Broader Issue wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Barr probably isn't lying. But he's not telling the whole story either.
Mueller will always remain a good soldier. And a good soldier doesn't buck the chain of command.
What is he not telling the whole story about? What evidence do you have of this?
This is the evidence: Barr's letter is 4 pages long. Mueller's report is hundreds of pages.
Barr didn't tell the whole story. That is a fact.
Hardloper wrote:
Sneaky Pete wrote:
I have a feeling you won't believe the Mueller Report if it is released or you won't believe Mueller if he testifies before Congress.
Yep, classic witch hunt logic. I say let them keep obsessing over Russia collusion. The more time Dems are preoccupied with a wild goose chase, the less time they have to come up with Green New Deals or do other serious damage
Without a Green New Deal, our earth will be the one doing the damage. That damage will be trillions of dollars of destruction and millions of extinguished lives.
And I am not exaggerating one bit.
Watching the Trump victory rally in Michigan. Fantastic stuff, a thing of beauty.
The next six years are gonna be a lot of fun.
agip wrote:
here's a list of around 20 things Trump did that are worse than anything the Clintons did.
but, hey law and order conservatives, by all means put party over country - it's what you do best.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/politics/trump-statements-of-financial-condition/?utm_term=.3a807824a2e4
It only took Dump 2 years to become much more hated than HRC could ever be, and we all know how long she was around for. Sure trumpers will call me biased but the reality is she pummeled him on the popular vote, and that’s with Putin helping him and the GOP trying to destroy her. He has another year and a half to continue destroying his chances, it would take some miraculous tailwind for him to keep his 46%.
Fat hurts wrote:
Hardloper wrote:
Yep, classic witch hunt logic. I say let them keep obsessing over Russia collusion. The more time Dems are preoccupied with a wild goose chase, the less time they have to come up with Green New Deals or do other serious damage
Without a Green New Deal, our earth will be the one doing the damage. That damage will be trillions of dollars of destruction and millions of extinguished lives.
And I am not exaggerating one bit.
With the Green New Deal, we'll squander trillions of dollars (in payments and suppressed economic growth), and it will have negligible impact on the climate.
The Green New Deal actually wants to decrease nuclear power, by far the most practical energy source, because it's "too risky," which is anti-scientific.
Trollminator wrote:
agip wrote:
here's a list of around 20 things Trump did that are worse than anything the Clintons did.
but, hey law and order conservatives, by all means put party over country - it's what you do best.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/politics/trump-statements-of-financial-condition/?utm_term=.3a807824a2e4It only took Dump 2 years to become much more hated than HRC could ever be, and we all know how long she was around for. Sure trumpers will call me biased but the reality is she pummeled him on the popular vote, and that’s with Putin helping him and the GOP trying to destroy her. He has another year and a half to continue destroying his chances, it would take some miraculous tailwind for him to keep his 46%.
And I’ve said before the demographics in 2020 are different than 2016 and so he will need more than 46%. If he keeps his %s the same across all demographics he will lose.
Alan
Hillary loving morons (Agip, flagpole, runningart, et al) still can’t accept the 2016 election results.
Democrats are disgusting pieces of trash who should be forced to publicly apologize to President Trump or be locked up.
Democrats lose again!!!
President Donald J Trump: "The Dems have a Choice to make, continue the Ridiculous BULLSHIT or apologize to the American people!!!"
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Outcome wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Incorrect. I have stated the whole time that as a rule of law person with complete trust in Mueller, that I will abide by his findings. Right now we don't know what those are because we haven't seen his report.
You people must lie a lot to think I would do such a thing. I will accept whatever findings Mueller has made.
Since Trump will not be indicted due to Mueller’s report, the rule of law has already been determined.
We haven't seen the Mueller Report. Also, I use "rule of law" broadly, to also mean political powers wielded by Congress. The DOJ guideline is that you can not indict a sitting president, so any punitive action has to be done by Congress, and Congress needs to see the entire Mueller Report to know if they need to act or not. I have long said Trump would be indicted (and he is still going to be), but I also said it would be most likely after he was out of office (don't make me prove you wrong by saying something ridiculous like I never said that). Again, if the Mueller Report exonerates him from colluding with Russia, I will accept that. Right now we only know how Barr views the 300+ page Mueller Report. We do not have the Mueller report. The sticking point is that there is a difference between having enough evidence to know beyond a reasonable doubt that he would be convicted and wherever the bar is with regard to articles of impeachment. I can't for an opinion about a report I have not yet read.
Depending on what the Mueller Report says, if the House Democrats then move forward with impeachment proceedings against Trump with regard to collusion (conspiracy), I will either be for it or against it. There is a much greater likelihood that I will be for action against Trump with regard to Obstruction, but right now that is just speculative as again, we haven't seen the Mueller Report yet.
It's time to re instate the house committee on un american activities to do a real investigation into Trump! Meuller should be investigated too!
Also, Mueller spoke publicly to rebuke buzzed when they published false stuff. He's a marine and a real man. If Barr mis represented his findings, don't you think he'd issue a statement to rebuke Barr?
Senator McCarthy wrote:
It's time to re instate the house committee on un american activities to do a real investigation into Trump! Meuller should be investigated too!
Also, Mueller spoke publicly to rebuke buzzed when they published false stuff. He's a marine and a real man. If Barr mis represented his findings, don't you think he'd issue a statement to rebuke Barr?
NO! I have explained this already...Mueller has always worked within a chain of command. Barr is his superior, even if Mueller is now off the case. He will not refute a superior UNLESS he is under oath. BuzzFeed was not within Mueller's chain of command.
We can go back and forth all day about whether Barr misrepresented Mueller's findings (something I have NOT said by the way), or we can all just take a look at the full Mueller Report and know for sure. I am for the latter.
Runningart2004 wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
It only took Dump 2 years to become much more hated than HRC could ever be, and we all know how long she was around for. Sure trumpers will call me biased but the reality is she pummeled him on the popular vote, and that’s with Putin helping him and the GOP trying to destroy her. He has another year and a half to continue destroying his chances, it would take some miraculous tailwind for him to keep his 46%.
And I’ve said before the demographics in 2020 are different than 2016 and so he will need more than 46%. If he keeps his %s the same across all demographics he will lose.
Alan
Agreed and I definitely don’t want to water down the strength of his hypnosis over his fans, so I don’t doubt he could hit close to same numbers again but it’s unlikely given his extreme shift to the right.
The border issue calmed a bit recently but I think this is going to blow over much more into 2020. I’m actually starting to believe trump and his Nazi-looking adviser have been fudging practices at the border and limiting resources there deliberately to amplify the problems in an effort to legitimize his emergency project. Not to mention the border is his favorite distractor.
I don’t think Barr would outright lie. Regarding collusion I believe Mueller’s report will point out gross negligence by trump and the typical “mob boss doesn’t anything” stance, with obvious intentional procurement of dirt on Hillary by his minions.
Regarding obstruction, the fact is Mueller refused to make a determination which means there is enough to support both sides of the argument but not enough to tip one way or the other. I think on this there will be some very damaging stuff in the report that Trump would hate to be floating out there.
All this did is empower loyal trumpers, but no democrat or independent is going to go over to his side because Mueller did not find enough cause to convict. While this probably strengthens his turnout, it’s a turnout from a pool that hasn’t grown but probably shrunk.
Fat hurts wrote:
Broader Issue wrote:
What is he not telling the whole story about? What evidence do you have of this?
This is the evidence: Barr's letter is 4 pages long. Mueller's report is hundreds of pages.
Barr didn't tell the whole story. That is a fact.
How long does the summation need to be before you believe it?
Hi Flagpole.
If true. Why no other indictments re: collusion?
Kushner has been in hot water for a while but that water is starting to boil now. One example - he goes to Quatar to strike a personal investment deal. They reject him because it’s a $hit real estate debt transaction. He throws a fit and decides to take advantage of the Saudi’s fight with Quatar and next thing you know the Quataris are treated badly at a gulf state summit and the Saudis send some troops to the border to fvck with them. Soon enough and of course mysteriously a Canadian bank strikes a deal with Kushner on the 5th ave property that’s been going down the toilet - with a splendid 99-yr lease and upfront payment, unheard of. He forced Quatar to come through.
now we see, that the propaganda people eaters, like the flagpoles will never absorb new info.
however, i see that a lot of people here see that trump won the nomination, won the presidency, won the mueller farce,
and will most probably win the next election.
naysayers, have been wrong, wrong, wrong, from the lagpoles to the cnns, to the tecks, to saturday nite live fools.
the general public is sick of the media, sick of tech, sick of social media.
there is a wide acceptance of the shadow government.
actually there are two major shadow factions, and they disagree exactly how to manage mankind.
one wants nazi style eugenics, total fascist control, chipping people = democrat and non-supporting trump republicans, environmental movement, teck, facebook, google, etc
the other one, major parts of pentagon, a large cluster of billionaires, factions of army, navy, marines, intelligence community, and weak forces like NRA, libertarians and so called right and some left that are really the good old left,
not venezuela type morons.
one faction wants humanity to weeded down to maybe a billion people serfs under total control.
the other faction wants "free market" in that mom and pop can shore up the needs of the economy, and the serfs
don't need to be killed, they can enjoy a decent wage and are mobile to the upper class. but make no mistake that the trump faction will stay firmly on top of the pyramid, they believe they will get richer under this "humanitarian" scheme.
and that they will go broke or will do poorly under the eugenics venezuella scheme,
these two main factions of the shadow governments, and there are others have been off the grid now for more than a century, underground, milking the resources, cash through their banks, cartels, everything big money.
and the planet is so wealthy, these super rich bums can take 90 percent and we're still rich.
but the nontrump faction wants it all.
these are the two factions.
one likes humans better than the other.
Hardloper wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Without a Green New Deal, our earth will be the one doing the damage. That damage will be trillions of dollars of destruction and millions of extinguished lives.
And I am not exaggerating one bit.
With the Green New Deal, we'll squander trillions of dollars (in payments and suppressed economic growth), and it will have negligible impact on the climate.
The Green New Deal actually wants to decrease nuclear power, by far the most practical energy source, because it's "too risky," which is anti-scientific.
Read the text.
The Green New Deal does not even mention nuclear power. And "risky" appears nowhere in the text.
Nuclear power is already being phased out because it is too expensive. Like most clean power advocates, I want to keep our current nuclear capacity going as long as we can. Also, we should invest in research for new, safer nuclear energy.
As for your fear of squandering trillions of dollars, you have no idea about that either. You are just making stuff up.
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