Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Runningart2004 wrote:

Hmmmmmm wrote:

Nope. You cannot even read your own comment.

You wrote: I would note that Biden's support is really only strong among OLDER African American voters. And their support is not passionate, it is a belief in the electability argument. Wouldn't be the first time you supported the worst general election candidate. That is directly responsible for Trump's presidency and if Biden is the nominee the chances of a Trump reelection goes up enormously.

To assist your peabrain.

President Trump’s internal polling data from March showed him far behind Joe Biden in key battleground states

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-trumps-internal-polling-data-march-showed-joe/story?id=63718268

Yep. Amongst Dem candidates Biden polls better in head to head matchups with Trump.

He is the most centrist and brings up the AA vote.

Alan

The Black Community as a whole is not very accepting of gay people, especially not gay men. Buttigieg would not do as well with them as other Democrat candidates.

As you Alan, and agip have said, Biden has larger support among black voters than any other candidate so far.

I wish he were younger, though his age does not disqualify him for me.

I wish he weren't so touchy-feely in his past, though from what I know today, that does not disqualify him for me.

I REALLY like Elizabeth Warren as a candidate as she is super smart and dynamic with plans other than getting rid of Trump. While it is ridiculous, I think the Native American thing has hurt her chances too much so that she will not win the Democrat nomination.

I also REALLY like Kamala Harris. She also is super smart and would be a great President.

Mayor Pete seems cool and calm with appropriate responses to just about everything so far. I just don't think he has enough experience yet to be a favorite. But, I do like him a lot.

The polling on that site is interesting, especially if you use the slider and begin from Jan. 2017 to today and watch the country change. Texas only is up 3% on approval of him. Beto on the ticket could make Texas go blue. That would be too much for Trump to overcome right there. Not sure Biden would pick Beto though as a running mate assuming Biden is the nominee. Will be huge pressure for him to pick a woman.

Biden/Harris would be unbeatable. I'm not sure she'd take the job, but man oh man.

She doesn't seem likely to take a second in command position. But that would be a great, great double bill.

Often wrong but never in doubt wrote:

You have some reading comprehension problems. I dd not vote for Trump and will not vote for him in 2020 either. I said the Dems were being stupid by nominating Clinton. I was right. Some people want to ignore that the dynamics are very similar and go ahead and nominate Biden. Those are the pro-Trump people. Agip is fine with Trump winning, as long as Dems don't nominate one of those wacky liberals...

Hmmmmmm wrote:

Your Trumpet hat seems to be welded on to your skull.

Please try not being so obviously biased in the future. Your comment screams of desperation ... "please don't vote, young people, or else Trump will lose in 2020". Thanks in advance.

It is not a matter or whacky or sane candidates, strategically it’s simply a matter of the party really supporting the candidate with the best chance. To put it simply, HRC blew it and so did Dem voters. It’s hard to say how Sanders would have done against him, although I suspect well but who knows if it would have been enough. Yes the party needs to produce a candidate that can win, but also important is for them to protect the integrity of the primary process and for lazy voters to gtfo off their a$$es and vote for whoever is on the ticket.

And enough casual voters sat home because Clinton was seen as a dynastic and dirty candidate. Never before have we had such unpopular candidates. I don't see that repeating itself in 2020.

Alan

Perhaps your first reaction is not so correct after all. And perhaps it is not so unreasonable to think that there is a conspiracy going on.

"Trump administration providing ‘false’ information about Gulf of Oman attack, says Japanese tanker owner"

Runningart2004 wrote:

And enough casual voters sat home because Clinton was seen as a dynastic and dirty candidate. Never before have we had such unpopular candidates. I don't see that repeating itself in 2020.

Alan

You'll see the same dynamic if Biden is the nominee. Old, out of touch, bad record, bad campaigner. He will be very unpopular by the time of the general. He still might win, but it is a wholly unnecessary risk with little upside.

I have yet to hear anybody articulate a reason to supports Biden's candidacy beyond electability. Is there something you think Biden is going to do or wants to do that you want done? I've yet to hear him articulate a reason for his candidacy. About the only thing I've heard him say is that he will make Republicans start acting bipartisan again (which is enough for me to doubt his mental stability).

Often wrong but never in doubt wrote:

You'll see the same dynamic if TRUMP is the REPUBLICAN nominee. Old, out of touch, bad record, STUIPD campaigner. He IS very unpopular BEFORE the time of the general. He WON'T win.

FIXED that for you.

Biden is the one with the most relevant experience. He has worked in government for most of his adult life, serving in congress since age 30, and as vice president under Obama. Biden also has far more foreign policy experience than anyone else in the field. He has always been one of the foremost foreign policy experts in the Democratic party.

While in congress, he always had a reputation for being the least-wealthy senator. He never seemed to be interested in leveraging his office to make money.

I've always admired Biden and even supported his candidacy over all others in 2008. This time around, he's not my first choice because I think we need more extensive changes than Biden would give us.

But if you are looking for a strong case as to why he should be elected, there you have it. Biden is the safe choice if you just want someone who will get the country back to normal again.

The other serious candidates are either too liberal or would get wedged by identity politics.

I liked Beto but he doesn't seem ready for the big stage. I like Klobuchar but no one knows who she is.

The GOP can run all day on their religious and hard alt right base and win with only a handful of moderates, small business owners and CEOs. The Dems can't do the same with their smaller liberal and alt left base.

The base of the GOP is larger and always more motivated than the base of the Dems and thus the Dems are better served by courting the middle. History has shown this to be true.

Alan

this, this, this, a thousand times. The lefties talk about passion and need for wild change...that's not where the Dem electorate is at. Not even close. The Dem electorate wants a return to normal, reliable government and doesn't want to keep upturning the apple cart like with bernie and warren. They want Biden.

I'm going to save the below and refer to it around a thousand times, so get ready. 72-25. Stop listening only to the loudest voices, warren and bernie people.

Fox News poll:

By a 74-23 percent margin, (Democrats) prioritize nominating a candidate who will “unite Americans around shared beliefs” over “fight against extreme right-wing beliefs.”

They also prefer, by a 72-25 percent margin, their nominee provide “steady, reliable leadership” rather than “a bold, new agenda.”

agip wrote:

this, this, this, a thousand times. The lefties talk about passion and need for wild change...that's not where the Dem electorate is at. Not even close. The Dem electorate wants a return to normal, reliable government and doesn't want to keep upturning the apple cart like with bernie and warren. They want Biden.

I'm going to save the below and refer to it around a thousand times, so get ready. 72-25. Stop listening only to the loudest voices, warren and bernie people.

Fox News poll:

By a 74-23 percent margin, (Democrats) prioritize nominating a candidate who will “unite Americans around shared beliefs” over “fight against extreme right-wing beliefs.”

They also prefer, by a 72-25 percent margin, their nominee provide “steady, reliable leadership” rather than “a bold, new agenda.”

All but the extremes on both sides (Trump's base and the Dem Progressives) would prefer a return to some level of normalcy. I don't think there's a chance a jump towards the Progressive left at this point. A more centrist point of view is likely preferred but a significant majority of the electorate but the messages are being controlled by the boobs on both sides to the extreme.

This is why Biden for the Dems is the most serious threat to Trump. He'll be the "normal" candidate which will garner all Democrate even if he isn't inspiring to get them to the polls just because it is him. The anti Trump angle will do that. He also may garner enough centrist Republicans to make the election not close and I think this may be what is happening in polling right now. It's too early to lean on that polling as anything significant.

However, longer term what the Republican Party has to concern themselves with is does the younger generation(s) move to more Progressive left thinking....which anecdotally to me seems to be a possibility....as the extreme right Trump base either dies off or becomes aware that they've been played for fools. What Trump has done is create a backlash against him and those who support him with a much better chance that the backlash has more of an anchor than a lasting Trump base does.

yeah, mostly agree. Except demographic change is glacial.

I'd add that much of what powered the trump 16 voters were people saying 'hold on, I really don't want to hear 24/7 about campus liberal pieties, rainbows, transgender bathrooms, socialist talk.' And that group of Trump voters, who are mostly disgusted with POTUS, will move over to Biden. Because it's clear biden won't be a nutty lefty like AOC, Warren. Bernie, who speak directly to campus kids and not so many others.

So, to summarize Flagpole's typical nonsensical post, he REALLY likes Eliz Warren, he REALLY LIKES Kamala Harris, and he REALLY likes Mayor Pete. He REALLY likes any Democrat candidate because HE REALLY HATES Trump with a passion never seen here.

Sally Vix wrote:

So, to summarize ...

Your trolling is getting more, and more, pathetic.

Trumpers should be proud of their dear leader’s clean business dealings

Golan Heights: Israel unveils 'Trump Heights' settlement

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-48656431

trumperslovetogethosed wrote:

Trumpers should be proud of their dear leader’s clean business dealings

Golan Heights: Israel unveils 'Trump Heights' settlement

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-48656431

Bernie leads Trump by 9 points. Does ANYONE really believe that Bernie Sanders would annihilate Trump by 9 points?

This thread seems to be dying. Maybe the "What about Hillary" crowd has moved on to threads about running. Anyway, the transcript of Trump's conversation with George Stephanopoulos is interesting:

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/transcript-abc-news-george-stephanopoulos-exclusive-interview-president/story?id=63749144

My takes are:

1) Trump is really angry; probably to an unhealthy degree, both mentally and physically.

2) His brain is programmed to discuss the 2016 election, Mueller, the angry democrats, the democrat candidates, Hilary and the 33,000 e-mails, John McCain, the depleted military, the VA, suppression polls, no collusion, how he's accomplished more than any president and,of course, the dishonest media. These topics are constantly inserted into answers to unrelated questions. It's similar to when Rubio had his meltdown during the debates.

3) When confronted with questions such as whether he really believes pollsters are conspiring against him, if it's OK to constantly badmouth Americans while praising Kim and why wouldn't the people conspiring against him release something before the election, he just ignores them. During the interview Trump constantly talked over Stephanopolis.

4) Several times he told Stephanopolis to read the Mueller Report even though Stephanopolis told him he read every page.

Stephanopolis really did try to ask some good questions, but with Trump it's fruitless.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

This thread seems to be dying. Maybe the "What about Hillary" crowd has moved on to threads about running. Anyway, the transcript of Trump's conversation with George Stephanopoulos is interesting:

The Trumpers have left because they see the writing on the wall and they don't want to face the I Told You So that will be levied by me onto them.

Trump is a serial liar and a criminal.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.