Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

As if we didn’t already know this...all talk, no action....

https://www.apnews.com/84ad15edb7324472bb867852059a0a7a

Maybe if your not ready to fight you should rethink your strategy of “maximum pressure” and how your adversary might react once you reimpose severe sanctions. Trump and his foreign policy team are a bunch of retards.

Yeah, maybe the nuclear deal wasn’t ideal but what’s the alternative? Basically it’s war. So unless your willing to go that route maybe you should have a detailed plan before you withdraw from the deal.

Chickenhawk Trump wrote:

As if we didn’t already know this...all talk, no action....

Maybe if your not ready to fight you should rethink your strategy of “maximum pressure” and how your adversary might react once you reimpose severe sanctions. Trump and his foreign policy team are a bunch of retards.

Yeah, maybe the nuclear deal wasn’t ideal but what’s the alternative? Basically it’s war. So unless your willing to go that route maybe you should have a detailed plan before you withdraw from the deal.

To be fair, trump is in a strange situation here. He has campaigned and governed on a platform of isolationism and staying out of forever wars...but he knows a war will help him.

It's a tough political and governing problem. Attack and have to go back on all the stuff you've been saying...or play it cool and look weak.

Of course, if he had stayed in the iran deal then this wouldn't have happened, so it's his fault.

Posting using a VPN with a non-US IP address this AM are we?

Runningart2004 wrote:

Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton...none were considered a threat for the nomination until well into the debates.

Alan

Alan, you really don't know what you are talking about. Bush was the leader from the moment he entered the race. Actually even before then, as he was in the lead in some very early polls as early as 1997. He never trailed at any point in the race.

Obama was second of three early front-runners. So while not the favorite it would be entirely incorrect to say he would not be considered a threat.

Trump led the race from the time he entered in mid-2015.

The 1992 primary was a pretty wide-open up and down race, but Clinton was always considered a threat and was always among the top 3 candidates.

Pointing it out (again!) wrote:

The market's performance has virtually nothing to do with the Presidents actions.

Can both you and Sally not even comprehend that?

When the president puts in tariffs or even says he is going to put in tariffs, markets react.

Or if there is a major tax policy change, markets react.

Got it?

And they aren't small reactions.

Trump provoked Iran by tearing up the deal we had with them. It hurts US integrity.

And flying drones in or around Iranian airspace is also provocative.

I do like that he is not rushing into battle.

If a Democrat president had said that a foreign enemy had a made a forgivable mistake by shooting down a US aircraft, they would have been vilified.

Trump can get away with that. And it's a good thing this time.

VPN tell in your post wrote:

agip wrote:

To be fair, trump is in a strange situation here. He has campaigned and governed on a platform of isolationism and staying out of forever wars...but he knows a war will help him.

It's a tough political and governing problem. Attack and have to go back on all the stuff you've been saying...or play it cool and look weak.

Of course, if he had stayed in the iran deal then this wouldn't have happened, so it's his fault.

Posting using a VPN with a non-US IP address this AM are we?

kind of cool being the subject of someone's obsession. Even if he is always wrong.

So far, this guy thinks I am an investment banker, paid a lot, would prefer trump to Warren, and now he thinks I am posting with a VPN with a non-US IP address.

Party on, dude. Interested as always in your fandom.

L L wrote:

Pointing it out (again!) wrote:

The market's performance has virtually nothing to do with the Presidents actions.

Can both you and Sally not even comprehend that?

When the president puts in tariffs or even says he is going to put in tariffs, markets react.

Or if there is a major tax policy change, markets react.

Got it?

And they aren't small reactions.

I understand your ignorance. You have my sympathies.

L L wrote:

Trump provoked Iran by tearing up the deal we had with them. It hurts US integrity.

And flying drones in or around Iranian airspace is also provocative.

And then the U.S. claimed the drone was some 30 miles from Iran, and out over the Gulf. But Iran has the drone debris they recovered on their land; not even from the sea.

Trump Admin is guilty of the most poorly executed war-attempt operation of all time.

Pointing it out (again!) wrote:

I understand your ignorance.

It is impossible for you make such a claim when you have your head shoved up your a*s.

red flag wrote:

L L wrote:

Trump provoked Iran by tearing up the deal we had with them. It hurts US integrity.

And flying drones in or around Iranian airspace is also provocative.

And then the U.S. claimed the drone was some 30 miles from Iran, and out over the Gulf. But Iran has the drone debris they recovered on their land; not even from the sea.

Trump Admin is guilty of the most poorly executed war-attempt operation of all time.

Well, Trump claimed the drone was manned. And he was "cocked and loaded" (according to a tweet of his this a.m.).

red flag wrote:

L L wrote:

Trump provoked Iran by tearing up the deal we had with them. It hurts US integrity.

And flying drones in or around Iranian airspace is also provocative.

And then the U.S. claimed the drone was some 30 miles from Iran, and out over the Gulf. But Iran has the drone debris they recovered on their land; not even from the sea.

Trump Admin is guilty of the most poorly executed war-attempt operation of all time.

Typical Trump bullshit regarding why he cancelled the strikes:

In a stunning tweet thread, the president said the U.S. was "cocked & loaded to retaliate" with plans to hit three sites, but he reversed course after asking military leaders about how many would be killed.

"... I asked, how many will die. 150 people, sir, was the answer from a General. 10 minutes before the strike I stopped it, not ... proportionate to shooting down an unmanned drone. I am in no hurry, our Military is rebuilt, new, and ready to go, by far the best in the world,"

In any written or oral recommendation for a military strike, estimated casualties are going to be disclosed. To do not do so, would be like a recommendation to buy an office building without disclosing the price. The story that the strikes had been approved, but cancelled because he asked about casualties didn't happen.

cocked and loaded wrote:

red flag wrote:

And then the U.S. claimed the drone was some 30 miles from Iran, and out over the Gulf. But Iran has the drone debris they recovered on their land; not even from the sea.

Trump Admin is guilty of the most poorly executed war-attempt operation of all time.

Well, Trump claimed the drone was manned. And he was "cocked and loaded" (according to a tweet of his this a.m.).

false. Iran claims the wreckage was recovered from the sea.

Although we are still in a fog of war situation.

I would disregard any and all photos you see of debris - these things are cooked up as a matter of course, for social media purposes. To spread the Iranian message and stir up their people.

"“At 00:14 US drone took off from UAE in stealth mode & violated Iranian airspace,” he said in a tweet that included coordinates that he said were near Kouh-e Mobarak. “We’ve retrieved sections of the US military drone in OUR territorial waters where it was shot down.”"

agip wrote:

cocked and loaded wrote:

Well, Trump claimed the drone was manned. And he was "cocked and loaded" (according to a tweet of his this a.m.).

false. Iran claims the wreckage was recovered from the sea.

Although we are still in a fog of war situation.

I would disregard any and all photos you see of debris - these things are cooked up as a matter of course, for social media purposes. To spread the Iranian message and stir up their people.

"“At 00:14 US drone took off from UAE in stealth mode & violated Iranian airspace,” he said in a tweet that included coordinates that he said were near Kouh-e Mobarak. “We’ve retrieved sections of the US military drone in OUR territorial waters where it was shot down.”"

Recovered from the sea? Outside their territory? In international waters where U.S. ships could easily stop a recovery operation? Smells fishy.

To be clear. My comments are directed at the U.S. claims of where the drone was shot down.

nuke them wrote:

agip wrote:

false. Iran claims the wreckage was recovered from the sea.

Although we are still in a fog of war situation.

I would disregard any and all photos you see of debris - these things are cooked up as a matter of course, for social media purposes. To spread the Iranian message and stir up their people.

"“At 00:14 US drone took off from UAE in stealth mode & violated Iranian airspace,” he said in a tweet that included coordinates that he said were near Kouh-e Mobarak. “We’ve retrieved sections of the US military drone in OUR territorial waters where it was shot down.”"

Recovered from the sea? Outside their territory? In international waters where U.S. ships could easily stop a recovery operation? Smells fishy.

We don't know. We don't know if Iran did collect debris. We don't know where they collected it from. We don't know if some US commander decided not to intercept Iranian warships heading out to the debris field. We don't know if any US ships were in the vicinity.

agip wrote:

nuke them wrote:

Recovered from the sea? Outside their territory? In international waters where U.S. ships could easily stop a recovery operation? Smells fishy.

We don't know. We don't know if Iran did collect debris. We don't know where they collected it from. We don't know if some US commander decided not to intercept Iranian warships heading out to the debris field. We don't know if any US ships were in the vicinity.

But we "know" there absolutely was a drone doing drone stuff--surveillance? spying? Maybe the U.S. should stop sending drones along the borders of other countries. Because if the same happened in the U.S. the military would shot them down, and recover them, regardless of where they fell down--even if the cars was in a foreign country (Iraq, Syria, Egypt...).

Droning wrote:

agip wrote:

We don't know. We don't know if Iran did collect debris. We don't know where they collected it from. We don't know if some US commander decided not to intercept Iranian warships heading out to the debris field. We don't know if any US ships were in the vicinity.

But we "know" there absolutely was a drone doing drone stuff--surveillance? spying? Maybe the U.S. should stop sending drones along the borders of other countries. Because if the same happened in the U.S. the military would shot them down, and recover them, regardless of where they fell down--even if the cars was in a foreign country (Iraq, Syria, Egypt...).

False.

The US would not shoot down a drone along its borders if the drone was in international waters. If it came into US waters...then maybe. Doubt it.

Disagree on your blanket disapproval of spying. It's absolutely necessary to have information on hostile nations. Seems self evident to me so I wont' say much more on that.