Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Racket wrote:

Monkeys typing wrote:

Flagpole may be a self righteous blowhard, but having some familiarity with the report does seem relevant.

True, but does "some familiarity" equate to "total comprehension of the full report?"

I'd argue it doesn't. I'd also argue it's a slow day at work for me and I have nothing better to do than sabre rattling.

I never said that reading the report equated to "total comprehension of the full report".

I said simply that a person who hasn't read it can't be an authority on it. You CAN'T have any authority if you don't read it, but I didn't say that if you read it that you suddenly ARE an authority on it...at least that was not my intention. I even said that the person shouldn't rely on my comments, thus proving that I believe that just because a person read it that they aren't necessarily to be trusted with what they say about it.

shattered dreams wrote:

Promises were not kept wrote:

I live in Pa and manufacturing jobs have not came back here. The same holds true for our neighbors in Ohio. Unless something drastically changes soon I don’t see Trump winning Pennsylvania or Ohio. He made promises that were not kept. Although there are some uneducated rednecks in rural Pa that would vote for Trump no matter what....he has no chance of winning here.

I hate Trump as much as the next guy, but we're seeing A LOT of manufacturing jobs coming back to OH.

(I should know, I'm in manufacturing in OH)

Meh. True that there are more jobs, but only a moderate improvement and in keeping with the trend since 2010. None of it has to do with anything Trump did.

Flagpole wrote:

Racket wrote:

True, but does "some familiarity" equate to "total comprehension of the full report?"

I'd argue it doesn't. I'd also argue it's a slow day at work for me and I have nothing better to do than sabre rattling.

I never said that reading the report equated to "total comprehension of the full report".

I said simply that a person who hasn't read it can't be an authority on it. You CAN'T have any authority if you don't read it, but I didn't say that if you read it that you suddenly ARE an authority on it...at least that was not my intention. I even said that the person shouldn't rely on my comments, thus proving that I believe that just because a person read it that they aren't necessarily to be trusted with what they say about it.

I think two things are happening:

1. Trump supporters are assuming people are just citing CNN headlines and CNN entertainment news programs which can lack context and be biased.....like virtually any entertainment news source.

2. Trump detractors are quoting the Mueller Report as gospel when it’s simply a collection of evidence and evidence does not equal guilt. Nothing has been adjudicated.

If the glove does not fit you must acquit....

Alan

Speaking of reports, poor little Putin reported his fake outrage that Butina is in prison for 18 months. I remember when Russian spies were tougher & smarter! Boo hoo, bee-yotch!

I agree with your assessment.

As I have said and continue to maintain, anyone (not an elected official) who continues to support Trump is either JUST stupid or also racist. Elected officials who support Trump CAN be just stupid or also racist, but they can also just have zero integrity and believe that supporting Trump will help them stay in office.

Is the "Cheif Hostage Negotiator, USA!" one of Trump's imaginary friends? Also, does Trump have the only smartphone in the U.S. without spellcheck?

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) Tweeted:

“President Donald J. Trump is the greatest hostage negotiator that I know of in the history of the United States. 20 hostages, many in impossible circumstances, have been released in last two years. No money was paid.” Cheif Hostage Negotiator, USA!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1121738863486095360?s=17

Flagpole wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

I think two things are happening:

1. Trump supporters are assuming people are just citing CNN headlines and CNN entertainment news programs which can lack context and be biased.....like virtually any entertainment news source.

2. Trump detractors are quoting the Mueller Report as gospel when it’s simply a collection of evidence and evidence does not equal guilt. Nothing has been adjudicated.

If the glove does not fit you must acquit....

Alan

I agree with your assessment.

As I have said and continue to maintain, anyone (not an elected official) who continues to support Trump is either JUST stupid or also racist. Elected officials who support Trump CAN be just stupid or also racist, but they can also just have zero integrity and believe that supporting Trump will help them stay in office.

Nope. A political base will always stay on a burning ship. They did it with Nixon, they will do it with Trump. The % has varied over time but the non-changing base I believe is somewhere between 30-35% to the right and 30-35% to the left. The candidate could re-enact Caligula in a children’s orphanage and the base will still support that candidate because he/she isn’t the opposing candidate.

I am surprised that Fox News is starting to splinter. Not the big names like VP Hannity but some are growing a conscience. I think they see the writing on the walls. I remember how they basically said Trump was a joke....until he wasn’t....then they were forced to go all in. The river card is being delt and many are folding.

Alan

Nixon had a higher approval rating than Trump before it went south. Nixon won way more convincingly than Trump did. Trump is not only a serial liar and a criminal, but he's a loon.

For those who didn't know...

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Alan gave me the idea to look through this website. Amazing stuff, that shows how hard it will be for spanky to win. Approval ratings for him have collapsed in key states. Supportes of the naked guy who likes being spanked by porn stars will have to spend a fortune in many, many places.

Here's a sample of key states and how approval ratings have fallen. First number is at the inauguraation, second is now.

WI: +6 to -12

MI: +7 tp -12

PA: +10 to -7

AZ: +19 tp -6

FL: +22 tp -2

NV +10 to -10

FL: +22 to -2

even OH: +14 to -5

Sure, these are not votes, and people will hold their nose to vote for the R even if he is unpopular. But geez, I'd hate being a Spankist strategist looking at that map. American truly hates this president.

Interesting analysis. Politicians who get beaten still get a fat pension, but Fox has to stay relevant & make money. Perhaps that’s why they have to bail earlier.

Just a reminder, the chubby guy from Ohio has TDS and is always wrong with his predictions:

Mueller never

SDNY never

http://www.graphic-buffet.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Character_Clown-example.jpg

-pole forever

KAG2020

Twenty states are planning on blocking Trump from appearing on the 2020 ballot

. . . . because of his refusal to cooperate with Congressional oversight.

https://www.salon.com/2019/04/26/blue-states-move-to-block-donald-trump-from-2020-ballot/

agip wrote:

Alan gave me the idea to look through this website. Amazing stuff, that shows how hard it will be for spanky to win. Approval ratings for him have collapsed in key states. Supportes of the naked guy who likes being spanked by porn stars will have to spend a fortune in many, many places.

Here's a sample of key states and how approval ratings have fallen. First number is at the inauguraation, second is now.

WI: +6 to -12

MI: +7 tp -12

PA: +10 to -7

AZ: +19 tp -6

FL: +22 tp -2

NV +10 to -10

FL: +22 to -2

even OH: +14 to -5

Sure, these are not votes, and people will hold their nose to vote for the R even if he is unpopular. But geez, I'd hate being a Spankist strategist looking at that map. American truly hates this president.

Yep, been pointing to this for a long time. Even if you correct for standard polling error (typically 3-4%) he’s still under water in WI and MI. He’s had about a 20% swing in places he can’t stand to have a 20% swing.

The electorate is changing day by day. We are getting browner and younger. Previous Republican candidates have accepted this and have attempted to court these voters in the past. Trump has not. He’s taken the party back at least two decades.

If he does just as well across all demographics in 2020 as he did in 2016 HE WILL LOSE because of the changing demographics state to state.

Places like AZ, NV and even TX are changing at a faster rate. The west is becoming increasingly blue.

If Beto is the candidate he will flip TX, NV and AZ. Trump may be left with only the South and the “Nothing but farms and dirt” states in the Midwest. I would even question GA and NC as their margin was 5% or less in 2016.

So let’s assume JUST a 3% swing to the left....since he won with 46% and his high mark for recent approval has been a consistent 43%;

Of course he loses WI, PA, MI....

He also loses: NC, AZ, FL and Nebraska 2.

I think TX will be closer regardless of the candidate. It will move to within 5%.

He’s an idiotic politician, keeps shooting himself in the foot, keeps talking about things that dont help him vs things that do like the economy. If he would stop tweeting about Robert E Lee, Immigration, or the Mueller Coup attempt and just tweet about the economy his approval would skyrocket.....until the inevitable slowdown.

Alan

Texas is fast swinging to Democrats. A lot of the job growth Texas has is because of government tax-breaks to companies to relocate there. A lot of people are relocating there, and they tend to be more democrat and swing voters than straight-line republicans. Once that swing occurs, Texas won't swing back the other way. Texas should have discouraged relocation to the state, but it is far too late to reverse that now.

Even the liberal Bill Maher is mocking pencil-neck Adam Schiff over his obsession with Trump and Russia: “But this was our big gun. Now it just looks like you’re stalking him”

Schiff is a stalker.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bill-maher-accuses-democratic-rep-adam-schiff-of-stalking-trump-on-hbos-real-time

Mdf wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Will you still vote for him if he chickens out?

Meh. Debates are pointless. Rambling, canned non-answers and candidates only seeking that gotcha sound bite moment.

Nothing substantive comes from presidential debates.

I see. So we are already trying out the excuses for when he chickens out. Got it.

Hey Pookie,

Only one 2020 candidate:

Advocated for segregated schools

Gave a eulogy for KKK Grand Wizard

Authored the horrific Clinton Crime Bill, which targeted blacks

And gropes relentlessly

That's right,, it's Creepy Uncle Joe

Fat hurts wrote:

Mdf wrote:

Meh. Debates are pointless. Rambling, canned non-answers and candidates only seeking that gotcha sound bite moment.

Nothing substantive comes from presidential debates.

I see. So we are already trying out the excuses for when he chickens out. Got it.

Trump will refuse to do any debates. He lost all three to Hillary. So, expect him to have exclusive debates with Sean Hannity were they both agree with everything the other has to say.