Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Most of those are shell companies. They are not successful.

Tiny got terrible returns on his Dad's money. He has squandered his inheritance.

He's a billionaire, hello? Look, I get it, you hate the guy, but don't let it blind you to the facts. Trump is loaded financially with plenty of fine golf courses and real estate - hardly "squandered." The Trump Organization is now run by Don Jr and Eric and they are easily keeping the Trump Jet fueled and ready to go.

Just stick to your "Orange man, bad" psychosis. Or better yet, do the Runningart pledge and risk a self ban from LR.

No guts, no glory.

KAG2020

He was born rich. And he is still rich.

But he is still terrible at business and his poor returns are proof of that. If he were just an average businessman he would be at least twice as rich as he is now.

All you are saying is that if you are born rich, it's easy to stay rich no matter how incompetent you are.

Yay VP wrote:

Watch closely as Pence makes zero visual contact with any of the detainees. He looks above, below, to the sides, but not at them.. this Christian doesn’t have a shred of decency.

https://twitter.com/petebuttigieg/status/1149868476682649600?s=21

Amen Mayor Pete.

Flaggy, Flaggy, Flaggy.

You really think that all parties in a bet do not know the outcome? You can do better than that? And is a "future event?" Come on now.

You're in a real pickle now because your words are coming back to haunt you. You're using your own (ever-changing) definitions of "bet" against your own original argument.

Now you either have to 1) admit that the "pledge" is not a bet or 2) admit your "WEJO check my IP...." that you have used incessantly is a bet.

You claim that wejo checking your IP is not a bet with him. You are correct. However, the bet in this case would be between you and me. I said that those sock puppets were you (and they were). You said the posters were not you. And you said "WEJO, DO AN IP CHECK, AND IF I LIE, BAN ME FOR LIFE!" In your own definition of bet, checking with wejo is the "future event." Same as in the example WRONG! made that checking a reliable source (ex. encyclopedia) to verify the # of HRs. Why would his bet be with an encyclopedia? Also, the same as verifying that Trump won the election with a reliable source(s) in the "pledge/bet."

If you want to play it the other way then fine. Your "Wejo, do an IP check" is not a bet and the "pledge" is not a bet either since you are not "betting" anyone Trump will win.

1) You are just making a statement agreeing to stop posting if Trump wins - not betting with anyone.

2) You are just making a statement agreeing to a ban for life if wejo does an IP check and you lied - not betting with anyone..

Can't spin it both ways, brother.

I'll break it down in simple terms using YOUR definition of a bet.

Trump Pledge/Bet: "If Trump wins, I will stop posting."

Flagpole Tagline: "If I lie, ban me for life."

Unknown: Outcome of election

Unknown: Outcome of wejo's IP check

Future event: verification of election results with a reliable source.

Future event: verification of IP's by wejo

Either both a bet according to your own definition or neither are a bet according to your own definition.

The third choice you have is to continue being an idiot. I bet you go with choice #3.

Fat hurts wrote:

Trying again v2 wrote:

How about when two people want to or simply feel more comfortable not being watched by others? Is that not ok?

Of course it's ok. Just know that you are both taking a risk.

Can you be more specific? Are you only talking about the risk of appearing to have an unprofessional engagement or relationship? Does this go for man-to-man meetings and woman-to-woman meetings?

Budda wrote:

Mr Pot wrote:

Try performance ratings or confidential matters, want other examples? Why are you Neanderthals so afraid of your wives and of your own male anxiety that you can’t handle speaking to someone of the opposite sex in private?

What’s up with all these men insisting that they NEED to have private meetings with women.

Weird.

Please quote a post where anyone has “insisted” men meet in private with women. You must be Sally

Rigged has a wild imagination. He wants so badly to believe Trump is a rags to riches guy. Not only did he inherit a jackpot, he was getting millions a year in allowance money from daddy well into his middle age... that is called being a trust fund baby, hardly the life 99.9% of Americans.

I bet Rigged is one of those who think the same rules that apply to the poor apply to the rich. Somebody born with that much capital has far superior prospects of improving their net worth in life and far superior ability to bypass barriers and no doubt can play by separate rules.

Trump is a rich fat slob who likes to operate in the grey area and stomp on people for any gain. Hardly someone to look up to.

He was born rich for sure. Daddy gave him more than $400 million in today's value.

Depending on how you define "rich", I am not 100% sure that he is that today. He obviously has access to money, but he has long called himself the "King of Debt", he has continued to want huge loans from banks, and no US bank (or any bank with any sense) will give him a loan anymore, and while he has his name on a lot of things, he doesn't own many of those things outright or even at all (name leased).

It is probably accurate to say that if he pared down his business holdings to only those that actually make any money (most likely his real estate holdings that bring in rent) that he'd be bringing in some halfway decent income, but it is doubtful at this point if he's actually a billionaire.

He is a failed businessman who would have more money today if he had simply invested his money that Daddy gave him. His list of failed business ventures is long:

Bankruptcy = 6 times

Trump University = Failed

Trump Fragrance = Failed

Trump Coffee = Failed

Trump Shoes = Failed

Trump Home Mattresses = Failed

Trump Urine Test = Failed

Trump Airways = Failed

Trump Steaks = Failed

GoTrump.com = Failed

Trump Plaza Casino and Hotel = Failed

Trump Vodka = Failed

Trump Mortgage = Failed

Trump Marina Hotel Casino = Failed

Trump the Game = Laughably Failed

Trump Magazine = Failed

Trump Taj Mahal = Failed

Trump Ice = Failed

New Jersey Generals Football team = Failed

Tour de Trump = Failed

Trump on the Oceans Resorts = Failed

The Trump Network = Failed

Trump! Radio Network = Failed

Trump Pillows = Failed

Trump New Media = Failed

Trump Ice spring water = Failed

Trump International Hotel and Tower (Dubai) = Failed

He is also a failed President.

I reject your comments.

Me telling someone that I will gladly accept a lifetime banning if it is proven that I posted as a specific someone else is NOT a bet. A BET has to incur risk, and there is no risk by me here, because I know that I did not post as said person. Also, there is nothing in it for anyone else (cue joke that if I don't post anymore it's a win for everyone), and certainly not for Wejo.

Now, if I said "If you EVER find that I post under another name, then you can ban me for life", THAT would be a bet.

Liar. Never once did I say or imply that Trump was a rags to riches guy. You are overly preoccupied with his body type. Who cares if the man is overweight?

Unlike Trump, you are for America last, for socialism, for open borders, for killing babies and for making illegal aliens a priority over our own citizens.

Your party will not nominate a candidate to defeat Trump next year.

KAG2020

He was born rich indeed. The NY Times estimates that Trump got about $60 million from his dad in loans. Forbes estimates his current wealth at 3.5 billion. Anyone he says he is a terrible businessman is not a very smart dude.

Ha! Looks like I was correct. You went full board with #3!! lol

You can reject my comments all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that I am right and you are wrong.

Let's let you hang by your own words...AGAIN.

If that is not a bet. Telling someone that you will stop posting here if it is proven that Trump wins in 2020 is NOT a bet.

There IS risk to you because wejo could come here and say that it was you who posted as said person and ban you. In this instance, it is not absolute truth (that you did not post under another name) that determines the outcome. It is wejo saying it was or was not the same IP and banning you.

Also, a bet does not have to incur risk. I can bet you that Serena Williams lost the Wimbledon final this year. Whomever is right wins the bet and nothing is risked. You could say that we both risk being wrong. If you do then your "WEJO, IP Ban me" is certainly a bet since we both risk being wrong.

Doesn't matter if there is nothing in it for anyone else. I can make the following bet: "If you can throw a ball 10 feet, I'll give you $10 ." There's nothing in it for me, but there is something for you. Still a bet. Also, you said earlier that the Trump 2020 pledge/bet WAS a bet because people who didn't want anti-Trump posters posting on the board could win. You being banned could certainly be something of a win for me or just proving you lied would be something for me. :-)

Your words betray you. You can't escape them. They'll get you every time.

I'll repeat that you are in quite an embarrassing situation here. You are either wrong that the Trump pledge/bet is not a bet and that your "WEJO, BAN ME..." statement is a not bet. Or, that the Trump pledge/bet is a bet and your "WEJO...." statement is a bet also. Either way, you trying to weasel your way out of it is low class.

Are you going to triple down on stupid?

True Sweester wrote:

Are you going to triple down on stupid?

HI, HARDLOPER!!!

Flaggy lives inside your head.

Sally Vix wrote:

He was born rich indeed. The NY Times estimates that Trump got about $60 million from his dad in loans. Forbes estimates his current wealth at 3.5 billion. Anyone he says he is a terrible businessman is not a very smart dude.

Trump inherited (i.e., not a loan) well over $400 million.

If he had simply invested it in an S&P 500 index fund he would have over $10 Billion today.

Unavoidable conclusion: He is a terrible businessman.

Now do try to keep up

Obvi wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

He was born rich indeed. The NY Times estimates that Trump got about $60 million from his dad in loans. Forbes estimates his current wealth at 3.5 billion. Anyone he says he is a terrible businessman is not a very smart dude.

Trump inherited (i.e., not a loan) well over $400 million.

If he had simply invested it in an S&P 500 index fund he would have over $10 Billion today.

Unavoidable conclusion: He is a terrible businessman.

Now do try to keep up

Just to be clear ... he inherited $400 billion way back then or in today's dollars? Makes a huge difference.

Mr Pot wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Of course it's ok. Just know that you are both taking a risk.

Can you be more specific? Are you only talking about the risk of appearing to have an unprofessional engagement or relationship? Does this go for man-to-man meetings and woman-to-woman meetings?

Many risks, up to and including a lawsuit. That's just the way it is. Assess the risk and act accordingly.

Trump says what millions of Americans think and fully support.

Just say no to immigration!!!

No lib has the guts to enter the Runningart pledge. No Fat hurts, no Trollminator, no Monkeys typing, no Clownpole, no agip. No guts. All talk, no action.

KAG2020

Sally Vix wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

He was born rich. And he is still rich.

But he is still terrible at business and his poor returns are proof of that. If he were just an average businessman he would be at least twice as rich as he is now.

All you are saying is that if you are born rich, it's easy to stay rich no matter how incompetent you are.

He was born rich indeed. The NY Times estimates that Trump got about $60 million from his dad in loans. Forbes estimates his current wealth at 3.5 billion. Anyone he says he is a terrible businessman is not a very smart dude.

So you believe that the loans totaled $60 million? That means you admit Tiny was lying about only getting $1 million from his father.

If you looked at the NY Times article, you will notice that the loans were never repaid. When you don't have to pay it back, it's not really a loan.

Also, you don't mention the hundreds of millions he got in direct payments from his father and his father's estate. You also don't mention that it was his father's influence peddling that have him a huge boost in the early days of his business.

It's not me who did the analysis of Tiny's return on investment. Several skilled financial gurus have looked at it and shown how he unperformed the market.

The conclusion is inescapable. Tiny is terrible at business.

Fat hurts wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

He was born rich indeed. The NY Times estimates that Trump got about $60 million from his dad in loans. Forbes estimates his current wealth at 3.5 billion. Anyone he says he is a terrible businessman is not a very smart dude.

So you believe that the loans totaled $60 million? That means you admit Tiny was lying about only getting $1 million from his father.

If you looked at the NY Times article, you will notice that the loans were never repaid. When you don't have to pay it back, it's not really a loan.

It's not me who did the analysis of Tiny's return on investment. Several skilled financial gurus have looked at it and shown how he unperformed the market.

The conclusion is inescapable. Tiny is terrible at business.

You can give a $1 billion to everyone on LetsRun. 95% have no money left after 20 years. Trump is worth $3.5 billion. You have to admit he is one of the savviest businessman ever.