Take your head out of your arse and you will see the truth instead of trumpland.
Take your head out of your arse and you will see the truth instead of trumpland.
agip wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
I lived in McAllen, Texas for 11 years 1985-1996. The border was porous then and the crime coming across the border was a real problem. I had drug dealing outside my 10 year old daughter’s window one night. The neighbors were illegally importing the Roche date rape drug. Routinely vehicles were stolen by Mexican juveniles and driven back thru the border. If caught they as juveniles they had to be released. To believe this situation has improved since I left would be hard to believe.
numbers of people coming across the border have fallen dramatically since that time. You were at the peak - it's better now, yes.
"Better now?" Are you kidding? Like saying I only have lung cancer now instead of pancreatic cancer. Obama's Homeland Security chief Jeh Johnson has talked about the crisis at the border. 100,000 illegals crossed the border in ONE month. Projections are that 1 million-plus ILLEGALS will illegally cross border over 12 months. Any one who says that is not a crisis is no being truthful.
Release the whole damnn thing minus what has to be redacted. Just release it. But I really don't think the Liberals are being honest here. The FISA warrant and Hillary needs to be investigated as well as McCabe, Rosenstein and all the turncoats in the FBI and DOJ. Not the rank-and-file but the ones at the top who tried to enact a coup.
Flagpole wrote:
Just in case anyone thought Trump's troubles were over...
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Trump WILL finish his first term, something you said was not going to happen. I had thought Biden might be his strongest opponent but Biden is finished now, perhaps due to some on the Democratic side who sabotaged his campaign (though he had not yet announced).
Like a broken record. Is this his new "Real Man" meme?
Flagpole wrote:
Just in case anyone thought Trump's troubles were over...
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
flagpoleforever wrote:
Like a broken record. Is this his new "Real Man" meme?
Flagpole wrote:
Just in case anyone thought Trump's troubles were over...
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
It is not a pretty sight. It is like he is intentionally setting himself up to fail time and time and time again. Again, not a pretty sight.
Sally Vix wrote:
flagpoleforever wrote:
Like a broken record. Is this his new "Real Man" meme?
It is not a pretty sight. It is like he is intentionally setting himself up to fail time and time and time again. Again, not a pretty sight.
These are called Flagpolian Flops.
any doubt that the previous 4 posts were by the same poster has been removed.
you will live to regret calling mccabe and rosenstein turncoats. You can throw that around without proof, but it's deeply, deeply dishonorable for you to do so. And shameful.
Unless some you know...evidence shows up of their treachery. Rather than spankite propaganda, which you love love love to eat up, like good north koreans.
Sally Vix wrote:
agip wrote:
numbers of people coming across the border have fallen dramatically since that time. You were at the peak - it's better now, yes.
"Better now?" Are you kidding? Like saying I only have lung cancer now instead of pancreatic cancer. Obama's Homeland Security chief Jeh Johnson has talked about the crisis at the border. 100,000 illegals crossed the border in ONE month. Projections are that 1 million-plus ILLEGALS will illegally cross border over 12 months. Any one who says that is not a crisis is no being truthful.
These are people. They are not cancer.
The fact that they are crossing illegally is not a crisis.
The fact that they are desperate with no place else to go is a crisis.
Sally Vix wrote:
agip wrote:
numbers of people coming across the border have fallen dramatically since that time. You were at the peak - it's better now, yes.
"Better now?" Are you kidding? Like saying I only have lung cancer now instead of pancreatic cancer. Obama's Homeland Security chief Jeh Johnson has talked about the crisis at the border. 100,000 illegals crossed the border in ONE month. Projections are that 1 million-plus ILLEGALS will illegally cross border over 12 months. Any one who says that is not a crisis is no being truthful.
there is a surge right now yes. but that will fade as these things do. The long term trendlines have been falling downwards for 20 years, and that is not arguable, unless you continue to use north korean levels of propaganda to make points. Which you will, no doubt.
agip wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Release the whole damnn thing minus what has to be redacted. Just release it. But I really don't think the Liberals are being honest here. The FISA warrant and Hillary needs to be investigated as well as McCabe, Rosenstein and all the turncoats in the FBI and DOJ. Not the rank-and-file but the ones at the top who tried to enact a coup.
you will live to regret calling mccabe and rosenstein turncoats. You can throw that around without proof, but it's deeply, deeply dishonorable for you to do so. And shameful.
Unless some you know...evidence shows up of their treachery. Rather than spankite propaganda, which you love love love to eat up, like good north koreans.
Do you know how many people related to Enron Rod Rosenstein ruined? The guy is as bad as they come. YOu guys have been trashing Trump for 2 years but you know NOTHING that is in the Mueller report. NOTHING! So don't tell me to go easy on Rosenstein or McCabe or Brennan or all the others who are trying to oust Trump. No thanks!
Fat hurts wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
"Better now?" Are you kidding? Like saying I only have lung cancer now instead of pancreatic cancer. Obama's Homeland Security chief Jeh Johnson has talked about the crisis at the border. 100,000 illegals crossed the border in ONE month. Projections are that 1 million-plus ILLEGALS will illegally cross border over 12 months. Any one who says that is not a crisis is no being truthful.
These are people. They are not cancer.
The fact that they are crossing illegally is not a crisis.
The fact that they are desperate with no place else to go is a crisis.
Fat Hurts - I am sympathetic to these people. We can't allow everyone in. We can increase aid to countries deeply hurting but typically the despots take it all.
agip wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
"Better now?" Are you kidding? Like saying I only have lung cancer now instead of pancreatic cancer. Obama's Homeland Security chief Jeh Johnson has talked about the crisis at the border. 100,000 illegals crossed the border in ONE month. Projections are that 1 million-plus ILLEGALS will illegally cross border over 12 months. Any one who says that is not a crisis is no being truthful.
there is a surge right now yes. but that will fade as these things do. The long term trendlines have been falling downwards for 20 years, and that is not arguable, unless you continue to use north korean levels of propaganda to make points. Which you will, no doubt.
I typically use facts. Not fake stuff that Liberals use all the time. To say it is not a crisis is to say "I am an idiot." Not some of the people here but in general.
Sally Vix wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Just in case anyone thought Trump's troubles were over...
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Trump WILL finish his first term, something you said was not going to happen. I had thought Biden might be his strongest opponent but Biden is finished now, perhaps due to some on the Democratic side who sabotaged his campaign (though he had not yet announced).
I don’t know about Biden. I mean a few years ago he would be fine. He has no ill intent. He’s simply an old guy who’s always been a hugger, always touchy feely to everyone, men and women. In today’s hyper sensitive culture though it gets blown up.
Going against Trump though? Trump...bragging about walking around backstage at his Teen USA shows being able to catch a glimpse of naked barely legal teens. Grab ‘em by the P. The way he has talked about his daughter in the past? The way he talks about a 10 yr old girl (if she was 10 yrs older maybe I would date her). The multiple harassment and assault lawsuits.
Really?
I honestly think we are too hypersensitive on this issue. It’s steam rolled since #MeToo. Yes, sexual harassment and rape is wrong. Unwanted touching is wrong. But where is the line? What is ok?
You have many people who greet others with a hug, they are affectionate people. Is that wrong? Yea it’s a little weird and I’ve been greeted by “huggers” before and yeah it’s weird if you’re an introvert.
So I dunno. I don’t see his affectionate nature as being a negative. His way of handling it is wrong though.
Alan
A few pages back, you said that Trump is going to lose 2020 in a landslide. I'm calling it right now, this is very much Flagpolian Flop territory. I will mark this post for future reference.
I agree wholeheartedly with what you say. You can't even hug a man or a woman anymore without fears of reprisals.
Sally Vix wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
These are people. They are not cancer.
The fact that they are crossing illegally is not a crisis.
The fact that they are desperate with no place else to go is a crisis.
Fat Hurts - I am sympathetic to these people. We can't allow everyone in. We can increase aid to countries deeply hurting but typically the despots take it all.
Then I think you would agree that you should stop comparing them to cancer.
We need a humane approach instead of Tiny's "grumpy old man" approach.
As I have said before, a true leader would work together with Mexico and the affected nations to solve the problem. It's not easy, but this is why you need to put competent people in the government. This is why you want real experts to deal with these issues instead of corrupt political appointees with no experience.
Tiny's inability to deal with this issue is just one more example of why he is unfit to be president.
Sally Vix wrote:
agip wrote:
you will live to regret calling mccabe and rosenstein turncoats. You can throw that around without proof, but it's deeply, deeply dishonorable for you to do so. And shameful.
Unless some you know...evidence shows up of their treachery. Rather than spankite propaganda, which you love love love to eat up, like good north koreans.
Do you know how many people related to Enron Rod Rosenstein ruined? The guy is as bad as they come. YOu guys have been trashing Trump for 2 years but you know NOTHING that is in the Mueller report. NOTHING! So don't tell me to go easy on Rosenstein or McCabe or Brennan or all the others who are trying to oust Trump. No thanks!
what does that have to do with being a 'turncoat?' which implies traitorous behavior?
As usual, you make a spankite propaganda-based false claim, then when confronted you move the goalposts or divert.
Calling FBI agents and DOJ employees turncoats is shameful, unless you have some proof.
Sally Vix wrote:
Release the whole damnn thing minus what has to be redacted. Just release it. But I really don't think the Liberals are being honest here. The FISA warrant and Hillary needs to be investigated as well as McCabe, Rosenstein and all the turncoats in the FBI and DOJ. Not the rank-and-file but the ones at the top who tried to enact a coup.
So, who does the redacting?
It can't be Barr because he was hired by the person to be investigated specifically to oversee the investigation.
It would have to be Rosenstein or Mueller that redact the report from pending cases or classified information and release that for public consumption.
There should be a bipartisan Congressional committee that can view the non redacted version.
Like the group that heard Cohen's non public testimony.
I don't see how liberals have been stopping the DOJ from investigating the FISA warrant and more Hillary investigations.