Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

I do hope that Tiny starts calling him that. It wouldn't surprise me a bit and it would backfire bigly.

It's looking like Mayor Pete is the real Beto. I only caught a few minutes of his announcement speech, but it was the best I've heard since Obama. Clearly, the guy is a rare political talent.

Clearly, you're wildly out of touch with reality. Mayor Buttplug will not be your dem nominee.

Go crawl back under your double wide.

Alan

Runningart2004 wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Clearly, you're wildly out of touch with reality. Mayor Buttplug will not be your dem nominee.

Go crawl back under your double wide.

Alan

We cant 'ford no double wide. Rigged has a hole he dig undr our old single wide trailer. He play in it most of the time. He don't bother me. I dont bother him.

-- Rigged's Mom

Runningart2004 wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Clearly, you're wildly out of touch with reality. Mayor Buttplug will not be your dem nominee.

So you think it’s ok to make fun of homosexuals? You don’t think a person should be president just because he’s a homosexual?

There’s a word for that.

Alan

Snowflakes, dont be offended. It's all equal opportunity name calling here.

I tell donny boy that all the time! Precious Snowflake prez, don’t worry if most people call you a racist or a liar or a psycho, they’re just being honest!

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

So you think it’s ok to make fun of homosexuals? You don’t think a person should be president just because he’s a homosexual?

There’s a word for that.

Alan

Snowflakes, dont be offended. It's all equal opportunity name calling here.

What are you like 12? Nah, you’re some mid 40s white male hiding his racism and homophobia behind equal opportunity name calling and a big black pickup truck.

Alan

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Mayor Pete Buttplug

that's a new low even for you. homophobe.

Fat hurts wrote:

Bernie has the simplest possible healthcare pitch. Just give everyone the same plan that seniors have been loving for decades.

I like Bernie's plan.

But it can't be done.

When they wrote the ACA, it initially had a public option.

That is, there was going to be a non-profit insurance company run by the federal government.

You could opt to buy from a nationwide plan.

They couldn't get 60 votes for it even with 60 Democrat senators so they had to settle for only having the exchanges of private insurance companies.

There is no chance that medicare for all would pass, especially since it would need some Republican votes.

But if they did manage to pass something like it, it would take a decade or so to be implemented while major insurance companies closed down and medicare expanded maybe by lowering the age to 60 and covering 18-26 year olds or something.

The health insurance industry generates about $850 billion a year in revenues.

You can't switch that to the federal government overnight.

Bernie campaigning on Medicare for all (which I love) is like Trump campaigning on the wall or all of the other things he had no chance of accomplishing.

But the trick is to promise things to get votes. Delivering on the promises does not matter, I guess.

this is an other example of the problem of having a slimeball criminal in the WH.

POTUS behaved badly, his people were interviewed by investigators, his people told the truth, and now they are being led to the slaughter because they will likely be found out by Trump, via the Mueller report.

If we elect a bad person, this sort of problem will keep popping up. this is why impeachment does not require a crime. The guy is so maximally corrosive.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/white-house-officials-concerned-about-being-exposed-mueller-report-n994861

The compromise would be to allow Medicare in the exchanges and allow companies to choose Medicare as their health care provider.

We almost got a "public option" like this when Obamacare was created. I think it will pass in 2021 as long as Democrats do well in the election.

agip wrote:

this is an other example of the problem of having a slimeball criminal in the WH.

POTUS behaved badly, his people were interviewed by investigators, his people told the truth, and now they are being led to the slaughter because they will likely be found out by Trump, via the Mueller report.

If we elect a bad person, this sort of problem will keep popping up. this is why impeachment does not require a crime. The guy is so maximally corrosive.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/white-house-officials-concerned-about-being-exposed-mueller-report-n994861

If you are worried about losing your job because you told the truth then that job is not worth having.

What a shame they can’t commit crimes & get paid for it. Maybe they should be “worried” about their country more than their job.

would that create an imbalance? Where all the sick people choose Medicare? Seems like it would, although this stuff is so complicated and unpredictable.

Fat hurts wrote:

The compromise would be to allow Medicare in the exchanges and allow companies to choose Medicare as their health care provider.

We almost got a "public option" like this when Obamacare was created. I think it will pass in 2021 as long as Democrats do well in the election.

I don't think it will pass.

First of all, it's still a stretch for Democrats to pick up 3 senators plus the VP to get a Senate majority.

Second, to get a major legislation change like that, you need 60 senators. No way.

(unless Mitch listens to Trump and goes nuclear on all legislation and it benefits Democrats later)

And finally, even Democrat senators are going to get very healthy campaign donations from insurance company lobbyists with a wink to not pass the bill you just mentioned.

Too much money involved.

I agree with how you wrote that. I'm just a bit cynical after following Washington politics the past few administrations.

They can't pass simple gun law that 90% of Americans approve of like not allowing people on a terrorists watch list to buy guns.

L L wrote:

First of all, it's still a stretch for Democrats to pick up 3 senators plus the VP to get a Senate majority.

It is actually very likely the Senate swings in the 2020. You need to look at which seats are up for election, and who political options are. It will likely be a 53-55 democrat seat majority. 2022 is the year that majority will shrink. And 2024 is the year which will tell if the Republicans can get control back.

Hard to predict except: people are getting less healthy; and the current system is both ineffective & unaffordable. Change is inevitable, and the votes are there.

runninnnnggg wrote:

L L wrote:

First of all, it's still a stretch for Democrats to pick up 3 senators plus the VP to get a Senate majority.

It is actually very likely the Senate swings in the 2020. You need to look at which seats are up for election, and who political options are. It will likely be a 53-55 democrat seat majority. 2022 is the year that majority will shrink. And 2024 is the year which will tell if the Republicans can get control back.

betting odds are 70/30 that the senate will stay with the Rs. I'd check your assumptions.

One of the most interesting questions is whether the Dems will organize against Bernie. In other words, if he is winning going into Super Tuesday...will the low polling people pull out and throw their support to the Democrat who is best suited to beating Bernie. Or will the Ds stay in it and split the anti-bernie vote, letting him win and likely give trump another four years.

People like booker, amy, gilibrand, maybe even beto will have that choice. The Rs refused to make it early enough and let aa guy win who had what...30% of the vote win.

I think Ds are more civic minded but I don't know.

agip wrote:

runninnnnggg wrote:

It is actually very likely the Senate swings in the 2020. You need to look at which seats are up for election, and who political options are. It will likely be a 53-55 democrat seat majority. 2022 is the year that majority will shrink. And 2024 is the year which will tell if the Republicans can get control back.

betting odds are 70/30 that the senate will stay with the Rs. I'd check your assumptions.

Wall Street also has Trump winning 2020 with same odds

No one knows the “odds.” Bettors, who obviously want to make money with a bookie whereas others may prefer to work, can bet on anything they want. Wall Streeters have been known to gamble as well. Every bankrupt business that sold stock had people who gambled on it.