BTW, I'm a Clintonette Fan and still pissed she lost. Whew, it helps to get it that off my chest.
BTW, I'm a Clintonette Fan and still pissed she lost. Whew, it helps to get it that off my chest.
nontrumper wrote:
nontrumper wrote:
Sorry, I'm a tad riled up after the Mueller Report was a nothing burger. Sorry I used God's name in vain, very wrong thing to do. I guess Trump is truly better than even I thought. Again, I'm very sorry as I see Obama was worse regardless of anything that Donald has done. Carry on friends, and peace to all.
I don't believe in god, sorry.
Again, afraid to take a stab at the questions? Don't be afraid. Trumpers are all talk.
Shame upon me for not believing in God. May the Spirit be with me friend;) Seek him, don't wait. God is good.
nontrumper wrote:
nontrumper wrote:
Hey, you f*ckin one nut wonder, get your own god damn moniker.
You or any other Trumper, try answering these two questions I posed 15-20 pages ago:
1. If the Mueller Report is not damning to Trump/GOP, why isn't the GOP supporting it's full release (minus redacting obvious national security issues)?
2. Can you honestly say if all of this same information (and indictments) had happened to Obama, you'd think it was a nothing burger?
Your continued silence is deafening.
BTW, I'm a Clintonette Fan and still pissed she lost. Whew, it helps to get it that off my chest.
Actually, didn't vote for Clinton either. Care to take a stab at the questions? Scared of the truth?
I would think you'd love a full exoneration of Trump by a release of Mueller's report.
You don't believe in him, yet you use his name in your post, why? Don't hide from him, God is everywhere and he is surely real. Jesus died on the cross for all of us, including you. Don't waste his sacrifice by not believing.
nontrumper wrote:
nontrumper wrote:
BTW, I'm a Clintonette Fan and still pissed she lost. Whew, it helps to get it that off my chest.
Actually, didn't vote for Clinton either. Care to take a stab at the questions? Scared of the truth?
I would think you'd love a full exoneration of Trump by a release of Mueller's report.
I'm leaving to go running but I will surely answer your 2 questions the best that I can later this evening. Fair enough?
nontrumper wrote:
nontrumper wrote:
Sorry, I'm a tad riled up after the Mueller Report was a nothing burger. Sorry I used God's name in vain, very wrong thing to do. I guess Trump is truly better than even I thought. Again, I'm very sorry as I see Obama was worse regardless of anything that Donald has done. Carry on friends, and peace to all.
I don't believe in god, sorry.
Again, afraid to take a stab at the questions? Don't be afraid. Trumpers are all talk.
I will address the second question. If 2 years had been spent on investigating everything about Obama, it definitely would not have been a nothing burger. What he did with the IRS in targeting conservative groups is perhaps the most egregious abuse of presidential power ever. Having Loretta Lynch meet with Bill Clinton to clear Hillary of wrongdoing is also terribly troubling. Obama did many things that a "Robert Mueller" investigating him would not have come back with no indictments.
nontrumper wrote:
nontrumper wrote:
Hey, you f*ckin one nut wonder, get your own god damn moniker.
You or any other Trumper, try answering these two questions I posed 15-20 pages ago:
1. If the Mueller Report is not damning to Trump/GOP, why isn't the GOP supporting it's full release (minus redacting obvious national security issues)?
2. Can you honestly say if all of this same information (and indictments) had happened to Obama, you'd think it was a nothing burger?
Your continued silence is deafening.
You don't believe in him, yet you use his name in your post, why? Don't hide from him, God is everywhere and he is surely real. Jesus died on the cross for all of us, including you. Don't waste his sacrifice by not believing.
Sorry, did the church thing for 20 years, then gradually became a non-believer. You must not be a practicing Christian yourself, as Trump is the antithesis of Christ's teachings.
Sally Vix wrote:
I will address the second question. If 2 years had been spent on investigating everything about Obama, it definitely would not have been a nothing burger. What he did with the IRS in targeting conservative groups is perhaps the most egregious abuse of presidential power ever. Having Loretta Lynch meet with Bill Clinton to clear Hillary of wrongdoing is also terribly troubling. Obama did many things that a "Robert Mueller" investigating him would not have come back with no indictments.
Wow, just wow. So a Republican Congress that had a hard on for Obama just chose not to investigate his many "crimes?!" Do you understand the power of Congress to investigate? Search Clinton, Benghazi, emails.
Why not take a stab at the first question?
nontrumper wrote:
I'm leaving to go running but I will surely answer your 2 questions the best that I can later this evening. Fair enough?
Yep, fair enough.
I too hope Flagpole is getting the help he needs. It's good that he's taking a break from this board. By his own admission, he invested a lot of his life into this thread and the Trump/Russia saga.
Godspeed to you Flagpole. Take a break. Get better.
nontrumper wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
I will address the second question. If 2 years had been spent on investigating everything about Obama, it definitely would not have been a nothing burger. What he did with the IRS in targeting conservative groups is perhaps the most egregious abuse of presidential power ever. Having Loretta Lynch meet with Bill Clinton to clear Hillary of wrongdoing is also terribly troubling. Obama did many things that a "Robert Mueller" investigating him would not have come back with no indictments.
Wow, just wow. So a Republican Congress that had a hard on for Obama just chose not to investigate his many "crimes?!" Do you understand the power of Congress to investigate? Search Clinton, Benghazi, emails.
Why not take a stab at the first question?
On the first question, I fully think the entire report should be released Congress and to the public, minus the necessary redactions of course. I am not sure why McConnell is not supporting that.
Barr says the Mueller Report confirms that trump is in fact God & we should all bow down. Barr is God’s chosen representative & we should just trust him on that. Barr is not a weak, sell-out, traitor, no matter how much he seems to be. Only a good American would jump into the well-regarded & worldwide popular trump administration. God says no healthcare & we’re going to de-fund those uninspiring handicapped Olympics or whatever. We need more charter schools for parents who are too rich to be seen at public school, but too stupid to home-school. And we may do something for poor kids if we feel like it. Which is gonna win 2020 by the most ever, because we can’t count. Dream on, goober!
jesseriley wrote:
Barr says the Mueller Report confirms that trump is in fact God & we should all BEND OVER.
THIS is what Barr really meant.
White trash racist conservatives lose again
Facebook to ban white nationalism and separatism
Runningart2004 wrote:
So does anyone understand what Trump is trying to do with Obamacare when the vast majority of Americans and many in his party, including Pence, Barr and his HHS Sec are totally against him on this? You can’t just wipe it from the books without a sensible alternative as it’s connected to too much.
Alan
It’s the same as the wall, trying to deliver on a campaign promise and being confident that will help him. He ignored the fact that most Americans were not for building the wall and now he’s ignoring that most are against doing away with ACA. I hope he goes for it, another shot to the foot.
Kusami wrote:
I too hope Flagpole is getting the help he needs. It's good that he's taking a break from this board. By his own admission, he invested a lot of his life into this thread and the Trump/Russia saga.
Godspeed to you Flagpole. Take a break. Get better.
+1
Get well soon, flag.
Sally Vix wrote:
nontrumper wrote:
I don't believe in god, sorry.
Again, afraid to take a stab at the questions? Don't be afraid. Trumpers are all talk.
I will address the second question. If 2 years had been spent on investigating everything about Obama, it definitely would not have been a nothing burger. What he did with the IRS in targeting conservative groups is perhaps the most egregious abuse of presidential power ever. Having Loretta Lynch meet with Bill Clinton to clear Hillary of wrongdoing is also terribly troubling. Obama did many things that a "Robert Mueller" investigating him would not have come back with no indictments.
That’s progress Gary - just continue to be yourself
Sally Vix wrote:
nontrumper wrote:
Wow, just wow. So a Republican Congress that had a hard on for Obama just chose not to investigate his many "crimes?!" Do you understand the power of Congress to investigate? Search Clinton, Benghazi, emails.
Why not take a stab at the first question?
On the first question, I fully think the entire report should be released Congress and to the public, minus the necessary redactions of course. I am not sure why McConnell is not supporting that.
Take a wild guess why McConnel is not supporting it.
Trollminator wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
On the first question, I fully think the entire report should be released Congress and to the public, minus the necessary redactions of course. I am not sure why McConnell is not supporting that.
Take a wild guess why McConnel is not supporting it.
Because it would shed a negative light onto Trump and thus the GOP. Right now we have this nice black and white document that says NO COLLUUUUUSION. The full report would include the evidence, while not sufficient enough to indict and more importantly win a case against anyone (including sitting presidents) would be enough to use as political ammo. I’ve said before the federal government doesn’t commit unless they have you. They rarely lose. They’re not going to indict on a maybe and let the jury figure it out. The report would just be thrown on top of all of the other investigations going on to again be used as political kindling in 2020.
Alan
nontrumper (original :) wrote:
nontrumper wrote:
I'm leaving to go running but I will surely answer your 2 questions the best that I can later this evening. Fair enough?
Yep, fair enough.
Short version:
Question number 1, yes.
Question number 2, yes.
Long version, as for the report, I do hope it all comes out, I've got no problem with it, none at all.
As for Obama, Sally touched on it a bit. We really don't know everything that Obama did because he was not under the same scrutiny as Trump currently is. Does Trump deserve to be under more, maybe, maybe not. I can't answer that as I too am in the camp that none of us mean diddly squat or control zilch in D.C. We are all throwing around opinions on what we are fed, some of it is manure.
I do not think Obama was even close to being squeaky clean. As a bi-partisan politician put it on CNN of all stations in 2010, Obama inherited a mess but unfortunately he made things worse. Others were pissed because he changed his agenda. Is he the only President to do that, nope, not by a long shot. I would take Obama for 4 straight terms before I'd take Hillary Clinton for one. She did many mean nasty things to innocent people because of her power as First Lady (it's all on video with the actual names and real people talking, it's not BS).
My friend had his deductible for health insurance go from $1200 to $5000, believe it or not. Why? He helped to pay for Obamacare, something that Obama didn't mention (obviously he didn't write it himself and he freely admitted it, but he signed it).
So again, yes and yes. I understand that you want both and I can see your side. But I certainly do not believe every single criticism of Trump that is thrown around. Can you imagine the things that Bill Clinton said behind closed doors that wasn't on tape?
I hope you find God again. Peace Brother!
Is there a rule against attaching a helium balloon to yourself while running a road race?
How rare is it to run a sub 5 minute mile AND bench press 225?
Jakob Ingebrigtsen has a 1989 Ferrari 348 GTB and he's just put in paperwork to upgrade it
Am I living in the twilight zone? The Boston Marathon weather was terrible!
Move over Mark Coogan, Rojo and John Kellogg share their 3 favorite mile workouts
Mark Coogan says that if you could only do 3 workouts as a 1500m runner you should do these