Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Ciro wrote:

accepted wrote:

Dropping them off means Trump has accepted the asylum seekers live and work in the US.

PS. And Sally, posting as Viva la vida locas, continues referring to asylum seekers as illegals. Sally is an IDIOT.

It's amazing to see his base cheer leading this proposal. If a Democrat President supported dropping off asylum seekers in sanctuary cities Hannity, Carlson and co would have warned the masses that the immigrants would spread throughout the US. But since the right wing media does not question Trump much the obvious has been completed lost on them. I struggle to think of a group so easily manipulated.

Of course it's also possible that Trump needs more people to work at his golf course and hotels.

Exactly right. Trumpers are in full support of accepting thousands of asylum seekers, and migrants, to stay legally, and live and get jobs in the USA. When Trump flips, his mindless and integrity-free base flips with him. Democrats would never blindly let all of those people in. They would have them go through the longtime existing (pre-Trump) review process to make sure the few Bad Hombres would not get in.

Unfortunately trump is not going to jump off a cliff to see how many of his base jump, too. But that is the general idea.

Sally Vix wrote:

Sally, you shithead wrote:

Who is supporting infanticide? NO ONE! You are just regurgitating misinformation you heard somewhere else. Just stop it, Sally/Jamin/DG

The governor of Virginia Ralph Northam supports infanticide. Many Democrats are on board with killing viable babies outside the womb. What say you?

Ed,

Just an FYI, here is the Oxford English definition of infanticide...

An infant is defined as a child from the point of live birth - 1 year old. Medical definition of fetus and infant here...

It should be noted, in medical textbooks there is often a distinction made between neonates (birth to 2 months—ever heard of a NICU?) and an infant (2 months post birth to 1 year) but that may be splitting hairs too much for some of you.

I am not aware of any lib calling to kill infants (properly defined as either a child from live birth to 1 year old or, more correctly, 2 months post live birth and 1 year old). If you are referring to Ralph Northman’s recent comments on abortion—what you are saying is false. Here is what he said....

“Asked on a radio program what happens when a woman is going into labor who desires a third-trimester abortion, Northam noted that this kind of procedure only occurs in cases of severe deformities or nonviable pregnancy. He said that in this scenario, “the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”

Source....

In case you need it, here is a link to the English definition of non-viable.

Here is a link with Northam’s full radio interview—its long but if you listen to what he says you’ll see he never says he thinks it’s okay to kill an infant. To claim he said he was okay with “infanticide” is a lie.

... but here is Trump saying we should specifically target our enemies families which presumably includes innocent children in the age range of an infant.

And here is Jeb Bush saying he’d kill a baby under certain circumstances. Admittedly, he doesn’t specifically say he’d kill a baby if it was an infant or if he’d wait until after its first birthday.

Of course, there is also the fact that the majority of conservatives frequently call for increasing the number of infants born to poor women by restricting access to appropriate family planning options while simultaneously calling for slashing funding to programs that help poor children get adequate access to healthcare, good nutrition, and housing which, of course, all contribute to increased infant mortality in the US.

Stop trying to bring facts into this discussion!!!

L L wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Correct. That's exactly what I'm saying.

So, if an entire party is complicit with a president's crimes, then a president can commit any crimes and the opposing party should let it go even if they have the power to impeach?

If he did a crime that he otherwise would serve time for, the House should impeach.

Leave it to the senate to fail justice.

Yes. If it will hurt our chances of getting rid of him in 2020, then the House should let it go.

The most important task on earth for the next 19 months is getting Tiny out of office. Whatever legal means accomplishes that task most effectively is the guiding principle.

No one is asking you to. You should admit you are wrong when you are wrong, and you are wrong here. You know that a thread wasn't deleted. You then need to either prove that what you say I said is true or admit you are wrong...OR we just will all know you have no integrity.

You are wrong, brother. No shame in that, but you are wrong.[/quote]

Not sure why admitting you backed Avenetti is causing you so much stress. Why even continue to lie about it at this point? He's not running (unless he pulls a Ron Reynolds, of course).

Sally Vix wrote:

Sally, you shithead wrote:

Who is supporting infanticide? NO ONE! You are just regurgitating misinformation you heard somewhere else. Just stop it, Sally/Jamin/DG

The governor of Virginia Ralph Northam supports infanticide. Many Democrats are on board with killing viable babies outside the womb. What say you?

You are lying again. Northam does not support infanticide and you know it. Why do you keep spouting the same old lies over and over?

Red Sanctuary Cities wrote:

Conservatives love hiring migrants because they are less expensive than hiring American employees, and they will do the jobs that American absolutely refuse to do.

The first part of that statement is true. The second part is false.

Americans have historically done the jobs that migrants now do. The problem is that Americans won't do those jobs for slave wages. The migrants are so desperate that they will take any job that keeps them alive.

Fat hurts wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

The governor of Virginia Ralph Northam supports infanticide. Many Democrats are on board with killing viable babies outside the womb. What say you?

You are lying again. Northam does not support infanticide and you know it. Why do you keep spouting the same old lies over and over?

I am NOT lying. Northam said that if a baby survives a botched abortion, i.e., he or she is born alive, the mother and family would decide to provide medical care to the baby or just allow the baby to die. If mom and the family decided they did not want the baby, then the baby would be killed.

Gov. Northam, a Democrat, was asked about the bill in a radio interview on Wednesday, and his response only added to the controversy. Appearing to discuss what would happen if a child was born after a failed attempt at abortion, he said, “the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”

Not So Fast My Friend wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

I don’t admit I’m wrong when I am right.

No one is asking you to. You should admit you are wrong when you are wrong, and you are wrong here. You know that a thread wasn't deleted. You then need to either prove that what you say I said is true or admit you are wrong...OR we just will all know you have no integrity.

You are wrong, brother. No shame in that, but you are wrong.

Not sure why admitting you backed Avenetti is causing you so much stress. Why even continue to lie about it at this point? He's not running (unless he pulls a Ron Reynolds, of course).[/quote]

You are obviously trolling at this point, so this will be my last comment to you under your user name which I'm sure you'll just change.

1) I never lie.

2) I did not back Avenatti for President.

3) You can not prove that I did, because I did not.

4) Not causing me stress...just feel it would be good for your soul to admit you were wrong. And you are wrong.

Fat hurts wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

The governor of Virginia Ralph Northam supports infanticide. Many Democrats are on board with killing viable babies outside the womb. What say you?

You are lying again. Northam does not support infanticide and you know it. Why do you keep spouting the same old lies over and over?

My suggestion is to stop replying to Sally on this topic. I ban the crazy people (after giving them a lot of slack first) which is why I don't respond anymore to some who still post here. Sally has moments of lucidity though so, I do respond to him when his thoughts aren't bonkers. It's a fine line Sally walks though.

Flagpole wrote:

Not So Fast My Friend wrote:

No one is asking you to. You should admit you are wrong when you are wrong, and you are wrong here. You know that a thread wasn't deleted. You then need to either prove that what you say I said is true or admit you are wrong...OR we just will all know you have no integrity.

You are wrong, brother. No shame in that, but you are wrong.

Not sure why admitting you backed Avenetti is causing you so much stress. Why even continue to lie about it at this point? He's not running (unless he pulls a Ron Reynolds, of course).

You are obviously trolling at this point, so this will be my last comment to you under your user name which I'm sure you'll just change.

1) I never lie.

2) I did not back Avenatti for President.

3) You can not prove that I did, because I did not.

4) Not causing me stress...just feel it would be good for your soul to admit you were wrong. And you are wrong.[/quote]

You did back Avenetti for Prez. That's not debatable. It's a fact. You know it is true.

It's interesting that you are so fervent in your denials. Do you think others will think of you unkindly if you admitted it? I'd wager that people think less of you because you are lying about it now.

And you are stressed about it or the lying about it is causing the stress. I can tell by the tone of your posts.

If you don't admit to your lying , it will haunt your conscience. Unless, of course, you are a serial liar (see Trump, Clinton) and lying is part of your character.

Flagpole wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

You are lying again. Northam does not support infanticide and you know it. Why do you keep spouting the same old lies over and over?

My suggestion is to stop replying to Sally on this topic. I ban the crazy people (after giving them a lot of slack first) which is why I don't respond anymore to some who still post here. Sally has moments of lucidity though so, I do respond to him when his thoughts aren't bonkers. It's a fine line Sally walks though.

Flagpole, I am not some nutjob. I posted what I sincerely thought about what Northam had said. I posted exactly what he said. You can claim I am misreading it but I don't think I am.

Sally’s not a nut job, she’s a serial liar supporting a serial liar (who’s a nut job!). She’s a professional troll in that someone’s dumb enough to pay her, but she’s a rank amateur in terms of zero actual ability. But then all trumpers have similar characteristics, based on the ignorant racist who they support. Sell-outs.

jesseriley wrote:

Sally’s not a nut job, she’s a serial liar supporting a serial liar (who’s a nut job!). She’s a professional troll in that someone’s dumb enough to pay her, but she’s a rank amateur in terms of zero actual ability. But then all trumpers have similar characteristics, based on the ignorant racist who they support. Sell-outs.

I am not here to troll. I am here to engage in sincere discussions about politics and related subjects. It really concerns me how so many of you here are all about removing Trump from office. Sure, he is the biggest douche around. He treats ladies like dirt. He is a bombastic fool. But, he was elected fair and square. The American electorate elected him to be president. You Democrats have had your panties in bunches since and have been trying everything possible to reverse the election. Again, I despise Trump but he was the legitimate winner of the last election. Accept that and you will sleep better at night. You can work at defeating him in the next election all you want. I would rather have Pence as president. Trump is a blowhard but I do have to admit I derive some pleasure how much his presidency makes you more and more deranged. It is great entertainment seeing you Liberals having a meltdown every day of his presidency. God bless you and I still love you despite our differences.

Just to add a bit more. Many of you here are polar opposites from me as far as politics but are well-intentioned and intelligent when it comes to politics and other topics. We may not agree on many things but I do respect what you have to offer. I enjoy coming here just to engage in honest discussion. Sometimes what you say drives me a bit batty but I try to understand where you are coming from.

On the whole I found this to be a reasonable post. (But then, I'm not a Democrat . . . )

However, I bolded the one part that might be misleading to some. The Electoral College elected him to be president, not "the American electorate" i.e. the voters, who preferred his main opponent (by the millions).

This does not change the fact that he won fair and square. As they say: Don't hate the player, hate the game.

[As an aside, I'm one of those who think we would be in much deeper fat if Pence were president. We just need to hang in for the next 19 months or so and hope for good news then.]

Nice post.