Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Flagpole wrote:

jesseriley wrote:

I remember Bernie said he didn’t believe all trumpers were horrible people, but now that they’ve been whittled down, I wonder.

A lot of them are horrible people. There are two types of Trump supporters left (non-elected officials):

1) JUST stupid.

2) Racist.

Racist people are always horrible. Stupid people can be either horrible or not. Sometimes a non-horrible stupid person does things that are horrible or backs things that are horrible just because they are stupid, BUT, there are stupid people who are definitely ALSO horrible people.

That is not true. There are many who benefit from Trump's policies. Some are his friends and relatives. Others are businessmen and crooks. None of these are necessarily stupid or racist. Greedy and amoral will do.

P wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

A lot of them are horrible people. There are two types of Trump supporters left (non-elected officials):

1) JUST stupid.

2) Racist.

Racist people are always horrible. Stupid people can be either horrible or not. Sometimes a non-horrible stupid person does things that are horrible or backs things that are horrible just because they are stupid, BUT, there are stupid people who are definitely ALSO horrible people.

That is not true. There are many who benefit from Trump's policies. Some are his friends and relatives. Others are businessmen and crooks. None of these are necessarily stupid or racist. Greedy and amoral will do.

Outliers that statistically make up such a small percentage of voters that I have discounted the amoral and greedy. Technically you are right, but there are probably as many people who vote for Trump because they like the word "Trump" as there are who are truly amoral people who vote for him. Truly amoral people are tough to find. Trump is one.

And . . .here we go. War with Iran is being set up by Trump and friends to ensure reelection, massive profits, etc.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/oil-tankers-hit-fresh-attack-082513392.html

Here we go again wrote:

And . . .here we go. War with Iran is being set up by Trump and friends to ensure reelection, massive profits, etc.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/oil-tankers-hit-fresh-attack-082513392.html

The American people don't want another oil war.

We need to stop using the stuff. Just leave it in the ground!!!

Here we go again wrote:

And . . .here we go. War with Iran is being set up by Trump and friends to ensure reelection, massive profits, etc.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/oil-tankers-hit-fresh-attack-082513392.html

I wonder how many women and children will ultimately be killed this time. Probably a hundred thousand or more, like in Iraq.

Fat hurts wrote:

Here we go again wrote:

And . . .here we go. War with Iran is being set up by Trump and friends to ensure reelection, massive profits, etc.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/oil-tankers-hit-fresh-attack-082513392.html

The American people don't want another oil war.

We need to stop using the stuff. Just leave it in the ground!!!

The American people are stupid. They will be easily led to believe that Iran is the aggressor and a danger to the US and that it is the patriotic duty of all Americans to rally around the president.

"Patriotism is the last refuge to which a scoundrel turns." - Samuel Johnson

Flagpole wrote:

P wrote:

That is not true. There are many who benefit from Trump's policies. Some are his friends and relatives. Others are businessmen and crooks. None of these are necessarily stupid or racist. Greedy and amoral will do.

Outliers that statistically make up such a small percentage of voters that I have discounted the amoral and greedy. Technically you are right, but there are probably as many people who vote for Trump because they like the word "Trump" as there are who are truly amoral people who vote for him. Truly amoral people are tough to find. Trump is one.

we should always keep in mind that tens of millions of people are one-issue voters - on abortion. Those who voted for Trump and still support Trump based on abortion are not amoral or evil or greedy.

It's beyond sickening wrote:

Here we go again wrote:

And . . .here we go. War with Iran is being set up by Trump and friends to ensure reelection, massive profits, etc.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/oil-tankers-hit-fresh-attack-082513392.html

I wonder how many women and children will ultimately be killed this time. Probably a hundred thousand or more, like in Iraq.

Place your bets on the bombs being made in Saudi Arabia and using the US classified bomb-guidance technology that Trump gave to the Saudis via his emergency declaration related to better arming the Saudis. Besides the loads of money Trump, particularly Jared and favorite daughter Ivanka, are making from Saudi Arabia, Trump get to be powerfully presidential by leading the nation into a war against Iran and all the evil Mooselims who live there.

'Merican bomb tech wrote:

It's beyond sickening wrote:

I wonder how many women and children will ultimately be killed this time. Probably a hundred thousand or more, like in Iraq.

Place your bets on the bombs being made in Saudi Arabia and using the US classified bomb-guidance technology that Trump gave to the Saudis via his emergency declaration related to better arming the Saudis. Besides the loads of money Trump, particularly Jared and favorite daughter Ivanka, are making from Saudi Arabia, Trump get to be powerfully presidential by leading the nation into a war against Iran and all the evil Mooselims who live there.

not buying that - odds are it's Iran or an Iranian proxy. Or just another batcarp crazy muslim band of religious crazies.

Iran wants instability, iran has been helping rebels, iran is trying to put pressure on the outside world.

Apparently several tankers have been hit by limpit mines, probably by iran or Iranian proxies.

FDR said the problem with capitalism is capitalists; they’re just too greedy. Many of them also profit from wars.

jesseriley wrote:

FDR said the problem with capitalism is capitalists; they’re just too greedy. Many of them also profit from wars.

My favorite such quote is from Lenin (probably):

The Capitalists Will Sell Us The Rope With Which We Will Hang Them

It's true that capitalism, when not matched with an essentially moral nation, will kill itself. We see that in the opiod crisis, the environmental disasters, $50,000 SUVs, video games, TV, addictive message boards, free porn. These things are all bad and from capitalism. If a capitalist nation wants these things badly enough, that nation doesn't have a moral backbone, it will commit suicide.

Of course, capitalism also brings prosperity unimaginable to previous generations. But it's a balancing act.

jesseriley wrote:

FDR said the problem with capitalism is capitalists; they’re just too greedy. Many of them also profit from wars.

Which economic system would you recommend over capitalism? (This outta be interesting!)

agip wrote:

'Merican bomb tech wrote:

Place your bets on the bombs being made in Saudi Arabia and using the US classified bomb-guidance technology that Trump gave to the Saudis via his emergency declaration related to better arming the Saudis. Besides the loads of money Trump, particularly Jared and favorite daughter Ivanka, are making from Saudi Arabia, Trump get to be powerfully presidential by leading the nation into a war against Iran and all the evil Mooselims who live there.

not buying that - odds are it's Iran or an Iranian proxy. Or just another batcarp crazy muslim band of religious crazies.

Iran wants instability, iran has been helping rebels, iran is trying to put pressure on the outside world.

Apparently several tankers have been hit by limpit mines, probably by iran or Iranian proxies.

You are wrong to assume it is Iran. They do not have the guidance technology to make such missile strikes as was done on the tankers. One shot. Direct hit. The oil tankers were damaged but not destroyed on strike. Top-notch guidance and targeting--the level of smart bomb tech that only the US has.

Bernie the socialist.

'Merican bomb tech wrote:

agip wrote:

not buying that - odds are it's Iran or an Iranian proxy. Or just another batcarp crazy muslim band of religious crazies.

Iran wants instability, iran has been helping rebels, iran is trying to put pressure on the outside world.

Apparently several tankers have been hit by limpit mines, probably by iran or Iranian proxies.

You are wrong to assume it is Iran. They do not have the guidance technology to make such missile strikes as was done on the tankers. One shot. Direct hit. The oil tankers were damaged but not destroyed on strike. Top-notch guidance and targeting--the level of smart bomb tech that only the US has.

first off, it's not clear what the explosive device was. Could be a missile, or it could a mine. Mines are very simple to build and deploy, obviously.

Second, note that the Iran backed Houthi rebels hit an airport with a cruise missile earlier this month.

agip wrote:

'Merican bomb tech wrote:

You are wrong to assume it is Iran. They do not have the guidance technology to make such missile strikes as was done on the tankers. One shot. Direct hit. The oil tankers were damaged but not destroyed on strike. Top-notch guidance and targeting--the level of smart bomb tech that only the US has.

first off, it's not clear what the explosive device was. Could be a missile, or it could a mine. Mines are very simple to build and deploy, obviously.

Second, note that the Iran backed Houthi rebels hit an airport with a cruise missile earlier this month.

You have swallowed the load of BS Trump is trying to sell. One of the perfectly stricken tankers was headed for Japan. Abe--the Japanese Prime Minister--is in Tehran today to discuss how to deal with US threats.

So, most certainly, Iran perfectly bombed a Japanese ship, while working to negotiate a way out of US sanctions, and meeting with the leader of Japan. Makes perfect sense, but only if you are Trumpette.

'Merican bomb tech wrote:

agip wrote:

first off, it's not clear what the explosive device was. Could be a missile, or it could a mine. Mines are very simple to build and deploy, obviously.

Second, note that the Iran backed Houthi rebels hit an airport with a cruise missile earlier this month.

You have swallowed the load of BS Trump is trying to sell. One of the perfectly stricken tankers was headed for Japan. Abe--the Japanese Prime Minister--is in Tehran today to discuss how to deal with US threats.

So, most certainly, Iran perfectly bombed a Japanese ship, while working to negotiate a way out of US sanctions, and meeting with the leader of Japan. Makes perfect sense, but only if you are Trumpette.

you really should not pretend to be so sure of yourself when dealing with incidents you don't know anything about.

You are guessing, you have no idea what the actual facts are. You are connecting dots, hoping you are right, and you no doubt have an ideological bias that bends your view of the situation on the ground.

But have at it - guessing is fun, and conspiracy theories are even more fun.

agip wrote:

first off, it's not clear what the explosive device was. Could be a missile, or it could a mine. .

Not a chance it was a mine ... maybe a new type with the guidance and smarts to strike aft on the ships. Not a chance it was a missile without a top-notch guidance system.

'Merican bomb tech wrote:

agip wrote:

first off, it's not clear what the explosive device was. Could be a missile, or it could a mine. .

Not a chance it was a mine ... maybe a new type with the guidance and smarts to strike aft on the ships. Not a chance it was a missile without a top-notch guidance system.

did you look at the link I posted from The Drive? Ships have been hit by mines in that area for the last few months.