Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

ilguguil wrote:

Okay, then we end up with MACA = "Make China again."

Come on, you just messed up. Everybody does, no biggie.

. . . unless you try to salvage your mess-up with something ridiculous. Then you look f'ing stupid.

Ok, I will give you agip's answer when he's called out.

"Fair"

A very beautiful and kind girl said that to me once. So every time I use it or hear it I am glad.

agip wrote:

Racket wrote:

They'll tell him to shut the f*ck up and get in line if he ever wants any chance at having a major committee seat in the future. Not that complicated really...

that's a far better answer to the question than my vague meanderings.

mcCarthy has learned his lessons from the master: lie about your opponents over and over. Here he is saying Amash, a libertarian member of the liberty caucus, is not a right winger. Hah. Right wing politics is the worst. It just destroys your concern for the truth.

CNN:

House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy, a staunch Trump ally, questioned whether Amash was a genuine conservative.

"You've got to understand Justin Amash. He's been in Congress quite some time. I think he's asked one question in all the committees that he's been in," McCarthy said on Fox News.

"He votes more with Nancy Pelosi than he ever votes with me. It's a question whether he's even in our Republican conference as a whole."

According to the American Conservative Union, however, Amash had an 88% record of voting with the group's positions last year.

*er, I meant Freedom Caucus*

Racket wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Republicans have to be thinking about what they should do about Amash.

They'll tell him to shut the f*ck up and get in line if he ever wants any chance at having a major committee seat in the future. Not that complicated really...

I also think that is what they will do. But it is an extreme measure that could backfire.

When they did that for Steve King it was because of his extreme white supremacist statements.

This would be only for the crime of agreeing with Democrats. It looks bad and it would cause other Republican members to at least speak out about how Amash was treated. It could become a circus.

Then you have a public debate about whether a member of congress is allowed to speak his mind. Republicans definitely don't want that. It might embolden more Republicans to speak out against Tiny.

Good piece on how Rs are reacting to amash, focusing on mccarthy.

The gist is that they feel they need to destroy all trump opponents in teh GOP before they gain any traction.

Chait's point is that if you destroy amash he will grow more powerful than ever before, running on the libertarian ticket against trump. Amash is from michigan, a state trump must win to be reelected. Amash gets 100,000 votes in MI and Trump loses michigan and the election.

So chait suggests that the GOP not tick off Amash too much.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/05/justin-amash-impeachment-trump-2020-libertarian.html

You need a couple GOP senators speaking up.

Republicans are far from turning on their king at this point.

“The Democratic Party has lost its voice to speak to people that shower after work and not before work,”

Correct!!!!

Democrats lose again!!!!

Thanks for that summary. Rs are indeed in a tough spot. If one or two more R's go "full Amash" there will be big trouble.

agip wrote:

Good piece on how Rs are reacting to amash, focusing on mccarthy.

The gist is that they feel they need to destroy all trump opponents in teh GOP before they gain any traction.

Chait's point is that if you destroy amash he will grow more powerful than ever before, running on the libertarian ticket against trump. Amash is from michigan, a state trump must win to be reelected. Amash gets 100,000 votes in MI and Trump loses michigan and the election.

So chait suggests that the GOP not tick off Amash too much.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/05/justin-amash-impeachment-trump-2020-libertarian.html

agip wrote:

Amash is from michigan, a state trump must win to be reelected. Amash gets 100,000 votes in MI and Trump loses michigan and the election.

So chait suggests that the GOP not tick off Amash too much.

Total wishful thinking. You really think the RNC will just let a state like that settle to a third party candidate? I pray you're joking. They'll put up someone like him (or better yet, a more conservative version of him) and throw so much money at the campaign that people won't even remember the name Amash.

Creepin on ya wrote:

Great Poster wrote:

Great post! Really relevant!

What are you, fvcking retarded?

Trump will eat him alive. Expect montage after montage of creepy Joe molestations during the campaign.

And expect montage after montage of creepy Trump talking about boinking his daughter, his daughter on his lap, grabbing privates, unwanted kissing, ect...

Which candidate currently has well over a dozen sexual assault/harassment accusations and even court cases?

Alan

Runningart2004 wrote:

Creepin on ya wrote:

Trump will eat him alive. Expect montage after montage of creepy Joe molestations during the campaign.

And expect montage after montage of creepy Trump talking about boinking his daughter, his daughter on his lap, grabbing privates, unwanted kissing, ect...

Which candidate currently has well over a dozen sexual assault/harassment accusations and even court cases?

Alan

And expect Republican after Republican to not care if Trump does it but hold it against a Democrat as a reason to not pull the D lever in 2020.

Racket wrote:

agip wrote:

Amash is from michigan, a state trump must win to be reelected. Amash gets 100,000 votes in MI and Trump loses michigan and the election.

So chait suggests that the GOP not tick off Amash too much.

Total wishful thinking. You really think the RNC will just let a state like that settle to a third party candidate? I pray you're joking. They'll put up someone like him (or better yet, a more conservative version of him) and throw so much money at the campaign that people won't even remember the name Amash.

I dont' really understand your point.

If the GOP tosses Amash from the party and Amash gives up his House seat as a result, he could run for President on the libertarian party ticket. That's not in control of the GOP.

Trump won MI by...10,000 votes. Amash is 100% certain to get more than 10,000 votes in MI if he ran for president.

That's Amash's secret weapon that will probably keep the GOP from being too harsh on him.

agip wrote:

Racket wrote:

Total wishful thinking. You really think the RNC will just let a state like that settle to a third party candidate? I pray you're joking. They'll put up someone like him (or better yet, a more conservative version of him) and throw so much money at the campaign that people won't even remember the name Amash.

I dont' really understand your point.

If the GOP tosses Amash from the party and Amash gives up his House seat as a result, he could run for President on the libertarian party ticket. That's not in control of the GOP.

Trump won MI by...10,000 votes. Amash is 100% certain to get more than 10,000 votes in MI if he ran for president.

That's Amash's secret weapon that will probably keep the GOP from being too harsh on him.

How much money do you think some representative no one has heard of before a few days ago can raise without a major backing political party behind him?

Now, how much money do you think a major political party can spend to destroy his name in his home state and promote their own candidate?

Racket wrote:

agip wrote:

I dont' really understand your point.

If the GOP tosses Amash from the party and Amash gives up his House seat as a result, he could run for President on the libertarian party ticket. That's not in control of the GOP.

Trump won MI by...10,000 votes. Amash is 100% certain to get more than 10,000 votes in MI if he ran for president.

That's Amash's secret weapon that will probably keep the GOP from being too harsh on him.

How much money do you think some representative no one has heard of before a few days ago can raise without a major backing political party behind him?

Now, how much money do you think a major political party can spend to destroy his name in his home state and promote their own candidate?

And to add to this, why would he defect from the R party? It's way more profitable to him to just shut up and get in line in exchange for promise of some committee chair seat one day. No reason to commit political suicide like that.

Democrats lose again wrote:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/20/us/politics/trump-voters-job-layoffs.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

“The Democratic Party has lost its voice to speak to people that shower after work and not before work,”

Correct!!!!

Democrats lose again!!!!

I’m not American, I wasn’t born into a Republican family or a Democratic family, I’ve never been to or heard of Youngstown, Ohio.

But what I take from the article is that the Trump supporters are simply prepared to accept less from him then Democrats because he’ll “punch China in the nose” and they’re paranoid about illegal immigrants getting benefits even though they are proud descendants of immigrants and live in a county that is 89 percent white and less than 2 percent Hispanic.

I wish them well, I expect Youngstown won’t flourish anytime soon and Trumps promises of a brighter future won’t happen. I also expect they’ll continue showering after work rather than before.

Racket wrote:

Racket wrote:

How much money do you think some representative no one has heard of before a few days ago can raise without a major backing political party behind him?

Now, how much money do you think a major political party can spend to destroy his name in his home state and promote their own candidate?

And to add to this, why would he defect from the R party? It's way more profitable to him to just shut up and get in line in exchange for promise of some committee chair seat one day. No reason to commit political suicide like that.

I don't think you understand how a guy like Amash thinks. He is that rare thing, a virtuous public servant who won't compromise for personal benefit. He has missed one vote since he was elected. He explains his votes. He is what reps and senators are supposed to be.

I don't think he would trade much of his pride for a committee. Not his style. He'd rather do the right thing and see where it takes him.

Attacking Trump from the right would make him very, very well known and able to spread his message. Far more than being a permanent GOP back-bencher would.

Could the GOP destroy him if he ran as a non-GOPer from the right? I dunno. What examples do you have to show me of that sort of thing?

(I'm not saying Amash would win. He wouldn't. But he could help take MI and WI out of the R win column, that's for sure.)

One of the main reasons middle class and poor people voted for trump is that they wanted to shake things up. It's sort of a synonym for 'punch in the nose.'

I think I understand that but in reality they voted for a New York billionaire who represented one of the two establishment parties, who then assembled the wealthiest administration in history.

And even when a boom hasn’t impacted them they still feel like they’re winning. Makes sense to me.

They serve their politician (Trump) rather than him serving them in return for their support. It’s a strange phenomenon.

Democrats lose again wrote:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/20/us/politics/trump-voters-job-layoffs.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

“The Democratic Party has lost its voice to speak to people that shower after work and not before work,”

Correct!!!!

Democrats lose again!!!!

Virtually all of Ohio is a dumpster fire. Crappy economy, workers fleeing in droves, rust belt hell.