Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Not Born in the USA wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Sure, during the Vietnam War “love it or leave it.” You are as bad as actual racists. Everyone you disagree with is a racist.

I think you are missing the point completely. When you are told "Go BACK to YOUR country" you are told that you are an outsider who does not belong to the country. It's entirely different from "love it or leave it."

If you cannot tell the difference, you are totally clueless about the minority experience in this country.

How about the experience of small town Americans between the two coasts? Don’t you think they tire just a little bit of this nonsense?

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Not Born in the USA wrote:

If you cannot tell the difference, you are totally clueless about the minority experience in this country.

How about the experience of small town Americans between the two coasts? Don’t you think they tire just a little bit of this nonsense?

How dare you refer to minorities as "this nonsense", you ignorant racist.

Non Senses wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

How about the experience of small town Americans between the two coasts? Don’t you think they tire just a little bit of this nonsense?

How dare you refer to minorities as "this nonsense", you ignorant racist.

You can’t argue a point, so that is all you have. Ignorant loser.

Votes don't magically turn into other people's votes....again.....vote's don't magically turn into other people's votes!!!!

Why would a Stein voter vote for Clinton or any other mainstream Democrat? Ditto Johnson.

People vote third candidate or they don't vote at all.

Alan

How's your reading comprehension?

I never said 400. I said approach 400. 350 is "approaching" 400 in my book.

It could be as low as 300 or as high as 400 all swung by a 3-5% change in the state's popular vote.

Go back to 2016. How many states did Trump win by less than 5%?

This presidency, and its polling, is unlike any other in history. His approval has been steady within a tight margin of error. When good things or bad thing happen you would expect a bounce or drop. Other than his government shutdowns there really hasn't been movement. He's also headed for another shutdown this fall because he's a hell of an idiot and always doubles down. And the bell will likely toll on this economic growth before Nov 2020. The signs are there.

So.....

At minimum he loses WI, MI and PA and that loses him the election. He then most likely loses IA. That's like nearly 300 right there.

My best guess is he loses AZ, OH or IN but not all 3. He loses FL or NC but not both. And GA and TX are a pipe dream....

The GOP isn't going to paint Biden or Harris as ideological nut bags....they are both opportunists. The GOP playbook has for years been trying to scare the American public into believing all of the Dems are crazy Socialists!! Ooooh scary!!!

Policy doesn't win presidential elections. Personality and likeability does. And everyone hates Trump.

Alan[/quote]

Alan, we agree that you said near 400 EV and 350 isn't near. I'm simply rounding up to 400 and if your candidate gets 380 or above then that's fine.

You prediction will flop just as Clownpole has many done times. How's that Beto prediction working out for ya?

KAG2020[/quote]

Everyone has moved on from Beto...so should you!!! You should also move on from Clinton.

Beto had the "it" factor....he simply lacked all of the fundamental knowledge, leadership, experience, and competence to lead a national campaign. He's a lesson to learn from for sure.

Alan

Then and stuff wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Even with everything against him, Tiny can still win by cheating.

If Tiny loses he will claim the other side cheated and he is therefore still the president.

Then what happens?

Then he gets escorted off the WH grounds on Jan 20, 2021.

Fat Hurts - I had thought you were an adult but you keep referring to Trump as "Tiny." Are you really this childish? Are you really only a teen? Very embarrassing on your part.

Runningart2004 wrote:

People vote third candidate or they don't vote at all.

Alan

That may be true for some, but many third party voters do consider it their civic duty to vote no matter what. The third party candidates are only a protest vote.

I voted for Nader, but if Gore had any chance at all in my state I would have voted Gore. And of course, if Nader had not been on the ballot I would have also voted for Gore.

My brother is a Republican never-Trumper. He voted for Evan McMullin. But if it was only between Clinton and Tiny, I'm absolutely certain he would have still voted. Ditto for his wife who also voted McMullin.

Nader did cost Gore the election in Florida. Third party matters when it's super-close.

Sally Vix wrote:

Then and stuff wrote:

Then he gets escorted off the WH grounds on Jan 20, 2021.

Fat Hurts - I had thought you were an adult but you keep referring to Trump as "Tiny." Are you really this childish? Are you really only a teen? Very embarrassing on your part.

This is an anonymous political thread on the internet. Childishness goes with the territory. Nobody here is embarrassed. That's why you are able to lie with impunity.

But Tiny acts childish every day in plain sight. And he's the president. He is an embarrassment to the country and he needs to go away.

Fat hurts wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

Fat Hurts - I had thought you were an adult but you keep referring to Trump as "Tiny." Are you really this childish? Are you really only a teen? Very embarrassing on your part.

This is an anonymous political thread on the internet. Childishness goes with the territory. Nobody here is embarrassed. That's why you are able to lie with impunity.

But Tiny acts childish every day in plain sight. And he's the president. He is an embarrassment to the country and he needs to go away.

And also the "Tiny" thing is sort of an homage to Garry Trudeau.

Fat hurts wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

Fat Hurts - I had thought you were an adult but you keep referring to Trump as "Tiny." Are you really this childish? Are you really only a teen? Very embarrassing on your part.

This is an anonymous political thread on the internet. Childishness goes with the territory. Nobody here is embarrassed. That's why you are able to lie with impunity.

But Tiny acts childish every day in plain sight. And he's the president. He is an embarrassment to the country and he needs to go away.

I guess when you Liberals were directing us conservatives that there is some decorum necessary to treat the office of the presidency as one with a certain respect when Barack Obama was president no longer applies.

For those saying polls don't matter right now I would agree if this was a typical election and a typical presidency. Previous presidents have had a much wider variation in their approval and, more importantly, a much lower disapproval. Meaning you had a lot more "I don't knows".

Alan

Sally Vix wrote:

Fat Hurts - I had thought you were an adult but you keep referring to Trump as "Tiny." Are you really this childish? Are you really only a teen? Very embarrassing on your part.

First you whine about childish comments, and in the next sentence you make a childish comment yourself. You should be embarrassed.

Fat hurts wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

People vote third candidate or they don't vote at all.

Alan

That may be true for some, but many third party voters do consider it their civic duty to vote no matter what. The third party candidates are only a protest vote.

I voted for Nader, but if Gore had any chance at all in my state I would have voted Gore. And of course, if Nader had not been on the ballot I would have also voted for Gore.

My brother is a Republican never-Trumper. He voted for Evan McMullin. But if it was only between Clinton and Tiny, I'm absolutely certain he would have still voted. Ditto for his wife who also voted McMullin.

Nader did cost Gore the election in Florida. Third party matters when it's super-close.

I voted for Stein in 2016; I was convinced HRC would win. In 2020 I will not vote for a 3rd party. Trump absolutely has to go. Maybe in the future there will be a viable 3rd party candidate. But until the Republican party gets a full course enema to remove the stench of Trumpism I will be voting whomever the Democratic candidates are for president, Congress and the major state offices. And that is the way it is starting this next election cycle.

Runningart2004 wrote:

For those saying polls don't matter right now I would agree if this was a typical election and a typical presidency. Previous presidents have had a much wider variation in their approval and, more importantly, a much lower disapproval. Meaning you had a lot more "I don't knows".

Alan

The reason Trumpers cry out that polls do not matter is because Trump is behind in every single legit poll. Otherwise, they would be crying out in joy ... same as they cry out in joy when then claim how wonderful Trump markets have been (never mind that they have to steal months from Obama to make Trump look like a market genius and not a market buffoon).

This time around nearly all the dem candidates are socialists and a green party candidate is much closer to their leftist ideology. This only makes it easier for a Trump win.

I think Stein voters in PA, MI and WI assumed Hillary was going to win those states and/or the general easily and voted Stein as a small protest.

If they had a binary choice of Trump or Hillary, Stein voters surely weren’t going to vote for Trump.

The whole system needs to be changed.

Get it down to a final two that guarantees someone gets more than fifty percent of the vote.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Not Born in the USA wrote:

I think you are missing the point completely. When you are told "Go BACK to YOUR country" you are told that you are an outsider who does not belong to the country. It's entirely different from "love it or leave it."

If you cannot tell the difference, you are totally clueless about the minority experience in this country.

How about the experience of small town Americans between the two coasts? Don’t you think they tire just a little bit of this nonsense?

So . . . small town Americans between the two coasts are being told to go back to where they came from?

Okaayyyyyyyyy . . .

Sally Vix wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

This is an anonymous political thread on the internet. Childishness goes with the territory. Nobody here is embarrassed. That's why you are able to lie with impunity.

But Tiny acts childish every day in plain sight. And he's the president. He is an embarrassment to the country and he needs to go away.

I guess when you Liberals were directing us conservatives that there is some decorum necessary to treat the office of the presidency as one with a certain respect when Barack Obama was president no longer applies.

That sentence doesn't make any sense. Are you drunk?

Bad system wrote:

I think Stein voters in PA, MI and WI assumed Hillary was going to win those states and/or the general easily and voted Stein as a small protest.

If they had a binary choice of Trump or Hillary, Stein voters surely weren’t going to vote for Trump.

The whole system needs to be changed.

Get it down to a final two that guarantees someone gets more than fifty percent of the vote.

Georgia has that system for statewide offices. If nobody gets 50% of the vote then they have a special runoff election between the top two contenders.

It sounds good, but in practice it's very expensive to have yet another election.

And very few people vote in the runoff election. So the winner ends up being the one with the most fervent supporters who are willing to come back and vote in the one or two races that have a runoff.

IMO, it doesn't do a great job of reflecting the will of the people.