Bonkers!!!! wrote:
You have zero integrity. Trump has been found innocent by a Judge whom Bill Clinton, your hero, appointed. Let it go old man, get a life already. I can't imagine being in my 50's and clinging to a thread where I constantly lie and yearn for the approval of others. That's messed up and you're a chronic liar. No one is buying your lies, but keep posting, you're even giving my co-workers a laugh!
He likes to deflect anything that disagrees with his warped views on politics. My advice, ignore his posts, he's a loose cannon who's still angry that Hillary lost and cheated while doing it. He'll never get over it.

And how exactly did HRC "cheat?" And don't give me some looney right-wing conspiracy BS.

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