Flagpole wrote:
Cohen testified that there are crimes Trump committed that he can't talk about because the SDNY is investigating them.
Was suspected that they were, but now we know for sure. Not a surprise to me.
That is not what Cohen said.
Flagpole wrote:
Cohen testified that there are crimes Trump committed that he can't talk about because the SDNY is investigating them.
Was suspected that they were, but now we know for sure. Not a surprise to me.
That is not what Cohen said.
I want the orange one to go down as much as anyone. However, this testimony so far is extremely embarrassing to trump, but in terms of showing/proving illegalities Cohen hasn’t done anything. Disappointing.
What it has also shown is that Congress is full of idiots.
Fat hurts wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Congress has never called someone to testify before Congress who PREVIOUSLY LIED TO CONGRESS!!! Lol. Their star witness has already lied to them before and now they are treating him like the most honest person ever. Oh, and yeah, Cohen has already admitted there was no Russian collusion. Sorry, Libs ... but the gig is up! You lost yet again!
You are wrong as usual.
Just off the top of my head, I can think of Oliver North. He came before congress and admitted that he had lied in previous testimony.
Lots and lots of liars have appeared multiple times before congress. And you can bet that they lied in each appearance.
This might be the first time a person convicted of lying to congress has appeared. You would need to do a lot of research to know for sure.
It really doesn't matter anyway. We have never had a mob boss as the President of the US. If we could only interview or take testimony from people who aren't criminal, we can't talk to just about anyone involved with Trump or even Trump himself. You commonly have to get testimony from unsavory people to catch other unsavory people.
Not what he said wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Cohen testified that there are crimes Trump committed that he can't talk about because the SDNY is investigating them.
Was suspected that they were, but now we know for sure. Not a surprise to me.
That is not what Cohen said.
Yes it is.
Sally Vix wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Sally Vix,
You continue to show that you do not know enough about these investigations into Trump to be making any comments. You should be asking questions only or staying silent. You are way out of your depth on this subject.
In the last two days, you showed no knowledge that anyone close to Trump has attacked Cohen, and just now you stated that Cohen said there was no collusion when that is not what he said, and you clearly didn't know of his recent interview where he talked about not having proof but had suspicions.
You can have opinions based on knowledge, but your opinions are based on a big lacking of knowledge.
Again, you should ask questions for the purpose of your own edification, or you should stay silent, because you really don't know enough to be making declarations.
Flagpole, I know a heck of a lot about everything than you do. I am not the wild-assed partisan that you are. I am not a Trumper. I do respect the office of the presidency and I do resent you nutjob Liberals trying to reverse the election. I get it - you live in some rural town in Ohio. Maybe don't even have a bathroom inside the house. I get all that. You have no credibility Flagpole. None whatsoever. You are not even educated it seems. I see a surfeit of grammar mistakes from you all the time. I made one type "dumbe" the other day and you went crazy about it. Again, you maybe are not the most sophisticated person on here but I do kind of respect your views when they are not wildly partisan. Maybe you never had the advantage of getting a good education. But, since you "own" a company and are at home all day, maybe spend some time studying english and grammar. I don't hold your lack of education against you. But, you still have time to improve yourself.
There's a new one! I don't have a bathroom inside the house!
You keep making statements about this investigation that are just flat wrong and show ignorance. You need some learnin' lady dude.
BREAKING!
Republican Matt Gaetz is now under investigation by Florida Bar over Cohen intimidation tweet!
If rules have been violated, The Florida Bar will vigorously pursue appropriate discipline by the Florida Supreme Court. The Florida Bar takes its responsibility of regulating lawyer conduct very seriously.
Flagpole wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Flagpole, I know a heck of a lot about everything than you do. I am not the wild-assed partisan that you are. I am not a Trumper. I do respect the office of the presidency and I do resent you nutjob Liberals trying to reverse the election. I get it - you live in some rural town in Ohio. Maybe don't even have a bathroom inside the house. I get all that. You have no credibility Flagpole. None whatsoever. You are not even educated it seems. I see a surfeit of grammar mistakes from you all the time. I made one type "dumbe" the other day and you went crazy about it. Again, you maybe are not the most sophisticated person on here but I do kind of respect your views when they are not wildly partisan. Maybe you never had the advantage of getting a good education. But, since you "own" a company and are at home all day, maybe spend some time studying english and grammar. I don't hold your lack of education against you. But, you still have time to improve yourself.
There's a new one! I don't have a bathroom inside the house!
You keep making statements about this investigation that are just flat wrong and show ignorance. You need some learnin' lady dude.
Flagpole ... I still love ya! We can just agree to disagree!
Cohen shows a lot, but the financial stuff is particularly a goldmine & there’s a long paper trail. Trump can’t stop them from getting all his financial records, and he’s always known he’s vulnerable there. There is a time-consuming process to get them legally & in full, however.
jesseriley wrote:
Cohen shows a lot, but the financial stuff is particularly a goldmine & there’s a long paper trail. Trump can’t stop them from getting all his financial records, and he’s always known he’s vulnerable there. There is a time-consuming process to get them legally & in full, however.
Yep. The racist stuff and the catch and kill stuff (other than the fact there might be money laundering there) is not really that interesting or important. It's the financial crimes. The fact he said Trump knew of Stone's conversations with Assange is interesting too, but there are some questions there about the timing of it all. Stone is also a conman, so it's unclear if Stone was just trying to appear a big shot to Trump. Mueller and/or other offices will get to the bottom of that.
Sally Vix wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Flagpole ... I still love ya! We can just agree to disagree!
What a strange thing for a dude with a wife to say to a man.
Flagpole wrote:
jesseriley wrote:
Cohen shows a lot, but the financial stuff is particularly a goldmine & there’s a long paper trail. Trump can’t stop them from getting all his financial records, and he’s always known he’s vulnerable there. There is a time-consuming process to get them legally & in full, however.
Yep. The racist stuff and the catch and kill stuff (other than the fact there might be money laundering there) is not really that interesting or important. It's the financial crimes. The fact he said Trump knew of Stone's conversations with Assange is interesting too, but there are some questions there about the timing of it all. Stone is also a conman, so it's unclear if Stone was just trying to appear a big shot to Trump. Mueller and/or other offices will get to the bottom of that.
Our intelligence agencies say that Cohen’s comments on Assange are incorrect.
Putin & trump have gotten pretty intimate, too.
FL Bar wrote:
BREAKING!
Republican Matt Gaetz is now under investigation by Florida Bar over Cohen intimidation tweet!
If rules have been violated, The Florida Bar will vigorously pursue appropriate discipline by the Florida Supreme Court. The Florida Bar takes its responsibility of regulating lawyer conduct very seriously.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/matt-gaetz-under-investigation-by-florida-state-bar-over-michael-cohen-threat
Meh. That’s what they do. ABA went after Kavanaugh as well. Nothingburger.
Broker wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Yep. The racist stuff and the catch and kill stuff (other than the fact there might be money laundering there) is not really that interesting or important. It's the financial crimes. The fact he said Trump knew of Stone's conversations with Assange is interesting too, but there are some questions there about the timing of it all. Stone is also a conman, so it's unclear if Stone was just trying to appear a big shot to Trump. Mueller and/or other offices will get to the bottom of that.
Our intelligence agencies say that Cohen’s comments on Assange are incorrect.
You mean those intelligence agencies Trump and his minions cry are the Deep State?
Sally Vix wrote:
Congress has never called someone to testify before Congress who PREVIOUSLY LIED TO CONGRESS!!! Lol. Their star witness has already lied to them before and now they are treating him like the most honest person ever. Oh, and yeah, Cohen has already admitted there was no Russian collusion. Sorry, Libs ... but the gig is up! You lost yet again!
wrong again, man. Rs get a lot of facts wrong.
Eliot Abrams lied to congress, was found guilty of it, and recently was invited back.
You gotta get out of the right wing news bubble.
Elliott Abrams, President Donald Trump’s special envoy for Venezuela, appeared before the House Committee on Foreign Relations on Wednesday.
About two hours into the hearing, committee member Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., noted that Abrams pleaded guilty in 1991 to withholding information about the Iran-Contra affair from Congress. “I fail to understand,” Omar said, “why members of this committee or the American people should find any testimony that you give today to be truthful.”
Omar’s skepticism was well-founded: Just moments later, Abrams told her several egregious lies.
https://theintercept.com/2019/02/14/ilhan-omar-elliott-abrams-hearing/Sandman wrote:
I want the orange one to go down as much as anyone. However, this testimony so far is extremely embarrassing to trump, but in terms of showing/proving illegalities Cohen hasn’t done anything. Disappointing.
What it has also shown is that Congress is full of idiots.
Well...checks and a copy of the wire transfer combined with the info from Alan Weisselberg is likely going to be enough to prove the FELONY campaign finance violations. Rhona Graff is privy also. Also, it appears Trump's lawyers changed Cohen's original congressional testimony...that is suborning perjury.
There is no way to look at this that makes this good for Trump, and things have only gotten worse for him today.
By the way, anyone reading this who believes they know anything about this topic who has to look up who Rhona Graff is, really doesn't know much.
Futbol wrote:
FL Bar wrote:
BREAKING!
Republican Matt Gaetz is now under investigation by Florida Bar over Cohen intimidation tweet!
If rules have been violated, The Florida Bar will vigorously pursue appropriate discipline by the Florida Supreme Court. The Florida Bar takes its responsibility of regulating lawyer conduct very seriously.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/matt-gaetz-under-investigation-by-florida-state-bar-over-michael-cohen-threatMeh. That’s what they do. ABA went after Kavanaugh as well. Nothingburger.
You do not know the difference between the ABA and the Florida Bar.
Sally Vix wrote:
Flagpole, I know a heck of a lot about everything than you do. I am not the wild-assed partisan that you are. I am not a Trumper. I do respect the office of the presidency and I do resent you nutjob Liberals trying to reverse the election. I get it - you live in some rural town in Ohio. Maybe don't even have a bathroom inside the house. I get all that. You have no credibility Flagpole. None whatsoever. You are not even educated it seems. I see a surfeit of grammar mistakes from you all the time. I made one type "dumbe" the other day and you went crazy about it. Again, you maybe are not the most sophisticated person on here but I do kind of respect your views when they are not wildly partisan. Maybe you never had the advantage of getting a good education. But, since you "own" a company and are at home all day, maybe spend some time studying english and grammar. I don't hold your lack of education against you. But, you still have time to improve yourself.
Embarrassing.
FL Bar wrote:
BREAKING!
Republican Matt Gaetz is now under investigation by Florida Bar over Cohen intimidation tweet!
If rules have been violated, The Florida Bar will vigorously pursue appropriate discipline by the Florida Supreme Court. The Florida Bar takes its responsibility of regulating lawyer conduct very seriously.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/matt-gaetz-under-investigation-by-florida-state-bar-over-michael-cohen-threat
Washington, DC’s attorney general has subpoenaed Donald Trump’s inaugural committee
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/27/us/politics/trump-inaugural-committee.htmlBroker wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Yep. The racist stuff and the catch and kill stuff (other than the fact there might be money laundering there) is not really that interesting or important. It's the financial crimes. The fact he said Trump knew of Stone's conversations with Assange is interesting too, but there are some questions there about the timing of it all. Stone is also a conman, so it's unclear if Stone was just trying to appear a big shot to Trump. Mueller and/or other offices will get to the bottom of that.
Our intelligence agencies say that Cohen’s comments on Assange are incorrect.
Exactly to what are you referring? Got a link to share or more info to give there?
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