Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Runningart2004 wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Just a reminder to the libs who are demanding an unredacted Mueller report:

"Federal law bars the release of material presented to a grand jury, including testimony and evidence, to protect the rights of the accused."

Mueller is helping Barr (his friend of 30 years) to redact his report. If he was unhappy with Barr's summary, I'm sure he would have said so by now.

Don't be collusion truthers.

The Starr Report included grand jury testimony.

Alan

Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, is the leading Democrat demanding the release of the Mueller Report “in its entirety” without redactions.

His committee is planning to subpoena the Justice Department for the full report.

But back in 1998, as a member of the same committee, he vociferously opposed the release of the full Starr Report, saying that “as a matter of decency and protecting people’s privacy rights, people who may be totally innocent third parties, what must not be released at all.”

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Then, the president was Bill Clinton. Now, it is a Republican, Donald Trump.

Ken Starr, the independent counsel investigating then-President Bill Clinton, delivered his report to Congress on Sept. 9, 1998. That night, Nadler went on Charlie Rose's show to push back against the Republican demand that the voluminous report should be made public. “It’s grand jury material. It represents statements which may or may not be true by various witnesses," Nadler said. "Salacious material. All kinds of material that it would be unfair to release,”

What Nadler, 71, said in 1998 echoes what Attorney General William Barr told Congress last week. Barr, 68, wrote that he might redact grand jury testimony, information related to ongoing investigations, sensitive or classified information, and “information that would unduly infringe on the personal privacy and reputational interests of peripheral third parties” from the report that he provides to Congress and the public.

In a New York Times op-ed Monday, Nadler wrote: “We — the members of the Judiciary Committee, the House of Representatives, and the entire American public — are still waiting to see that report… We have an obligation to read the full report, and the Department of Justice has an obligation to provide it, in its entirely, without delay.”

Twenty-one years ago, Nadler said that the Starr Report was inherently biased against Clinton: “'We should always remember this is a prosecutor's report — by its nature it's a one-sided report.” He complained about Clinton not being allowed to get a sneak peak at the Starr Report before it was made public: “The President is asking for two days. The Republicans say no.”

In October 1998, Nadler attacked the legitimacy of the independent counsel investigation: “Starr thinks he is going to be investigating things in four years … I find that astonishing and appalling. Is this a permanent inquisition against the president?” The language Nadler used was reminiscent of the “witch hunt” language used by Trump in reference to Mueller’s investigation.

In a February 1999 article in the New York Times, Nadler called the Starr Report and impeachment efforts by Republicans a “partisan coup d'etat.” He said he didn’t think Clinton had obstructed justice and that even if he had, it would not be an impeachable offense. “An impeachable offense is an abuse of Presidential power designed to or with the effect of undermining the structure or function of government, or undermining constitutional liberties,” Nadler said.

Last month, before Mueller had finished his investigation, Nadler was already claiming that “it’s very clear that the president obstructed justice.” He said impeachment was a possibility: "We have to do the investigations and get all this … We do not now have the evidence all sorted out to do an impeachment … Before you impeach somebody, you have to persuade the American public that it ought to happen.”

Special counsel Mueller declined to charge anyone associated with the Trump campaign of coordination with the Russians, but did not reach a decision on obstruction. Attorney General Barr and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein concluded that Trump had not obstructed justice.

Courtesy of the Washington Examiner I believe.

Courtesy of Russia ??, you seem uncomfortable with a Constitution. Don’t blame us.

Howard Schultz gives a commanding and very presidential performance in town hall.

He’ll get at least 30% of the vote.

I lived in McAllen, Texas for 11 years 1985-1996. The border was porous then and the crime coming across the border was a real problem. I had drug dealing outside my 10 year old daughter’s window one night. The neighbors were illegally importing the Roche date rape drug. Routinely vehicles were stolen by Mexican juveniles and driven back thru the border. If caught they as juveniles they had to be released. To believe this situation has improved since I left would be hard to believe.

Mueller ended his investigation having indicted ZERO Americans for colluding with Russia to influence the 2016 election. Then he proactively rejected that "members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government."

Get this through your thick TDS infected skulls.

Mueller never

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Ghost of Igloi wrote:

I lived in McAllen, Texas for 11 years 1985-1996. The border was porous then and the crime coming across the border was a real problem. I had drug dealing outside my 10 year old daughter’s window one night. The neighbors were illegally importing the Roche date rape drug. Routinely vehicles were stolen by Mexican juveniles and driven back thru the border. If caught they as juveniles they had to be released. To believe this situation has improved since I left would be hard to believe.

numbers of people coming across the border have fallen dramatically since that time. You were at the peak - it's better now, yes.

agip wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

I lived in McAllen, Texas for 11 years 1985-1996. The border was porous then and the crime coming across the border was a real problem. I had drug dealing outside my 10 year old daughter’s window one night. The neighbors were illegally importing the Roche date rape drug. Routinely vehicles were stolen by Mexican juveniles and driven back thru the border. If caught they as juveniles they had to be released. To believe this situation has improved since I left would be hard to believe.

numbers of people coming across the border have fallen dramatically since that time. You were at the peak - it's better now, yes.

and just in general, crime has fallen everywhere - that late 80s -to early 90s period was the all time crime peak. it's been falling ever since, dramatically and substantially.

agip wrote:

agip wrote:

numbers of people coming across the border have fallen dramatically since that time. You were at the peak - it's better now, yes.

and just in general, crime has fallen everywhere - that late 80s -to early 90s period was the all time crime peak. it's been falling ever since, dramatically and substantially.

Several of my former student athletes are US Border Patrol Agents and largely have a different opinion.

agip wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

I lived in McAllen, Texas for 11 years 1985-1996. The border was porous then and the crime coming across the border was a real problem. I had drug dealing outside my 10 year old daughter’s window one night. The neighbors were illegally importing the Roche date rape drug. Routinely vehicles were stolen by Mexican juveniles and driven back thru the border. If caught they as juveniles they had to be released. To believe this situation has improved since I left would be hard to believe.

numbers of people coming across the border have fallen dramatically since that time. You were at the peak - it's better now, yes.

LOL! What? Get out of fantasy land.

Brandon Judd, president of the National Border Patrol Council, said Tuesday that the influx of migrants currently flooding over the southern border represents the “worst crisis” U.S. Customs and Border Patrol agents have confronted since the agency was formed in 1924.

“This is the worst crisis the Border Patrol has ever faced in the history of the Border Patrol and we’re going back to 1924,” Judd told WMAL radio host Vince Coglianese.“In my 21-year career as a Border Patrol agent, I’ve never seen it like this and I’ve worked in the busiest locations. . . . In the history of the Border Patrol it’s never been like this before. This is the worst it’s ever been and if we don’t do something it’s going to continue to get worse.”

Either you choose to believe the lying libs in Congress or the actual Border Patrol agents on the ground.

It is pretty clear business elements in the Republican party favor the cheap immigrant labor/consumers and the Democrats pander to a voting block. So we go forward with this nonsense.

Sally Vix wrote:

Oh oh - Mueller investigators were cherry-picking e-mails to give a "nefarious" impression. Trouble in River City!

Ummmm . . . one would ALWAYS in EVERY CONCEIVABLE CASE under ANY POSSIBLE CIRCUMSTANCES make selective use of evidence (including emails).

And you think this is a bombshell revelation? WTF?

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Mueller ended his investigation having indicted ZERO Americans for colluding with Russia to influence the 2016 election. Then he proactively rejected that "members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government."

Get this through your thick TDS infected skulls.

Mueller never

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Just because there’s not enough evidence to indict doesn’t mean there’s zero evidence.

Also, early on I questioned the whole conspiracy thing. I’m not Flagpole.

Whatever you wanna call it the Trump Tower Meeting was shady and borderline illegal. What do you think they were talking about? Puppies.

Same with Manafort and polling data.

Same with Stone and Wikileaks.

It all rather stinks.

Ultimately I believe they all simply wanted to make a ton of money and increase the relevance of the Trump brand. That’s the whole reason he ran in the first place. He REALLY wants his Moscow Tower. His whole relationship with Russia is completely about doing business. He’s using the presidency to line his pocketbook.

So, we will all eventually see the whole report. It still won’t matter. It still won’t be a smoking gun. Notice his poll numbers after the Barr Summary? Haven’t moved. That’s telling. Those on the fence are off it. The swing voters have already made up their mind. Now it’s going to be a race of....as I’ve continued to say....TURN OUT. Even a rabid 40% will result in a Trump win IF they all show up to the polls.

Tick, tick, tick, tick....

The economy will start to buckle before 2020. Probably not a recession, but maybe just so/so numbers. Why? It’s just the natural cycle of things.

As I’ve predicted before...Trump will lose in a landslide. If Beto is the nominee he will lose TX.

My best guess:

He loses AZ, FL, NC, then of course PA, WI, MI. That would represent about a 3% shift as he won those states by about 3% or less. OH, even though he won by 8%, could also be a L because of the affects the tariffs have had.

Alan

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

I lived in McAllen, Texas for 11 years 1985-1996. The border was porous then and the crime coming across the border was a real problem. I had drug dealing outside my 10 year old daughter’s window one night. The neighbors were illegally importing the Roche date rape drug. Routinely vehicles were stolen by Mexican juveniles and driven back thru the border. If caught they as juveniles they had to be released. To believe this situation has improved since I left would be hard to believe.

Actually, to believe anything you post would be very hard to do.

I love when I agree with nate 'god' silver. Smartest guy in the country on politics, I think. Beto cannot be called a moderate in the same sense as amy or biden. He is too wide left on social issues for that. but on financial things he is more of a traditional moderate democrat.

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1113449736063848449

Obvi wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

I lived in McAllen, Texas for 11 years 1985-1996. The border was porous then and the crime coming across the border was a real problem. I had drug dealing outside my 10 year old daughter’s window one night. The neighbors were illegally importing the Roche date rape drug. Routinely vehicles were stolen by Mexican juveniles and driven back thru the border. If caught they as juveniles they had to be released. To believe this situation has improved since I left would be hard to believe.

Actually, to believe anything you post would be very hard to do.

Posted by the guy that is too much of a puss to use a registered handle.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

agip wrote:

numbers of people coming across the border have fallen dramatically since that time. You were at the peak - it's better now, yes.

LOL! What? Get out of fantasy land.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/29/us-mexico-border-immigration-chaoshttps://www.texastribune.org/2019/04/02/texas-senate-declares-border-migrant-surge-emergency/https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/border-patrol-struggles-keep-migrants-arriving-texas-n988531

Rigged,

Apprehensions were actually higher in the mid 2000s

That being said, what’s YOUR plan to confront the issue? Trump’s plan won’t work. Build a wall around the entire country and man it with military 24/7? That’s not going to prevent people from coming up to an agent or at a crossing and asking for asylum.

Can’t shut down the border. That would result in economic ruin.

Can’t just immediately turn then away, that would be against international law. Their asylum case must first be heard.

And so I’ve said before....more facility space so we don’t have families camping out under bridges. This can be done on BOTH sides of the border if we actually have a decent president who can do more than just issue warnings (then backpedal in those warnings). Then we need to speed up the process with more judges and reduce the decision making process.

Alan

E-verify required. Guest work permits allowed. No schooling, benefits, scantuary cities for those not following the law. Pretty simple really. Border structures in some spots, but internal laws and policies the long term answer.